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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 07:41 PM
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KLEEB: Please read
Keep your eyes on the news to see if the Bolton confirmation hearing happens tomorrow. There is a very good chance it will be postponed due to breaking news. The Rethugs want it tomorrow, but there have been additional allegations of bastardry by Bolton that could force a delay in the vote.

I don't want you to get there and say, "What hearing? There's nobody here." Okay? I would feel really bad.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 07:53 PM
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1. Am I allowed to read it too?
:P
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 08:15 PM
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4. Oh hi sweetie!
How's tricks> Of course you can read it. Anything I have is yours, my dear. You have but to ask.

Why no comments from you on the swoony pics in that thread? Words fail you or what?
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 08:18 PM
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6. Which thread?
I am pretty sure I have made some swoony comments recently. Although if you're talking about the photo album, yes, I saved all of those to my computer already :evilgrin:
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 08:53 PM
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9. Those are just Wow pics!
And I was waiting for you and Ms. Vektor to check in and express your thoughts.

My pardon, didn't mean to say you weren't commenting enough. Of course you are, my dear.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 07:54 PM
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2. Bastardry? More??
Oh, goody. :popcorn:
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 08:10 PM
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3. I cannot stand that mofo piece of sh*t bastard
Edited on Mon Apr-18-05 08:14 PM by TayTay
Everytime I turn around that waste of human flesh is being ratted on by more people. Did you read the DKos story about Bolton chasing a woman through a hotel in Indonesia trying to get her to change something. Now comes word that he withheld info from Condiliar and Colin Powell about important docs. His disgusting behavior knows no bounds.

TayTay wants so badly to dance on his political grave. Real bad. I can't stand 'em. Dear Lord in heaven, please let Chuck Hagel have a conversion experience and vote against this dolt in committee. Then Lincoln Chafee can see that having a spine is a good thing and he will vote against him too! Then Bolton the Bastard can slink back to his particular corner of perdition and begin to serve his time in hell. (I really don't like him, honest.) Sigh!

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Firespirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 08:31 PM
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8. That sounds good!
What a scumbag. There's really very little to say other than that.
:puke:

(BTW, I'm also going to be praying for some Republicans to do what's right instead of doing the party line.)
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 09:37 PM
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11. Condi wanted him out of the State Dept.
That's what Kissinger told Charlie Rose the other night. Could be true.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 08:22 PM
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7. Stories on Bolton's slime trail through the State Dept
Keeping info from higher ups:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61304-2005Apr17.html

How he 'kicks down' people in lower level positions:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A54774-2005Apr14.html

I lost the link on the woman who claimed to have been chased through a hotel by the bastard. I will keep looking.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 10:19 AM
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13. It was in a Kos diary
I didn't mark it though. I'll see if I can find it. The guy's not only a slimeball, I think he might be certifiably insane.

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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 11:59 AM
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15. Here's something:
http://www.majorityreportradio.com/weblog/archives/002071.php

Now Daily Kos and Truthout have Melody's story!!

Horrifying, Personal John Bolton Story By Melody Townsel Dailykos.com

Friday 15 April 2005

Melody Townsel was stationed in Kyrgyzstan on a US AID project. During her stay there, she became embroiled in a controversy in which John Bolton was a key player. She described the incident in a letter to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee members who are reviewing the Bolton nomination. Here's the entire text of her letter:

Dear Sir:

I'm writing to urge you to consider blocking in committee the nomination of John Bolton as ambassador to the UN.

In the late summer of 1994, I worked as the subcontracted leader of a US AID project in Kyrgyzstan officially awarded to a HUB primary contractor. My own employer was Black, Manafort, Stone & Kelly, and I reported directly to Republican leader Charlie Black.

After months of incompetence, poor contract performance, inadequate in-country funding, and a general lack of interest or support in our work from the prime contractor, I was forced to make US AID officials aware of the prime contractor's poor performance.

I flew from Kyrgyzstan to Moscow to meet with other Black Manafort employees who were leading or subcontracted to other US AID projects. While there, I met with US AID officials and expressed my concerns about the project - chief among them, the prime contractor's inability to keep enough cash in country to allow us to pay bills, which directly resulted in armed threats by Kyrgyz contractors to me and my staff.

Within hours of sending a letter to US AID officials outlining my concerns, I met John Bolton, whom the prime contractor hired as legal counsel to represent them to US AID. And, so, within hours of dispatching that letter, my hell began.

LINK

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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 09:35 PM
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10. make room on the couch for me!

:popcorn: :popcorn:
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 10:20 AM
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14. Plenty of room here.
Hoping it'll be a double feature and we can watch Tom DeLay self-immolate as well!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 08:18 PM
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5. Hey Thanks
If its canceled or postponed, I know how to find out, I can go to the senate foreign relations commitee website.
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 09:39 PM
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12. hehe, Bastardry
great word. I must use it from now on
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:00 PM
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16. Al Franken going to discuss Bolton news RIGHT NOW
after the 1:00 news.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:01 PM
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17. Thanks!
I am curious to see what is going on.

