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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 11:41 AM
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Some thoughts on where I want to go from here
Before yesterday, I imagined I would be busy blogging on Senator Kerry's behalf that he would be the best presidential candidate in '08. Although I did have some inkling that he might not run, I still was under the assumption that he may take the plunge and my time would be spent helping him to the best of my abilities.

Well, a few things have happened (apart from Kerry's announcement yesterday) that make me wonder if I need to take a step back from the blogs to pursue other areas that are also important. As many of you know, I read the Iraq blogs, and have also commented on them, trying to reach out and start a conversation. Like the Bush administration's botched occupation of Iraq, I have been a complete failure in that regard. Many Iraqis dislike lefty anti-war types just as much as arrogant right wing pro-war types. They are suspicious that we only read their blogs to further our agendas, and I think there is a speck of truth there, even for me. Well, there is a new history book out called "Power, Faith and Fantasy" about how this is in fact an American tradition -- looking at the Middle East like they're just like us, when in fact, their culture is VERY different from ours. When I engaged the Iraqi blogs I couldn't help myself but inject American politics, and I realize now how foolish I was -- Iraqis just don't give a hoot about American politics. They have more important things to worry about -- they're really not even all that interested in Bush. That is because they have their OWN politics to worry about as well as a horrible war that has torn their country apart.

From Whometense, Senator Kerry said this yesterday:

The civil war we are in the middle of now didn't begin when we went there. It had been tamped down, quashed by a dictatorship and by history. Before I went back to visit the Middle East, I had the chance to read a book by Vali Nasr, called ``The Shia Revival,'' in which he traces the history of Shiaism and what is happening in the Middle East today. What we learned from that is instructive and critical to determining whether troops will make a difference on how we resolve what is happening in Iraq today.

When the Prophet Mohammed died, Ali, who was his cousin and stepson and virtual son, was passed over at that time to be the caliph. In fact, three people were chosen in between him. Ultimately, he did become the caliph, but that was the beginning of the difference of the separation, if you will, within Islam. That became far more pronounced about 1,300 years ago, around 680, when the grandson of Ali was slaughtered in the desert along with 72 of his followers--72, a number that comes back to haunt us today, because that was indeed an event in Karballah in 682 that defined martyrdom, which we see played to by the extreme religious efforts that are taking place today in the Middle East.

Why do I mention this today? Because that is where the great Shia-Sunni divide began. Ali and his followers were beheaded in the desert, their bodies left to rot in the sun. Their heads were posted, first in Najaf, and later in Damascus. That began to instill a depth of both anger and suppression that has gone on all of these centuries.

The fact is that we, through our invasion and our election, have given the Shia at the ballot box what they never could achieve all of those years, and the Sunni, who have continually been the dominant, more secular faction that managed the affairs of state, are suddenly finding themselves in the minority; many believe they were born to the right to rule and are determined to restore it. This is the civil conflict we have put ourselves in the middle of, with American troops who don't speak the language going door to door and house to house, attempting to somehow make sense of an alien environment they have been plunged into--from California, Kansas, Missouri, Massachusetts, and all of our States. We are doing precisely what Secretary Rumsfeld said we would not do--putting our troops in the middle of a civil war.

On my recent trip to the Middle East, I heard grave concerns expressed by Sunni leaders, Mubarak and others, about the Shia resurgence and Iran's growing influence in the region. Indeed, Iran's influence has grown, and we are partly responsible, if not significantly responsible, for that growth. We need to stand up for our allies in the region, our Sunni friends, yes. But we can and must do it in a way that doesn't exacerbate the Sunni-Shia rift in the region. That is why we have to ask more of our Sunni allies when it comes to pressuring the Sunnis in Iraq to accept that, with this turn of events called an election, they will no longer--absent a revolution, which some are planning on--be running the country, and that they must lay down their arms and join the political process.


I would like to do what Senator Kerry is doing -- seek knowledge of this mysterious land instead of bombing it or demanding things from them they are incapable of doing at this time. Thing is, I'm not as fast a reader as him (:)), and with blogging and following the news so closely, I no longer seem to have much time just to read books. So I think that soon I will take a sabbatical from the blogs and learn more about that region. How can I write about these places when I know so little? How can I debate my friends and neighbors about Iraq if I have failed to grasp the long history there? Well, I can't. The thing with blogs and me is it's all or nothing. If I say I'll only blog "just a little" 2 hours go by in the blink of an eye. So in addition to caring for my family, if I really want to understand the peoples of the Middle East, I will need to take a breather from the blogs, and concentrate on this new quest for knowledge.

