turn on CNN - it's Kerry time

[jillan]

[fedupinBushcountry]

1. I thought he wasn't on till 7

? I just saw him on the Senate floor.

[Mass]

2. What did he say?

[jillan]

3. hasn't been on yet.

Wolf is on now, and mentioned that Kerry would be on.

[jillan]

4. here's another thread started on it

I missed the first few minutes.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2257407&mesg_id=2257407

[jillan]

5. It's Kerry's plan vs Murtha's

WATCH

[Mass]

6. NO TV - keep us informed

[jillan]

8. Murtha putting up a good fight on why we should leave NOW

The troops should be outside of Iraq.
Murtha is yelling at Wolf. The Iraqis want us out, the Americans want us out. Sooner not later.

Now bring up Kerry. Murtha's discrediting Kerry's plan. There are no benchmarks.
Murtha is saying we don;t have enough troops. Either add 500,000 troops now or leave.

Murtha is hot. He is being demanding.

You know who the duers are gonna like better....

[ProSense]

9. So what if the Republicans counter with

we'll add more troops to get it right?

They will.

[jillan]

14. So are you saying - bring in the draft?

I'd like to see him try.

Murtha is too extreme, great idea, but I don't think we can cut and run. I personally think that Kerry's plan will be the best of both worlds.

[ProSense]

17. Kerry's is the best plan and is immediate enough

People will say soldiers are dying. But if we're in withdrawal mode, the casualties should drop.

[jillan]

19. Agreed! We owe it to the Iraqi citizens to leave some assemblance

of order there. And I like that Kerry has a plan.
Setting up benchmarks, setting up order.

If we just left, all chaos would break out. Just look at that prison they found.

[jillan]

10. "we've become the enemy"

Murtha's words. Murtha was good.

gonna have to wait for Kerry!

Dam - I think Kerry on Hardball and Kerry on Wolfie are going to overlap. What am I gonna do?

[Mass]

12. Which is why Kerry said there is no military victory possible.

Only diplomatic. They agree on that.

[karynnj]

7. Wolf is obnoxious

in that I assume there is probably more common ground between Murtha and Kerry than Kerry and Wolf.

[karynnj]

11. Brief Summary

Murtha essentially saying nothing is working and we aren't making progress and he says we should get out within 6 months. The army is broken.

Wolf says Kerry not in agreement with setting specific date. Wolf quotes Biden that if we leave too fast Iraq will be haven for terrorists.

Kerry interview at 7pm

[Mass]

13. Wolf did not listen to Kerry - What a surprise?

Kerry said that the benchmarks should be linked to specific dates and enforced.

Forget Biden.

[karynnj]

18. They played about 2 seconds of Kerry,

just saying 'I respectfully disagree with Rep Murtha. I have laid out a plan." there may have been a few words more - but I assume Kerry said more - Murtha incidently ignored the Kerry doesn't agree comment.

[jillan]

22. Wolf said more from Kerry.

I'm glad Kerry's interview is coming on after Murtha's.

[karynnj]

25. which concerns me because I assume he gets to edit the tape

Now they're talking about a Draft Rudy movement. (At least it would show the hypocrisy of the religious right.) The decline in Bush popularity and Hillary's popularity may help him ?????? In spite of being pro-choice, pro gay rights positions.

They are insane.

[jillan]

15. Now talking about Cheney.

Wolf insinuating that's why the dems are coming out now?!

Begala is dissing Cheney in his fat tuxedo talking about the troops.
lol

[jenndar]

16. Begala was hilarious N/T

[Mass]

20. Murtha plan's has a big problem.

He says: pull the troops outside of Iraq and keep them close so that they can come back if there is terrorism.

There will be terrorism. There is terrorism. You need to negotiate a political strategy.

I really wished that Dems sit around a table (at least those who want a withdrawal) and come with a workable solution, not shoot their plans separately and shoot them down.