And the selection of the new Pope is very depressing. (Way, way, way too conservative. No hope now for a change in the birth control standards in Africa that could help to save millions of lives.)
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:03 PM
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18. It really is depressing -
though unfortunately not surprising.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:07 PM
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19. This should be good -
Edited on Tue Apr-19-05 12:08 PM by whometense
the Clemons blog is great.

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/

This one's been following Bolton too:

http://www.warandpiece.com/
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:53 PM
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26. What do you think will be the US or European impact?
He seems more conservative than JPII and less likable. (counter-intuitively, if he is as far to the right as he sounds, he might have even less luck moving people to the right, than if he were more to the middle.) Does he have a position (in Germany) on excommunicating Catholic political leaders who don't follow church doctrine?

The impact in the third world does seem devastating.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:55 PM
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27. I don't know, but I am so disappointed
I would call this an interrum appointment. The Church wants someone to come in as a placeholder so they can catch their breath after the John Paul II papacy. This guy is 78 years old. He's got 5-10 years as head of the Church. I think the Church wants it to be steady-as-she-goes for awhile without any major initiatives that differ in any way from the past 25 years. (Just my opinion.)
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:11 PM
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20. Shunning Kerry AGAIN???
Boxer, Wyden, Dodd?????

Why don't they ever mention Kerry???
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:14 PM
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21. I don't know
AAR has been so mean lately about Kerry. Hey, he just might do it, because Kerry really hates the guy. We shall see.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:18 PM
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22. Other than that Franken's
doing a pretty good job on this right now. Clemons has the goods on Bolton.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:42 PM
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24. I am confused
Are the hearings still going to start at 2:15, or later. Clemons says what is going on now here: http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/

:shrug:
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:51 PM
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25. No, they are now at 4:30.
http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/000487.html

This is un-frickin-believable. I have no idea if a hold can be put on the nomination, but it should be. Dems should be outraged and appearing in front of every camera in town to make that known.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:05 PM
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28. Wait - here it says it will still be at 2:15
Edited on Tue Apr-19-05 01:18 PM by Pirate Smile
Barbara Boxer Objects. . .Things Stall Momentarily for Bolton, but Only Temporarily
Senator Barbara Boxer has now objected to the Senate going into recess while other Senate Commitees meet.

That means that Boxer's action is forcing other Senators to vote on whether to go into recess or not. The Republicans will win by majority vote. And then the Senate will go into recess.

The Senate Foreign Relations Committee will then still be able to proceed with its scheduled business meeting at 2:15 p.m.

This is highly, highly unusual -- and demonstrates the lengths the Republican leadership seems willing to go to ram this nomination of John Bolton down the gullet of America.

What is in those NSA intercepts? I'm with Senator Chris Dodd on this.

What are they trying to hide?

edit to add - isn't Kleeb there? I wish he could blog/post what the hell is going on (I know he can't but it would be kewl).

More later.

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/

edit to add again - now C-span 2 says 2:45 :crazy:
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:19 PM
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29. kick - I kept editing but then that didn't kick the thread.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:22 PM
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30. Boxer just objected Again
Frist was trying to hold it off until 4:20. Now in Quorum call, man I have never seen a quorom call roll call done so quickly. Something is brewing. :evilfrown:
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:27 PM
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31. Repubs are voting to call off the session so Boxer can't object to
Bolton. Dem's objected - this is what life will be like after they go nuclear. No more operating by unanimous consent. Everything will have to be voted on by a quorum.

Republicans will win this, of course, and then C-span says at 2:45 the Bolton Hearings should start. I dont' know if that is right or not anymore.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:38 PM
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23. I think even some of the MSM play down Kerry
When Bolton was first nominated. The On line NYT had Kerry's quotes, but by the time the paper was out, Reid (with milder comments) was the only Democrat quoted, but they quoted Hagel and Lugar and mentioned Chaffee. (Note lack of parallel - they didn't go to Frist, but to the people on the committee)

The only mentions Kerry got that I remember from the NYT on any of the coverage was the email campaign and the non-story of the non-outing of the CIA person. (Where their view was that the news accounts were long ago and the CIA asked the name not be used - but fortunately, Lugar said the name first and it was probably his decision to do this in the open.

Does their editor hate Kerry or is it that they don't want to give him visibility as he could be competition to Hillary?
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 03:01 PM
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32. Kleeb, my man
I have a feeling you got no where near this hearing. Hope I'm wrong. If you got in, my boy, you saw a great moment in Senate history.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 06:18 PM
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33. I was near the door of senate history
:cry:
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