Forum at the Democratic Daily

[kerrygoddess]

I set up a new forum at the Democratic Daily with a private Kerry Forum that can not be accessed by search engines or anyone but members of the Kerry Group. This will provide a safe environment to discuss things that we don't want others to see!

The login is here - http://forum.thedemocraticdaily.com/index.php

Edited to add: It would be most helpful if DU users can identify themselves in their profiles so I can vet everyone into the private group!

[ginnyinWI]

1. I just registered

I used the same username that I use in this group--is that enough, or what should I do?

[kerrygoddess]

2. Perfect!

It will be easier to get everyone into the private area that way!

[beachmom]

4. My login worked, KG. Thanks!

[fedupinBushcountry]

6. Mine won't work

what am I doing wrong?

[kerrygoddess]

14. Try iy now ! N/T

[fedupinBushcountry]

15. Thanks, KG

I'm in. :thumbsup:

[emulatorloo]

3. me too - emulatorloo!

thanks for setting this up. . .

[karynnj]

7. Me too - except I spelled my first name normally -

[DoBotherMe]

5. DanaM registered

this is great!

[ProSense]

8. Cool! n/t

[europegirl4jfk]

9. I registered with my DU name n/t

[paulk]

10. just registered

same user name

[LeftyLizzie]

11. I registered

but under a different name - ElizHoya. I'm tired of this LeftyLizzie business - I'm thinking of changing my name here, too.

[kerrygoddess]

12. So far I think I am getting everyone into the private group

PM through that forum if you can't into the Kerry group.

[babylonsister]

13. I'm registered, too, w/this DU name. nt

[Inuca]

16. Hi everybody!

Never posted before, but have been following for roughly a year, and I am sure you can all figure out what brought me in search of such forums a bit more than a year ago. I just donated to DU so I can post here, and ask if it is OK (and/or possible) to get into the private forum. I would like to get an OK from an "old timer" in the forum before even attempting to register there, I do not like to intrude :) .

[fedupinBushcountry]

18. WELCOME ABOARD !!!

:patriot:

As you know this is a great forum, am glad that you posted.

[Inuca]

25. Thanks!

Been tempted to do it many times before, but somehow the moment was never "right". Looking forward to pleasant and hopefully also useful chats with you all.

[wisteria]

52. Welcome!! n/t

[WildEyedLiberal]

17. This is a good idea, but

I'm really not comfortable talking about what JK said on a web forum, even a private one. It's still too insecure and there's really no ironclad way to determine who on DU is trustworthy and who is not. I remember the MCM saga all too well. JK trusted us enough to confide in us, and I just can't break that, or go into the details of what he said - not over the internet like this. I'm very uncomfortable with this idea because it's too easily circumvented by someone with their own agenda.

[LeftyLizzie]

19. Yeah, but . . .

there are also some of us who couldn't be there who don't have agendas and who just really want to help out.

[Kerry fan]

20. Agree with you, Wild.

[Mass]

21. I understand your point, but in this case, you cant really share anything

he said with any of those who were not there.

What KG proposes (as long as she only accepts people she knows well or who are vetted by somebody she knows well) is the safest simple form we can have.

Anyway, I hope you can fill us with those parts that you think can be said here. We want all the details.

[Kerry fan]

23. Sure, I, too, would like every detail.

But not at the risk of jeopordizing anything that needs to be kept under radar.

I sat here reading the accounts of the Boston party and I can't stop crying. I so strongly wanted JK for president, that I cried constantly for 3 days after the election, and even more so when it bacame more and more obvious that it was stolen, again.

If there is the slimmest chance of his being president in 08, don't take any chances with confidential info, please.

I am elderly and disabled and can't do a whole lot to help, but I donate money to JK whenever I can and sign all the petitions.

[WildEyedLiberal]

35. Bless your heart.

I wish you had said something earlier! We would've put in a word for you to JK. You can't even IMAGINE how sweet and warm and genuine he is. That is a man who has nothing but good in his soul.

[fedupinBushcountry]

22. I can see your concern

but trust me KG has been around for a long time and I am assured that only true blue Kerry supporters will be allowed to join. Being a mod on the JK blog, I can see where you are coming from, and there should be complete trust in this idea. To me this is the safest way to discuss and those joining mainly are either from this forum, most that post at DemDaily also post here. To me it is better in a private forum than e-mailing, or a Yahoo group, which I was also on with other JK mods, but we did get invaded a few times, you should never post from a work computer or any other public computer which are very easy to access info.