I'm not sure when I'll start this. And, of course, if Senator Kerry needs some blogging on his behalf, I will do it. But I wonder if taking some time out from the endless news where you don't learn much except whether Hillary or Obama are up or down will be healthy, and will make me a better blogger in the long run.
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k j Donating Member (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 12:47 PM
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1. You've got my vote...
*big grin*

Do you know if Michael B. Oren, author of "Power, Faith and Fantasy" was recently on The Daily Show? If so, yes, that is a book that sounds quite interesting and one written from an entirely new perspective, America's continuing misperception of Middle East culture from our Founders until today. Also Beachmom, I totally understand the impulse to dig into this. My immediate reaction after 9/11 was to buy Karen Armstrong's books and basically throw myself into reading as much about the Middle East and Afghanistan and I could. But far too quickly that quest was abandoned in order to fight the build-up to the Iraq War. And you know the rest.

Writers spend enormous amount of time doing research. I know I do. I think this plan of yours is a good one, Beachmom. You won't have to engage in the day-to-day BS of Hillary/Obama bashing, especially since that doesn't interest you in the least, and you'll spend the time instead focusing on an area where that you'll be able to apply your writing skills to their best advantage.

The issues with the Middle East aren't going away anytime soon. We need thinkers who have done the work to at least attempt to understand the differences between our cultures. I've also found that books by good old Joseph Campbell have helped in that regard. His study of religions, and the individual v the collective and vice versa, I think are on-point.

I've enjoyed your blogs and hope this works out, so I can read your work in the future.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 01:21 PM
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2. Thanks, kj -- and thanks for the suggestions, too.
In fact, if anyone has some suggestions of books to read, I'd love to hear it. I want to read the Shia Revival book Kerry mentioned plus the one I mentioned, too about American history from 1776 to the present.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 01:24 PM
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3. Go my dear, do what ever refreshes your soul
I am a big advocate of taking breaks. It is good for people to do so. Come back, refreshed, re-purposed and renewed.

We'll keep the light on for ya in here, promise.
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k j Donating Member (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 01:28 PM
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4. You go, Beachmom!
"A History of God: The 4,000 Year Quest of Judaism, Christianity and Islam" by Karen Armstrong
"The Battle for God" by Karen Armstrong

Writers need time to regroup, recharge, and research. It isn't enough to just keep pounding out words every day, we need to keep stretching and reaching and trying new things. New areas of interest are the water that fills the well.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 01:31 PM
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5. I feel sort of like a proud big sister.
(I hope that doesn't sound patronizing, because I don't mean it that way.)

It has not gone unnoticed the way you have taken to the world of foreign affairs, and politics, and to me you seem like a natural. Your passion and your honesty add a tremendous amount to the debate wherever you engage. You've made a real name for yourself at Kos - no easy matter in that gigantic pond - and you are always thoughtful and articulate in defense of your positions.

One of the greatest side benefits of being a Kerrycrat has been getting to meet other Kerrycrats, and finding out what wonderful people they all are. All well-informed, thoughtful, and having their priorities absolutely straight. Whatever you decide to do, you will be brilliant at it, I have no doubt.

I'm cutting way back on blog-reading too, finding that without Kerry to defend I am quite uninterested in the 2-years-out horserace. I'm looking forward to doing my bit to get Kerry re-elected to the senate, reading more, and getting back to my long-neglected research project.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 01:35 PM
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6. Oh dear, Everyone is leaving
Edited on Thu Jan-25-07 01:35 PM by TayTay
Soon it will be just me and a big pile of Congressional Records and a few tattered committee hearing transcripts. Sigh!

It will be lonely in here without yuhz!
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Democrafty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 01:50 PM
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7. Relax, Tay, you won't be getting rid of most of us that easily.
Beachmom, I really, really applaud what you want to do. I was having similar thoughts last night about how great it will be not to have to constantly speak to 2008, and to be able to use wljk to follow the issues, and not the horse race.

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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 01:51 PM
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8. I didn't hear anyone say they were leaving our little enclave here for good
Just that they were going to refocus away from the 2008 horserace, and on to other things. We won't leave you here by your lonely. :)
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 02:01 PM
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12. Correct.
I couldn't do without the DU JK group!

I'm just cutting waaaaaay back on my adventures out there.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 01:51 PM
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9. Well you better be!! How else are we going to find out what Mr. Kerry
is up to? The media? Baaahhh!! I'm not changing anything yet. And I'd like to think this forum will go back to what it was back in '05 -- a nice place to go to learn more about Sen. Kerry and what he's up to. Let's face it -- the last year was a lot of -- QUICK -- go to xyz blog and defend Kerry! And that ate a lot of time for many of us. That's the part of it, that I want to step back from. (and I'm really hoping that that will be less necessary now that he's officially out of the '08 race) But I do want to go in here and see what the good senator is doing, and say hello to friends. Just maybe less often with perhaps a few weeks off.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 02:35 PM
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16. Ah, good.
Edited on Thu Jan-25-07 02:36 PM by TayTay
And in all seriousness, there is another part of me that is very relieved at this decision. I know it's a selfish part, but it's there. Massachusetts needs, some say desperately, the talents of 2 full-time United States Senators right now. (Ow, GV, I promise to share. I promise. Put down that rolled up newspaper. Ow.)

