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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 07:52 PM
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Wow _ NYT Kerry hits it home
'But last night, Mr. Kerry earned a healthy dose of political redemption delivering possibly the best non-acceptance speech at a Democratic convention since Mario Cuomo and Jesse Jackson wowed the crowd in San Francisco more than two decades ago. Mr. Kerry demonstrated a passion and intensity that he rarely showed on the campaign trail in 2004. In doing so, he not only brought the partisan crowd in Denver to a fever pitch, but he became the first Democratic politician in recent memory to so openly and courageously defend the often maligned patriotism of his party."
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Now, if Mr. Kerry had stopped there this would have been an effective partisan speech — memorable in the moment but likely soon forgotten. But what John Kerry said at the end of his remarks took a very good speech into the pantheon of great speeches.
For more than two generations, one of the dominant narratives in American politics has been the notion of Democratic “weakness” on foreign policy. Democrats, the stereotype goes, do not love their country; they are not patriotic, they are as Jeane Kirkpatrick famously declared at the G.O.P. convention in 1984, blame America-firsters. And for years, Democrats have struggled to fight back; often choosing political artifice over impassioned persuasion. But, last night in Denver, John Kerry fought back:
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And instead of hiding behind showy displays of patriotic symbolism, Mr. Kerry offered a full-throated defense of the idea that dissent is as pure a form of patriotism as any that exists in a democratic society:
Years ago when we protested a war, people would weigh in against us saying, ‘My country right or wrong.’ Our answer? Absolutely, my country right or wrong. When right, keep it right. When wrong, make it right. Sometimes loving your country demands you must tell the truth to power.

Whether one is a Democrat or Republican, these are the types of words that need to be heard on the campaign trail. In recent years, the patriotism of Democratic candidates has been all too regularly questioned; and the very notion of dissent scoffed at by some as un-American. This is no way to have a debate about national security or, for that matter, elect a president, and John Kerry, who regularly saw his patriotism laid out for scrutiny, knows all too well the damage that such attacks can have on not only one’s political future but the national discourse.

http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/28/kerry-hits-it-home/?hp

This is higher praise than I have EVER seen in the NYT for Kerry. Also shows how little attention they paid in 2006 as Kerry used the same words about dissent constantly - but this is very high praise - the best "non-acceptance speech in two decades" - that would include Obama's speech. Theu don't mention he wrote it himself.
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Democrafty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 07:56 PM
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1. Wow!
If not for the '04 snark, I would think we were being punked.

It's been a good day :)
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 08:48 PM
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2. Me thinks I might be reading that one again
Soon. Possibly, at work.

WHOA! That totally rocks!
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 09:58 PM
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3. This has been an amazing day
for us longtime (and long suffering) Kerry supporters, hasn't it?

When I read words like that I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Considering the number of times I myself have heard him speak those exact words on dissent, it totally floors me that they are new to someone writing for the NY Times.

All day long my emotions have been ping-ponging between delight for him, and pride, and complete and utter fury at how little attention the same man who spoke the same words was given four years ago. It's enough to make a person's head explode.

As an amused aside, I wonder how all this is playing over at EOR and Beatty HQ's. Can't be making them happy. }(
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 06:55 AM
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4. This is the line that took my breath away:
But last night, Mr. Kerry earned a healthy dose of political redemption delivering possibly the best non-acceptance speech at a Democratic convention since Mario Cuomo and Jesse Jackson wowed the crowd in San Francisco more than two decades ago.


Wow.

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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 09:39 AM
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5. You know what's odd about this?
I have heard him in better form. He was simply amazing at the Dissent speech in April of 06 and amazing again in June of 06 at Take Back America. I thought the Convention speech was wonderful, but it was also a bit rushed.

Unbelieveable. Nice to have people finally listening.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:53 AM
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6. I agree - I think the dissent speech was far better and Kerry's best
Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 11:55 AM by karynnj
It also contained much of what he in this article finds "great". I really wish that people would have given that speech the coverage it deserved. I think he was rushed at the convention, but I think he went over his time as it was - if it was 10 minutes which a lot of the speeches were.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:10 PM
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7. You're right that he was rushed. But when he hit the line on torture,
that is when it took off. From torture onward it equaled Dissent. In fact, he may have been a little more emotional at this one. The interesting thing is that he rushed because the schedule was off due to Bill's long speech, so he was trying to be considerate, especially for Biden.

But your point stands. They were surprised because ever since he gave his concession speech, they haven't been listening. Except the blogosphere. First us, and then when he started posting on DailyKos, a wider blogger audience. The traditional media types are just catching up on a phenomenon that began in earnest in January 2006.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:57 PM
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10. Yes, and that's probably partly why McCain...
...is so anxious to knock the Democrats off the media coverage so quickly. JMHO.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:54 PM
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9. I agree. I saw both of those speeches...
...and have the DVD of the Dissent speech (watched often back in the hopeless days :7 )...and on delivery only, I think they were better.

It's the message in this speech which was heard by many 'for the first time' that made it spectacular. I also think this speech was well-performed, but the environment in the Pepsi Center was distracting to the message.

What I have heard from people I know who don't follow Kerry as closely as I do is that they heard two things:

1) They LOVED the part where he contrasted Candidate McCain with Senator McCain. They think more of that needs to happen.

2) They also loved the part on patriotism...how he defined it and 'took the flag back' for all of us who have felt our patriotism disrespected when we disagreed with administration policies. I don't think most people I know had ever heard him do that...even though we here know he has.

It is unbelievable that people are just now listening. I think Kerry laid the foundation for what Obama said about patriotism yesterday...and he did it well. I hope that...together...over the new couple of months...they will hit hard on this on the campaign trail.
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:45 PM
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12. YES! I agree!
I also thought it wasn't his very best (because of the rushed pace), but also I am amazed and happy that people are finally listening.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:48 PM
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8. Might want to tape the ThisWeek Show on Sunday
This week with George Stephanopoulis at 9 AM (EST) - or check your local listings.

Nice guest lineup!
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:58 PM
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11. YAaaaY! Thank...
...you.:patriot:
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:37 PM
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13. thanks. nt
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