But a good dicussion on this is a good idea.

Just my 2 cents.

[kerrygoddess]

26. Thanks FUIBC

Incase anyone here does not know I was the first mod (and a writer)on the K Blog and a mod on the K Forum.

A private forum is safer than an email list or a yahoo group.

[kerrygoddess]

24. A private forum is safe -

We had them on the Kerry forum. Most everyone who has been in here for sometime, knows my longterm connections. I'm cautiously adding members to the private forum and I've been around long enough to know who is safe.

But hey, if you don't want to trust me, that's fine and dandy with me - I set up the private forum to be helpful to all of the Kerry supporters.

[Kerry fan]

28. KG, I trust you.

I am computer illiterate, so am sure you know better than I. Just, please be very careful with confidential information.

[Mass]

29. A private forum where you are vetting people is very fine for me

You have been blogging for Kerry for long enough now that we can be sure you have his interests at heart.

[WildEyedLiberal]

32. Geez, it's not about trusting you

I think I made clear that it was the concept of a forum in general that made me uneasy, not you or anyone specific. I know you are a true Kerry supporter, but it's not you I'm worried about. The RNC PAYS people to do shit like this, and they're good at it. They're literally professionals at deception and lies. Basically I guess I agree with what Mass said. A private forum may be a good place to discuss general strategy, but obviously we can't reveal things that were said to us in confidence.

[Mass]

33. So dont tell them, that's fine.

[politicasista]

42. Could you pm us through the KG's forum?

Sorry, I am new at this. :shrug:

[kerrygoddess]

44. Here's the point

There are things I can't share here because it's publicly accessed. What I set up is not. Only members who have been vetted through me can see, read, or post in the John Kerry forum on the Dem Daily. No one else can.

I'm doing this to be helpful and it should be obvious.

[emulatorloo]

51. thank you again KG - I appreciate what you are doing n/t

[LittleClarkie]

57. Thanks for doing this. OH, I get it now!!

I was just about to suggest what I just suddenly realized you actually did. The Kerry forum is hidden until you give us approval. I didn't get it until just now. Thanks!

I didn't get the idea because, since I'm not vetted yet, it's still hidden.

[Inuca]

38. To KG

KG, please let me know of there is a way to access on your forum though I only started posting here today. I would be more than willing to email you any information you may want, if you think it would help. I am fully aware that my request may seem suspicious, and no hard feelings (of course) whatsoever if the answer is NO. I can wait, if need be... The problem is that I am not very talkative by nature, so it may take a while until I can build long enough a posting history. Well, we'll see.... Thanks in any case, and just thanks for being around, KG & all.

[kerrygoddess]

46. PM me

Your info!

[Inuca]

49. Embarrassed :-(

How do I PM you?? To further my embarrassment, I am not even sure what it stands for, though I did see it used (the acronym, that is) quite often.

[europegirl4jfk]

41. I often forget how public this place here on DU is

because the Kerry group feels so "home". And then I'm stunned when sometimes people come in and bash Kerry or attack his supporters. I think a private forum is a good idea, not only for the Boston talk and other political ideas but also for more private stuff about us. I never feel really comfortable to post personal things on a public forum and a private place sounds much better for this too.

[ProSense]

27. I agree completely!

I think it's great to create more forums to discuss JK, but they are not viable if you're trying to be discreet. I participated in the original JK forum and WEL is right about how unsavory people infiltrate them. I think if details beyond the level that have been shared here are to be shared it should be in private, through personal e-mail and only if comfortable.

[Mass]

31. we are talking about a private forum, not visible by those who are not

allowed (neither readable nor writable) and whose users are vetted by people that have Kerry's interests at heart.

[ProSense]

34. I defer...

since I'm no expert, but I certainly don't want anything compromised.

[Inuca]

43. I am not at all familiar

with the specific software and security features used for private forums, but I know enough about computers to know that everything is hackable. It's a fact of electronic life, so the chances of being hacked (usually pretty slim if enough security measures are taken) have to be weighted against the benefits of being able to share.

[karynnj]

39. I do understand your concern

(though I'm dying to hear) The old cartoom of a dog typing, saying "on the internet, no one knows I'm a dog" is famous. The hard thing is how anyone proves they are real. I'm glad that Pamela who has some practice in this has taken on the task, but I understand the reluctant you might have of inadvertently being a source for repeating anything that Senator Kerry might want to keep private.

