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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 10:07 PM
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Vietnam POW who appeared in SBVT ad says he would never support torture
Edited on Fri May-22-09 10:09 PM by beachmom
Then

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/21/edwards.swiftboat/

Bush adviser quits after appearing in swift boat ad
Kerry has accused group of illegally working with campaign
Monday, August 23, 2004 Posted: 10:49 AM EDT (1449 GMT)

ROANOKE, Virginia (CNN) -- A volunteer adviser has quit President Bush's re-election campaign after appearing in a veterans group's television commercial blasting Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry's involvement in the Vietnam-era antiwar movement.

A Bush campaign statement said it did not know that retired Air Force Col. Ken Cordier had appeared in an ad by Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. The Kerry campaign has accused the group of illegally working with the Bush campaign.

As a so-called 527 group, Swift Boat Veterans for Truth is barred from coordinating efforts with an election campaign.

Kerry's camp calls it a front for the Bush campaign and has urged the Federal Election Commission to cite the group, the Bush campaign and the Republican National Committee for violating federal election laws.

The 527 groups are named for the federal provision that makes such organizations tax exempt and allows them to accept unlimited donations.

Before his departure, Cordier -- who spent six years as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam -- was a member of the Bush-Cheney campaign's veterans' steering committee, campaign spokesman Steve Schmidt said in a written statement issued Saturday night.

Cordier appeared in a commercial launched Friday by Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, which has accused Kerry of lying about his Vietnam service. In it, he and other Vietnam veterans accuse Kerry, a decorated Navy officer, of selling out his old comrades by joining the antiwar movement upon his return home.

"He betrayed us in the past. How could we be loyal to him now?" Cordier asks in the ad.

Schmidt called Cordier "an American hero" but said he would "no longer participate as a volunteer for Bush-Cheney '04" because of his appearance in the anti-Kerry ad.


Now

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/05/22/torture.christian/

Torture prompts soul-searching among some Christians

(CNN) -- The men first ordered Ken Cordier to strip naked.

They then forced him face-down to the ground and pinned his arms and legs. One of them grabbed a fan belt from a truck and began flogging Cordier. When it was over, they returned another day with a new approach. They slung a rope around Cordier's neck, pulled him back like a bow and beat him with their fists.

"You could tell they enjoyed it," Cordier says. "They had that look in their eyes and they grinned."

This is how Cordier described being tortured. He is a former U.S. Air Force pilot who was captured by the North Vietnamese in 1966. Though he was tortured for six years in captivity, Cordier says he survived because "I never gave up faith in God and country"

But what happens when faith in God and country seem to collide? What happens when people like Cordier, who rely on their faith in God and their flag, are asked if they would support torture against suspected terrorists?

Cordier says he would never support torture, but his views would make him a minority among a certain segment of Christians, according to a provocative survey.



Does this guy not realize that his actions were fully in support of torture? After all, the Abu Ghraib scandal hit in April 2004. I don't know how the guy can live with himself.




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ObamaKerryDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 05:39 PM
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1. My thoughts exactly..
I'm sorry, but I find it sickening how this guy obviously wants credit for "never supporting torture", yet willing participated in a smear campaign that was arguably one of the biggest reasons why the administration who advocated that very same torture was able to get back in office in the first place (not to mention defaming one of his fellow vets). Shame on him! :grr:
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 09:07 PM
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2. Not to mention - his and many SBV for lies went after Kerry
was that in 1971 he spoke against the US doing things including those that could be called torture. The fact is some US soldiers DID the things Kerry said they spoke of doing in his Senate speech - and many included actions towards captured people that were torture (or worse).
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ObamaKerryDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 03:40 PM
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3. Exactly! And by smearing him for speaking out against those things..
they were advocating torture themselves or at very least exhibiting some real denial about it.

What a hypocrite this guy is!

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