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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 12:55 PM
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what does JK read ?
Edited on Thu Mar-24-05 01:05 PM by JI7
does anyone have any articles or other info with a list of books he likes. and whether there are newspapers and magazines he regularly reads.

i think i remember reading in an article that to get his news he goes through a bunch of papers everyday.

on edit, you don't have to post the articles or anything, you can just give the name of the book(s) if you know.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 01:03 PM
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1. No, but I did find a great Marvin Story.
Will post upon request. (I just like Marvin, that's all.)
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 01:04 PM
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2. yes, i would love to see it
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 01:11 PM
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3. PURE CATNIP.
The indispensable man:
Meet Senator John Kerry’s chief of stuff
By By Jodi Wilgoren 4/29/04

The man who would be president takes peanut butter and jelly sandwiches Ñ on whole wheat, strawberry jelly preferred to grape Ñ twice a day on the campaign trail. He wears $15 reading glasses, off the rack at a CVS drug store. Before bedtime, he starts but rarely finishes movies like “Seabiscuit” and “The Blues Brothers” in his hotel suite. Come morning, he leaves $20 for the maid.

Voters do not learn these tidbits about Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts, the all-but-crowned Democratic nominee for president, from his campaign Web site, his public speeches or his television advertisements. These and other details are the portfolio of the man literally behind the man, ready with a uncapped bottle of water whenever Kerry’s throat runs dry: Marvin Nicholson Jr., Chief of Stuff. “I can’t help with policy, I don’t do press,” said Nicholson, 32, a former bartender and caddie who never voted before meeting Kerry in 1998. “When he wants that peanut butter and jelly sandwich, I’m ready.” So Nicholson crisscrosses the country with a loaf of bread in his bag. He makes most of the sandwiches himself, sometimes supplementing them with room service.

To spend a day in Nicholson’s shadow is to see the personal side of a candidate entering an increasingly scripted and sheltered phase of the campaign. Kerry, 59, is comfortable being catered to. He has his moods and his myriad personal needs. A social loner, he is content to hang out with an aide half his age. Nicholson rouses Kerry each morning with a phone call. Then, after a few minutes, he heads down the hall, picks up the newspapers outside Kerry’s door and brings them to him. He orders and delivers all of Kerry’s meals. He keeps little black books filled with the names and numbers of people Kerry meets, dials many of his telephone calls, helps select his neckties (and opening one-liners), collects gifts from well-wishers and transports Kerry’s leather briefcase, three hunter-green duffels and two navy suit bags. At night, he often stays by Kerry’s side until he is ready to turn in. If he sounds like a glorified valet, Nicholson is also Kerry’s ambassador, spreading smiles and remembering names for a candidate known to fumble them, reading his reactions for other aides. And in an entourage of politicos and policy wonks, Nicholson is Kerry’s buddy, going long to catch the football whenever Kerry feels like tossing it.

Every modern presidential candidate has a factotum. This “body man” is typically an ambitious Washington junkie, overqualified to schlep bags but eager to shake the high-powered hands in between. Greg Schneiders, an international political consultant, was Jimmy Carter’s administrative assistant in the 1976 campaign. He cites that fact in the first paragraph of his book, even though he went on to run the day-to-day operations of the White House communications office, become a Senate press secretary and teach at Georgetown University. Two of President Bill Clinton’s former aides became business executives; one of Gore’s aides is now engaged to one of his daughters.

Nicholson earned a geography degree at the University of Western Ontario and aspired to the Weather Channel. He stands 6-foot-8, or 2.03 meters, and seems a different breed. Reared in Canada on Vancouver Island and in Toronto by an American mother Ñ his father died when he was 9 Ñ Nicholson carries dual citizenship. He befriended Kerry, a customer, while working at a windsurfing shop in Cambridge, Massachusetts, then caddied for him two summers on Nantucket. He postponed Kerry’s offer of a Senate internship to caddie at Augusta National, home of the Masters, then landed in Washington the week before the 2000 election. By New Year’s, he had become Kerry’s driver. They hit the campaign trail together last winter.

Nicholson’s role has evolved with the campaign. He is no longer the guy who gets the toothpaste. Instead, Nicholson, who earned $45,000 last year, is the guy who asks the guy to get the toothpaste. There are plenty of people around, now, to help lug Kerry’s Spanish guitar to his room at night and tote his fancy Serotta racing bicycle on and off the plane. But it is Nicholson who anticipates Kerry’s needs as they make eye contact across the crowds. It is Nicholson who is ready with a fresh shirt after a rally in scorching heat. When Kerry stays overnight at supporters’ homes, it is Nicholson who accompanies him. When Kerry’s wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry, joins him on the road, Nicholson’s routine hardly changes. And it is Nicholson who decides what and when Kerry eats, no longer needing to ask about his cravings. “Can I have that prepared dry with peanut butter on the side?” he asked the other morning in Tampa, Florida, as he ordered two eggs over easy, bacon, whole-wheat toast and apple juice from room service. That was for Kerry. Nicholson swallowed a mini Crackle chocolate bar, smoked a couple of cigarettes, then washed down two nut-covered brownies with a Coca-Cola. For lunch and dinner, while the staff scarfs sandwiches and chips, Nicholson finds hot food for Kerry; a local specialty is nice, but a standby is soup and half a chicken with three sides (corn, green beans, mashed potatoes). “Marvin takes care of everything,” Milton Ferrell, Kerry’s Florida fundraiser, said as he introduced him at a reception that afternoon. “He’s the reason Senator Kerry is here and alive.”