I'm glad for all of you that this trip went so incredibly well. It's always scary to meet a public figure you really respect - as the expectations can be so high that they can't be met. Senator and Teresa Kerry seem to always beat even the highest preconceived views anyone has of them. I love that almost every story I've ever heard of people actually meeting them is filled with positive comments. I just wish they were in the White House REALLY resoring dignity (as well as grace, charm and hope).

[kerrygoddess]

69. Keeping things private

Maybe no one should have said there is so much to share with everyone? I don't know. If I were there I would have certainly been a part of the "meeting" last night. So I'm stumped by all of this.

[jillan]

65. This is sooooo frickin hard!

You know 'stuff'. Not only do you know stuff, you know secret stuff, you know Kerry stuff...

and I think I speak for the rest of us when I say

I WANNA KNOW TOO

but I will continue to wonder out of respect for JK...sigh!

[Firespirit]

77. I'm with you on this.

JK and his people didn't intend for anything they said to be posted on the internet. He was open and casual with us in part because we didn't have any recording equipment, didn't take notes on what he said, etc., and I think it would be a betrayal of trust to put the conversation, in whole or part, online. This is exactly like the Mark Crispin Miller thing -- a casual, private, off the record conversation that got twisted around to something else. The only real difference is that nobody here is attempting to sell a book with it.

The most important factor here is that we do not have John's permission to repeat what he said. It isn't intended as an affront to anyone here or to question their loyalty or sincerity, not at all.... Neither John nor anyone affiliated with him suggested that the members of this forum who couldn't attend are untrustworthy, quite the opposite in fact. But the thing is, we don't have his permission to repeat his words.

Certainly nobody can stop Kerry supporters from setting up private web forums for those of like minds. But I think it would be disrespectful to John for us to go to anyone's forum without his consent and repeat our recollections of his words. It's not that he wouldn't have talked to the folks that couldn't make it, but now whatever anyone heard would be secondhand and not from Kerry himself -- yet it would still be attributed to him.

If anyone else here has contacts in his offices, then it's their own affair what they choose to say. But we can't just "assume it's okay" to repeat what was said in a casual conversation with him. I wouldn't want it done to me if I were in his shoes.

[kerrygoddess]

78. Well evidently it's not anything to help bloggers

As was reported here intially.

Of course having spoken with John on numerous occassions myself and John knowing full well that I am a blogger, he knew full well that I would share what was said with bloggers so that other bloggers would know. That's what the blogosphere is about. Informing each other.

So we all understand some sort of "strategy" was planned and that's grand but other Kerry Bloggers should know too so that we can all be effective. of course I could just keep things to myself from now on too, couldn't I.

This is all a rather petty and ridiculous way to act when someone was trying to helpful! Maybe someone with contacts on his offices should let them know that the "representatives" from the blogosphere there last night aren't willing to work with others.

[ProSense]

81. There are valid points being made

assuming there were statements that were intended for public distribution, i.e, Kerry and others indicated to the bloggers that the comment should be made public.

I think patience is in order to let those who did attend determine what they are willing or even obligated to share.


Everyone here is doing a wonderful job supporting Kerry and I hope we don't lose sight of that fact.

[politicasista]

82. Well said ProSense

I also think everyone is tired from all the excitement. Although I would like to know what the happenings were, I too can understand caution on "private" 411.

"Everyone here is doing a wonderful job supporting Kerry and I hope we don't lose sight of that fact."

I echo that thought too.

[kerrygoddess]

84. There are also some cheesey insinuations being made

And some of us have been around and in the loop long enough to know that a safe forum is the place to share things. We get a lot more accomplished when we work together.

JK expects and knows things are shared among bloggers - he's been in the puplic eye long enough to know and he knew who most of his loyal bloggers were during the campaign. They came to events, they traveled across the country to work for him as volunteers, they posted daily on his blog, they knew all the talking points, they were trusted by staffers. And FYI there are plently of bloggers that still are.

You make a big mistake when you lump trusted Kerry blogers and supporters in with the MCM's of the blogosphere.

