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kttmmom Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 12:36 PM
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A bit of a different take from Kos' "Bogarting the Limelight"
and from the Globe, no less. At least they included Kerry's spokes person's explanation.

Kerry steps aside for teamwork...
( Boston Globe, by Nina J. Easton, 2005/12/04 )
Rhode Island's Jack Reed, West Point graduate, former Army Ranger and paratrooper, Senate Armed Services Committee member and leader of Democratic efforts to build a unified message on Iraq, was supposed to be the designated hitter for Senate Democrats in responding to President Bush's speech on the war Wednesday.

Sorry I can't post the link - it's beyond my tech IQ, but I found the article through Yahoo news.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 12:48 PM
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1. Link:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/12/04/kerry_steps_aside_for_teamwork/?rss_id=Boston+Globe+--+National+News

(All you have to do is copy it from the browser address bar - where you would have typed in a url if you were looking up a site manually - and then paste it into your post. Making linked text is a little harder, but naked links work fine on DU.)
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kttmmom Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 02:43 PM
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7. Thanks, MH
Maybe by my 1000th post I'll figure out all this stuff!
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 12:51 PM
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2. 3 more paragraphs
Since I think the limit is 4 :-)

On the eve of Bush's speech, Democratic Senate leaders told the media that Reed would deliver the party's official response at 11 a.m., inside the Capitol's ornate Mansfield Room. But Senate aides told the Globe's Rick Klein that Reed's staff had learned from TV producers that Kerry, past and likely future presidential candidate, had already booked a competing time slot to deliver his own remarks from the Senate's radio and TV gallery.

A last-minute scramble to organize a joint press conference ensued, and the two New England senators wound up sharing the podium.

If Kerry's action miffed the Democratic leadership, the minority leader, Harry Reid of Nevada, isn't letting on. His spokeswoman praised the ''the two vets for speaking out about a new course in Iraq." Meanwhile, Kerry's office offered this: ''We had scheduled a press conference for Senator Kerry to talk about Iraq. When we learned that Senator Reed had one planned for the same time, we happily offered to do our event later or combine them."


Not that facts would matter to Markos though.

But it sounds like people ought to tell Harry Reid what Markos is up to. It can't be helpful to have people like Markos spreading division.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 12:52 PM
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3. This part would piss off KOS
If Kerry's action miffed the Democratic leadership, the minority leader, Harry Reid of Nevada, isn't letting on. His spokeswoman praised the ''the two vets for speaking out about a new course in Iraq." Meanwhile, Kerry's office offered this: ''We had scheduled a press conference for Senator Kerry to talk about Iraq. When we learned that Senator Reed had one planned for the same time, we happily offered to do our event later or combine them."

Again, a silly tempest in a teapot. Kos once again focuses on personalities and inside jockeying for position on Capitol Hill and ignores the real substance of what was said. It's his way of trying to not let certain Dems be heard on his site. He deflects their words by sidetracking his readers with things that no one really cares about.

The subject if Iraq and why this President is still not in touch with reality. The Dems are starting to coalesce around some prime points. Kos is willing to put his petty personal preferences ahead of party unity and the goal of forcing Bush to make changes. Shame on him for this.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 01:41 PM
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4. So in other words
Kos is a Washington Insider, I thought we progressives didn't like those insiders. :rofl: He is doomed,just another indication of how Drudgelike he is.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 02:10 PM
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5. this is a perfect example of why
people need to take stories like this with a huge grain of salt. Online journalists simply are not forced to hold themselves to the same standards that print media does, because they are beholden to nobody but themselves and their readers--there is no editorial board to fact-check like print journalists have. So people like Kos can take something, add a large dose of inaccurate, biased assumptions, and call it a story. The old adage, "Consider the source" truly applies here, doesn't it?

Unfortunately, those who want to believe something negative about someone will latch onto stuff like this. In fairness, we need to be careful what we believe that's written even about people like *, unless from a credible source, because it's just so easy to spread questionable stories to a willing audience.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 02:27 PM
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6. Bill Moyers said the blackest of lies are half-truths
I think that's true here. There was some truth to what he (Kos) said, except for when it came to the spirit of what JK was doing. JK booked a press conference, the Leadership booked a conference, then they figured it out and solved the problem. The thing is is that when I channel surfed a little, Feingold was on MSNBC, and I saw Nelson (FL) on CNN. There were interviews on cable, which I think also count as a response. The truth of the matter is that in the Democratic party it's an open field so there are MANY leaders all going for the camera. Some have presidential ambitions, some don't. But no one is being an a**hole if they want to talk to the press about Iraq after a major presidential speech.

Now maybe there are some DC insiders who hate Kerry who are making a mountain out of a mole hill, but certainly the Leadership nor Reed are visibly angry and that's what matters most.

Kos may think he's receiving info from Harry Reid, but unless it's verified by the MSM or comes directly from the horse's mouth, I say his sources aren't as reliable as he thinks.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 04:47 PM
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9. It reminds me of that medical truism
about diagnosis: "Think horses, not zebras." Always look first to the most obvious explanation.

Kos leapt all the way to zebras without thinking.

Nina Easton's take makes much more sense, but no drama. Conflicting press conferences, hence a compromise. Making Kerry come out looking accomodating and cooperative. No wonder Kos thought zebras.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 04:10 PM
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8. Considering the source (Nina Easton is married to a GOPer that worked
against Kerry during the campaign), I would say that, if there was something bad going there, we would have it.

So, clearly, there is no there there.
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