Did anyone see the new Indiana Jones film? I swear there is a reference to the SBVT in it.

[beachmom]

Maybe it's my one tracked mind, but there was one scene that definitely seemed like a reference to the SBVT attacks in '04. The film takes place during the fifties and the McCarthy era. Indy gets captured by the feds after being detained by the Soviets; some of the feds are basically McCarthy right wing goons, and question whether he is a Soviet spy. An Army guy walks in, and vouches for Indiana Jones, who had served in the OSS in WWII. The goons keep still questioning his patriotism, and the Army guy, outraged, says "Have you any idea how many medals this man earned in the war?!?". The goons replied, "That's IF he deserved them". For which Indy gives them a major look of death.

I checked the history of McCarthy and the Army hearings:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army-McCarthy_hearings

I didn't see anything to indicate that it was common for him to question if they deserved getting medals; just if they were a communist. That is why I think my gut instinct is correct -- that George Lucas put that in the film to refer to more recent times. Remember he did that in the last Star Wars film he did, too.

[ray of light]

1. I think it's subtle but you might be correct.

Also, in the Pirates of the Caribbean three there were clear references to the lack of Habeas Corpus.

Also, remember in 04 how they tied everything "Hollywood" against the Democratic Party and John Kerry. These movies point out the Republican hypocricies and actions; however, I can believe that the RNC will try to use them against 'us'. We must continue to allow movies, documentaries, etc...to speak out the truth--no matter which party it favors.

But ironically think of the new lingo since GWB took office:

Dixie Chicked.
Swiftboated.
waterboarded.
U.S. commits war crimes and torture.


Not sure what else..

[Luftmensch067]

2. I don't know if it was intentional

I'd like to think it was...but I know that's exactly what I thought of when I saw that scene!

[Firespirit]

3. That is what came to my mind instantly when I saw the movie

I think these lines are absolutely intentional; Pixar was a bit more overt with the CEO-President saying "We're going to stay the course" in a clearly doomed context in WALL-E, and as you pointed out, Lucas having "If you're not with me, then you're my enemy" in SW3. I also think that, although it was based on events in the book, the scene in Return of the King with the knights going to slaughter while Pippin (Billy Boyd) sings is a direct "in your face" to all the wingers who thought that the previous film, The Two Towers, was pro-Iraq War. The event was in the book, but Peter Jackson really emphasized it a lot more than Tolkien did, particularly the needlessness of that particular venture.