[WildEyedLiberal]

86. There's also lots of trumped up outrage going on

This wasn't any grand strategy we're talking about. People are in a fuss over casual, off the cuff comments that simply aren't going to really be relevant to anything outside of the original atmosphere. He was very frank and candid about things and he even said once or twice "make sure this doesn't go any farther." You know, maybe I respect that - respect him - and I don't want to post those comments on the web, "secret" forum or no. Again, they were casual and off the cuff, not the result of any deep strategizing. Basically, you're just acting very bitter, which is sad. Trust me when I say you're not missing out on any nugget of jeweled wisdom. If you want to throw blame around, blame the original thread that perhaps gave the pub conversation a glamorous aura of intrigue it didn't deserve. But quite frankly you're just being petulant now, insinuating that those of us who went to Boston didn't deserve it because we haven't been bloggers as long as you. I find that attitude rather insulting and rather resent your implication that you're somehow more valuable or loyal to him because you toss out sources and have been around a while. I respect your blog, but you are way over the top with this one.

[ProSense]

90. Good point

But there is also a matter of rumor control. It's not an indictment of the blog world. Second hand information contributes to the rumor mill. Which is why I say it's up to the person who was there to determine how comfortable they are with repeating what was said. Once it's out there accurate or not, it's attributed to Kerry.

[Firespirit]

88. Why don't you ask him?

You can tell your connections that the "representatives of the blogosphere" are not going to divulge an off-the-record casual conversation on the internet because they don't have permission to do so. If you're in tight as you say, then you wouldn't have any difficulty finding out what was said, and perhaps you could obtain permission to spread it far and wide on the "blogosphere." There are two groups of people who know what was said, us and the Kerry people. You could ask them just as well as us if you have connections.

BTW the accusation of "petty and ridiculous" rings hollow when you threaten to call up staffers and lodge vacuous complaints against people for not repeating things that they didn't have permission to repeat.

[ProSense]

79. You are absolutely right

An off the record conversation should not be put on the record without consent. If JK had said: here is what I want to tell the bloggers...then fine. Since this appears to been an evening of casual discussion, I assume most of what was said was off the record. It's not unusual for someone to repeat portions of such conversations in casual conversations with another friend and confidante, but unless certain about the friends ability to be discreet, the potential for rumors to surface increases.

Only those who were there would know if any of the comments were intended for the record, again those with a "here is what I want people to know" qualifier.

[kerrygoddess]

80. Astounding the insinuations here

Absolutely astounding.

[saracat]

83. What I find amazing is that anyone would think Senator Kerry would

consider any such "Bloggers" no matter how devoted fans they may be, as confidants. I am sorry. I just don't think he would confide anything to people he perceives as "bloggers" that he did NOT want shared with the bloggershere, especially his own bloggersphere. I thought the fact that he was not a stupid man was one of the things we all admired about him. Confiding strategy to strangers he has just met would NOT have been a mark of great political acumen. And Kerry is a very circumspect politico. He would certainly not discuss "sensitive strategy in a public bar with people he has just met. So I doubt very much that there is anything that has to be kept that close to the vest.
And another thing, for those that might not know,politicians like the Senator do not have "off the record " conversations with strangers.That is another reason the Mark Crispin Miller story is known to be manipulated.

[ProSense]

85. You are right

But the discussion here is around what was said and what should be repeated. What I said applies in any private conversation. Just because Kerry is a senator doesn't mean his casual conversations in a private setting need to be broadcast. The idea that those who attended are obligated to repeat his remarks in a public forum, second hand information attributed to Kerry, is exactly how rumors get started.

[WildEyedLiberal]

89. Thank you ProSense

That's all I've been trying to say. It's not about trying to exclude anyone and I'm sorry some are getting that impression.

[WildEyedLiberal]

87. That's just it

It wasn't deep, intense strategy. It was off the cuff bar bantering in a completely casual atmosphere. I don't really see what purpose it would serve to reproduce such comments which, while highly candid and entertaining, don't really contain any advice or lessons for "bloggers." Really, this is a whole big ado over nothing. And yes, he told us not to repeat some of the things he said. I will respect that. It's really not a very big deal at all.

[karynnj]

92. If he said something should not be repeated, it shouldn't be

repeated simply out of respect for him. There is however value in having a private space where no one in looking over our shoulder. The problem with repeating something that is clearly private on ANY board is that you have to count on everyone there not inadverently (or intentionally) repeating it. Clearly whatever was said by John and Teresa made a group of very pro-Kerry people love them more they did or thought possible before.

[kerrygoddess]

93. amazing

how stories change.

[Fabio]

96. I agree. Dont break confidence.

Its a recipe for disaster.