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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 01:50 PM
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4. very nice little article
The only thing I wondered at: JK is "a social loner"?

As a mom and someone who is concerned with healthy eating, I approve of the nice balanced meals. Marvin should take the example! tsk, tsk.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 01:56 PM
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7. I know.
I read in the Washington Post back in 1985 that they gave him crap because they considered him a fixture on the 'party circuit.'

Ah, the press! Can't live with them, can't make 'em get a story straight either. According to folks in MA who knew him when, he is a very sociable guy.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 01:53 PM
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6. i loved reading that
i'm not sure i read this specific one but i read similar things about Marvin and his relationship to JK.

what i like is how Marvin started working for him. they just met in a way we meet people almost everyday in stores but then became better friends. it's also interesting that Marvin doesn't seem to have any interest in politics but he gets along so well with JK and knows him very well.

i remember watching campaign events and Kerry would just look towards somewhere and Marvin would just appear and help out with whatever needed to be done. and many times it was without any words exchanged as the article mentions.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 01:58 PM
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9. This article was an excerpt from a NYTimes
They had a list of what MArvin carried in his bag. It was pretty average. He really is Chief of Stuff. I love the fact that this title is the one on his business cards. (LOL!)
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 02:12 PM
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10. i think it does point to JK's appeal
he could have easily just tried to hire someone for that specific job. a lot of people around him seem to be the same though, they are people who became friends with him first and then went to work for or with him. that's one positive thing he has going for him.

his campaign wasn't just about a bunch of people he didn't know and were hired for the purpose of the campaign. but they were his friends first.

this is a huge contrast to Bush who everyone claims is likable yet he has no friends. EVERYONE around him is a result of his dad and his dad's friends bringing them on for purposes of business and politics.Kerry has his crewmates, college friends, his ex wife's brother is one of his best friends and conintues to be.

also he gets along so well with his stepsons. they were adults when Kerry married their mom and there wasn't much need to form a close relationship or a need for a father. but they just got along naturally.


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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 04:40 PM
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14. The press then makes no sense
Edited on Thu Mar-24-05 04:43 PM by karynnj
The social loner has many intensely loyal friends streching back as far as 40 some years. The social, regular guy has few friends.

and now they're back with he has no friends in the Senate - which did not look to be the case from the photos - (esp the one of Harkin and Kerry grinning like schoolkids as Kerry poked Bacus's cowboy hat. It's hard to believe the 2 of them don't like Kerry.) It was clear from the SS event in NYC that he and Lautenberg are friends and Kennedy is clearly a friend. He seemed friendly enough.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:28 PM
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16. It's amazing how long this stuff has been going on.
I am just plain fed up with people drinking this Koolaid. I think it goes back to the Globe stories from long ago (which go back to Kerry winning that primary when the Globe had endorsed Shannon in '84.) The Globe coverage of Kerry before '84 was fine (great prosecutor, smart guy, very good instincts.) The Globe coverage after that was polite to his face, but knifing him in the back when he turned around. I think it's all their fault.

The national media is lazy. Take Candy Crowley on CNN (please!) She apparently thought Kerry was out-of-touch because he asked for green tea one day at a meeting in a MidWest hotel. Ooooh, green tea, what a friggin weirdo. (Kee-rist, I have Lipton Green Tea bags at work. It's not so odd or unusual.) Candy Crowley had been sipping the media koolaid. She never bothered to get to know the guy or give him the benefit of a doubt. She just parroted the line that Kerry was an elitist snob and * was a 'regular guy.' This is barfable. If * is a regular American guy, I friggin what to get out of the country. He's a pure phony.

Now, where was I? Oh yes, Marvin. If you can tell a person by the ompany they keep, then Kerry's all right. Cuz Marvin is great. (My favorite staffer ever, bar none.) And based on the list of food that he orders, John Kerry has an amazing metabolism. That's a pretty good sized breakfast and the guy is rail thin.
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LeftyLizzie Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 07:54 PM
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15. I want this guy's job!
Think about it: you get to hang out with JK all the time! I certainly wouldn't mind making his daily PBJs - and they wouldn't even have to pay me! I hope there's a job opening for the '08 campaign . . .:P
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 01:53 PM
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5. I googled and found a site
Edited on Thu Mar-24-05 02:01 PM by ginnyinWI
check this out--I've skimmed it and it looks promising. Will go back and read it.

http://www.counterbias.com/149.html

another: http://www.gpl.lib.me.us/WRW2003.htm#Kerry
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 01:57 PM
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8. Yeah I know some
Flags of our Fathers and that book about Lewis and Clark by Ambrose.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 02:14 PM
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11. seems like something he would like
it's too bad Ambrose died a few years ago. i know there was that controversy with the plagiarism before he died, but it would have been interesting to see what he had to say about some of the things that have happened since he died .
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 02:37 PM
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12. Yeah I forget the name of the book though
The other book I mentioned though is one of my personal favoritse and one of the people in it is an ancestor of mine, I wonder if Kerry in a way picked Mike Strank of the six flagraisers to identify with, after all Mike Strank was Catholic and Slovak, Kerry is half Czech, and the two peoples have lived side by side, I am Slovak so :shrug: and related to Strank so I really admire him a lot, I Admire the others of course.
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Forever Free Donating Member (542 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 04:08 PM
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13. Reason: Why Liberals Will Win The Fight for America
Its by Robert Reich, who was the former Clinton labor secretary. I'm reading it right now and its really good. I remember seeing it lying on Kerry's desk in his Senate office in a picture from a magazine...although I forget which one. (Time?).
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