[Dr Ron]

23. Never happen

You expect the Democrats to act like an organized political party? :)

[ProSense]

21. Did Murtha say this?

Deploy the troops outside of Iraq and if terrorism returned, redeploy them.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2257407#2257557

[Mass]

24. Yes. This is also in the AP release this morning

Makes little sense to me.

[jillan]

26. ugh - I have to leave for about 1/2 hr.

Keep posting -

I am recording tho.

[jillan]

27. Oh - my daughter will have to wait a few minutes.

first things first!

[jillan]

28. It was just a teaser.

a few minutes, and Kerry was great!!!!!
bye

[jillan]

29. switching to recording Hardball.

[jillan]

31. tweety pressuring McCain about pre-war intel.

[karynnj]

32. Tweety caught McCain in a flip flop

McCain says that dissent is an Anerican right, but Tweety (pretending to be Russert) pulled up comments saying they could aid and abet the enemy.

Anarchy result of Murtha plan to withdraw - but he respects Murtha

Now talking about book - which Tweety says is like "Profiles in Courage"

Tells McCain that he is interesting and a hero

[jillan]

34. WOW - tweety is LETTING KERRY TALK>

and he is listening intently to Kerry.

[Mass]

30. Please keep feeding us when Kerry is on.

[karynnj]

33. Warner on now - says his amendment signats

that Iraq needs to step up. Called Dem bill "cut and run" used the tired the dead will have died in vain. Murtha plan will send signal to enemy. His bill bi-partisan. Warner is talking about his trip with Stevens and how no military person said they should come home. I forget wasn't there a third SENATOR there taller, with silver hair. Weird that he talked like that.

[karynnj]

35. Kerry on Hardball

Kerry is doing a fantastic job and Tweety is politely letting him talk
He explained the IWR vote very well. He also said after the campaign he's not surprised by anything the administartion says. Asked why the war - mentioned DSM and surprise that it got little press, reason - PNAC (acronym not used - but that was what was described)

[wisteria]

36. Yeah, did you see that! What a scenery eater and blowhard.n/t

[ginnyinWI]

37. the stuff before was a teaser--

Full interview coming up after the commercial!

[jillan]

38. Are you sure? Wolfie is driving me crazy

He keeps saying "and coming up....."

C'mon, give me some Kerry already :)

[fedupinBushcountry]

39. Seems

like they are trying to take away the viewers from Hardball, where Kerry will also be on shortly. hould be interesting to compare the 2 interviews.

[karynnj]

40. Kerry on

[karynnj]

41. Wolf is letting him talk too

His answers were great

[jillan]

42. Comparing the 2 interviews, so far

I liked the Hardball one better.
Kerry doesn't seem nearly as relaxed in this one.

[jillan]

43. What was missing this time, was Kerry's smile.

He seemed stressed, but hey,
I loved every minute of it.

[whometense]

45. But notice -

BOTH interviews in Kerry's office. Smart move.

[Island Blue]

46. He was smiling at the end though.

His smile just melts my heart and makes me happy!

[_dynamicdems]

48. Beautiful smile. Hasn't he gotten new crinkles around his eyes

recently? They make his eyes sparkle! He looks much more approachable lately.

[ginnyinWI]

47. He was great

He didn't let Wolf interrupt and had good clear answers. I think he took command of both interviews, this one and the one with Tweety. Oh and at the end--he wants to run again in the worst way! We want that too!

p.s. this whole issue has him on fire--and he's got the troops' backs. :) :) :)

[fedupinBushcountry]

44. Wolfie

sucks, I will give Tweety a better mark which is saying a lot. Wolf butts in to much, but Kerry did not stop and finished his answer.

[wisteria]

49. I agree, and he asked some of the same old tired perennial questions. n/t

[jillan]

50. Look at this crappy picture that CNN posted of Kerry -

Guys- if you needed a picture, you should have asked!

grrr

[TayTay]

51. They should have used Vektor's top pic

It's so damn flowy and beautiful that I got the vapors. Wow! That Cnn pic is bad. Oh well.

[jillan]

52. msnbc a little better

Funny - Kerry didn't look that tired to me.
In fact, I thought he looked great, especially on Hardball.