[Goldeneye]

30. I registered earlier as Tricia.

[kerrygoddess]

36. Thanks!

Will put you on through! I was not sure who you were.

[Goldeneye]

37. Thanks KG.

:hi:

[politicasista]

40. Hey KG,

I know everyone knows me as politicasista here, but I think I will register as Indie Liberal (KG and Mass know it's my name at thedemocraticdaily). Don't trust public computers all that much so I will sign up as soon as I get home. :hi:

[jenndar]

45. Registered with this username n/t

[kerrygoddess]

47. To everyone who registered -

Have it! Discuss at will. I tried to be helpful - not cause a stir. We're all on the same team.

We discussed an email list some time ago and that never happened. This is a safer environment than an email list. I'm not by any means suggesting anyone use the new forum as this forum is used, but solely as safe environment to discuss things that should not be discussed here.

[karynnj]

48. Thank you so much for doing it - and doing it so quickly

It should be really nice. I've loved the discussions here, but do realize that what we say can be viewed by anyone. I love your blog.

[kerrygoddess]

50. Thanks -

I hope everyone will utilize it, because I think it's important to have place for all Kerry supporters (all around the blogosphere) to talk without worrying. There's a lot of dedicated supporters out there who don't come into this forum and would be a shame for any to be left out of the loop.

One longtime blogger was there last night and was left out of the loop.

[rosesaylavee]

53. I am logged in there but

have no idea what to do next??? Looks fairly quiet. Good choice KG!

[kerrygoddess]

56. Looks like you found your way... N/T

[kttmmom]

54. I think I signed up

but now I don't know where to go? (I mainly lurk so don't have many posts here. I also posted a little under par4kerry on the johnkerry.com site during the campaign)

[jillan]

55. Just signed up, same name

I don't know about the rest of you, but I am dying to know what was discussed.

[seito]

58. I registered

I used the same user name.

[Klimmer]

59. Just signed-up with my same name . . .

KG, I hope you will allow me into the inner circle. I'm very loyal to JK whom I consider my true President.

At about 100' diving in the ocean my blood runs blue. Well, ok everyone's does, but my is really, really blue (attempt at humor).

I'm very interested in hearing all the stories, and helping JK anyway I can.

[Pirate Smile]

60. I registered with my same user name.

I can't wait to see everybody's pictures too.

[politicasista]

62. Hi Pirate Smile!

:hi:

[Pirate Smile]

63. Hi,

I just read about your Rosa Parks and Jackie Robinson comments on the card and wanted to tell you what a wonderful thing to point out.

:hi:

[politicasista]

64. Thanks!

I am glad he liked the Thank You too. :patriot:

[YvonneCa]

61. Me, too!

I'm registered with the same name...thanks, kerrygoddess!:patriot:

[hobgoblin]

66. Registered

I registered as jgt7. I read this forum all the time, just rarely post. Shy retiring type, I guess. Welcome to all the newbies. I love reading all the great informative posts on this form. Best way to keep abreast of my hero!

[politicasista]

100. Hi hobgoblin!

Welcome. :hi:

[politicasista]

67. Just registered!

As Indie Liberal. Change is good. Thanks KG! :)

[StoryTeller]

68. I registered...

...using "StoryTeller" as my user name, but I'm not sure I've been around long enough to be properly vetted. So whatever KG and the rest decide will be fine. I've been in enough different types of internet forums and email loops to know the importance of establishing credibility and trust, so have at. :)

[kerrygoddess]

70. To vet or not to vet

I have vetted through everyone who's names I recognize. Hopefully I have not left out any of the longtime active members of this group.

I know there has been some newbies here asking to be vetted. Anyone who has not been active here over the last months will have to wait, I'm afraid. It's nothing personal. I hope everyone understands. People can PM with their concerns or email me through my blog.

Edited to add: I'm glad so many enthusiastically signed on to the new forum. I've spent the better part of over 2 1/2 (close to 3 now) years working to share Kerry news around the internet, on blogs, forums and yahoo groups. Many here who were regulars on the Kerry Blog or Forum felt a huge loss when it was gone - including myself. I'd like to see everyone who wants to help JK work toether for the common cause and have a place to do so where things can be discussed with out concern.

[StoryTeller]

71. As one of the said newbies, I understand.

Just one little request-- please, everyone, stay active on this forum, too, and don't let it become a ghost town, or else I will be really, really disappointed. :)

[WildEyedLiberal]

72. This forum isn't going anywhere.

Part of what we do that's so important is being a positive force for Kerry in the blogosphere, and there's a lot of education that needs to be done on DU and elsewhere. Being a Kerrycrat is a tiring job, but one that's well worth it. :)

[politicasista]

73. I hope it doesn't.

It is growing by leaps and bounds.

On edit: WEL: I went back and reread your post, and I understand now where you are coming from. :hi:

[kerrygoddess]

74. As I get to know newbies

I'm glad to add them. And the intent was not at all to replace this forum but just to create a safe place where things that can't be discussed here can be discussed.

[wisteria]

75. I Will certainly remain here too. We have to continue fighting the

forces of evil that lurk here on the other forums.

[kerrygoddess]

76. LOL!

Absolutely! All the Kerry people here do great things.

[Dr Ron]

95. Different Purposes

The point of a private forum is for things which we wouldn't want everyone and anyone to read.

For example, as we get closer to 2008 primaries there might be more negative discussion of opponents which might not be appropriate for DU. After all--only Kerry and Hillary bashing is officially allowed (with the second of the two being appropriate). :)

There might also be issues of strategy which we might want to limit viewing to. Obviously the campaign isn't going to reveal top secret info to such a group as nothing is totally secure, but there could be discussion which might best be kept limited (even if not guaranteed secret) which isn't easily available to everyone and anyone.

[kerrygoddess]

97. Expereince with private forum

Dr Ron

While you and I have experience with private forums and and how they work, only a few others here do. Only members who are granted "permissions" to the private forum can see the "private" forum when they enter it and are logged in. Those who were actively involved in the K Blog and Forum during the election know how useful the "private" forum was to K supporters, bloggers and staff. Before the campaign set up the K forum we had a private forum that a KFF set up for the same use as the one I set up yesterday - to share strategy and ideas to help JK.

There has been a wonderful response from some here who are interested in participating and understand that there are many benefits of such a forum. I would be sorry to see some here miss out on that - but for those who are wanting to particpate we'll move ahead with the private forum and work together to help JK.

[BlueIris]

91. I registered (with DU handle). But...

What do I do now?

ETA: PM KG through the other forum. Okay. I missed that before.

[ray of light]

94. I registered there.

[kerrygoddess]

98. Ray, Blue Iris and others -

Will get you set up today... I'm multitasking between biz and blogging! Thanks for joining - I hope we can do a lot of good there!

[k j]

99. Just time enough...

to do a fast read through. A non-googleable forum is a GREAT idea. I've been a part of a few of them and exposed more information about myself there than I would ever feel comfortable doing anywhere else.

Wildeyed Lib, happy you all got to see (and hear) JK and Teresa. I wouldn't put too much stock in this uproar, because from my perspective, it isn't an uproar. Share or don't share. There are many, many, many people on the internet who have worked long and hard for John Kerry, both on-line and on-the-ground, spending money and time they had to wring from their real lives. John and Teresa know some of our names but not everyone's name... but that in no way lessens the work that is in front of us to do.

The only thing that will kill us from working as a team is our own egos. Let's just not go there, anyone, okay? Please? I just won't be a part of a group that spends their energy that way.

Off soap box.

[fedupinBushcountry]

101. KJ

I know nothing about you, except maybe the kitten who was to eager :rofl: just joking.

There are quite a few of us on here who have been on a private forum and it was specifically done so we could communicate without the whole blogosphere knowing what we were talking about. How do you think the mods on DU communicate, same way.

I think that this has gotten way blown out of proportion, if I remember correctly, we had discussed this idea in order to communicate to each other when we were not able to do it here on this forum in likelihood of being deleted, locked, banned or even interrupted by members not even belonging to this group, and that is why we need a place where we will be free to speak our minds. It doesn't mean we will give up this forum. and a private forum is not even used that much until you know you have something you want to say that is not allowed here or is privy to JK supporters.

I also think JK would like us to be able to talk freely about him and his ideas, in fact I know he would, for I have done it and in a private setting and with loyal Kerry supporters and that is why he loves the bloggers, he knows we are with him and he is with us.

So please, everyone take a deep breath and take a moment to think about this, we are all here for the same reason.

Just my 2 cents.

[kerrygoddess]

102. I think

KJ was just pointing out that some of us have been there done that - the private forums, the traveling to events as a blogger, etc.

And yes, JK would want things shared. That's why he takes the time to talk with us.