We have had 4 Republican Governors in a row. 2 of them thought so little of the idear of governing this Commonwealth that they walked away for their jobs in mid-term. Another Governor gave birth to twins a couple of months into assuming the job. (Call me crazy, but I can't imagine her focus was on getting funding to rebuild bridges in Lowell right away.) Our last Republican Governor thought so little of the state that elected him that he goes around the country telling people how horrible it was to be our Governor. And, ahm, I don't want to bring this up much, but, ahm, that last Presidential race didn't do a lot for my self-esteem as a resident of this proud old Commonwealth. That was not Sen. Kerry's fault, far from it as he defended his home state all the time. (Which was wonderful to hear!) But still, it's no fun being the butt of jokes and being told that you are the weirdo state all the time.

So, yeah, a part of me wants a full-time Senator to help us out. Massachusetts has had an all Democratic delegation to the Congress since 1997. It was okay, not great, but okay during the last Clinton years. It has sucked beyond words during the Bush years. We are a donor state that gets back 78 cents for every dollar we sent to Washington. We could use some of that money to help out at home. We have some real problems here and a talented Senator devoting a lot of time to working for the State that elected him and not running for the Presidency is not too much to ask, I hope. (Hey, he had a lot of the first 2 years of that term devoted to national issues. I was proud too, but, it would be nice to get those next 2 years in. Real nice. We need his help. We really, really do.) Massachusetts needs Sen. Kerry right now to help us out. (And we want him to focus on national issues, but we need him for state stuff as well.) So, I want some other things to focus on too.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 02:04 PM
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13. I am not leaving
Edited on Thu Jan-25-07 02:17 PM by politicasista
Just going to immerse myself in other things for the time being. I will still come here for Kerry news. :hi:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 02:16 PM
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14. I hope not!
Edited on Thu Jan-25-07 02:21 PM by ProSense
Here is where I'd like to be. Early last year, I had no idea what the year would bring. The thought of another run by Senator Kerry was in the back of my mind, attached to a little hope. When he introduced his legislation to set a deadline, it felt like progress, advancing the debate to end the war. There were many moments like this before the desire to see him run again came to the forefront. I want to go back to supporting the Senator in his great work.

Congress is a fascinating institution. Although there are 535 members, one Senator or Congressman can work to better the country and the world---whether through investigation or legislation---against the odds. Senator Kerry is such a person, and it's an honor to support him in any way.

Being Kerry supporters means we're compelled to keep fighting because he never gives up. It means that when the situation looks bleak, we can look forward to words, like those he spoke today, that inspire hope. It means that when America desperately needs leadership---for the sake of country, not self---we can count on him to do what he has done throughout his years of public service, step up and provide it.

The hurt will be there for a time, but I am looking forward and counting on his leadership to end this immoral war and to addressing the issues that are of great importance to all Americans.

I thing Beachmom and Whometense are right, we'll all have a different posture now that Senator Kerry is not running for the Presidency. In a way, he gave us more freedom when he freed himself to pursue this important mission. I'm sure everyone will be here, maybe not as frequently, but we'll be here.

Oh, and Tay, I'll definitely be here to keep up with the transcripts. I'll definitely have more time to read all of them. I look forward to that.


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Firespirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 02:30 PM
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15. I'm not going anywhere.
If I go through with my current plans -- which I am not as confident of today as I was yesterday, but I'm still leaning that way -- then I will need to play good cop on the person I'll work for. To do that, I'll need to know what JK is up to, and what better way to get it than here?

Maybe this will be a waste of time to advocate for JK within the party, but I feel like I have to try, and I feel like this is my best shot of getting him the sort of influence and legacy that he deserves to have. I don't want to go through 2008 listening to the empty blather of the Clinton operation, and have to watch good people like Kerry and Gore campaign on their behalf just because they ARE good people.

After that, he needs a Cabinet seat; I think he'd accept it if offered. I want someone in the White House who would offer it to him. That isn't Hillary.

Since yesterday, it's come to light that there are ample opportunities for me should I choose to stay where I am. It's sorely tempting. I know it'd be easier on my nerves and would do wonders to reduce my stress level, which has been off the charts for six months and has affected my blood pressure for the worse. But I just don't feel right about that. I think it'd be, for me, taking the easy way out and shirking what I feel very strongly is my responsibility.

Beachmom, I applaud and respect your choice. I've followed your posts about Iraqi bloggers, and about the politics of the Middle East in general. I can tell that this is a topic that you care about and want to find out more about. Go for it! We're all right now looking over what we're going to do with this time. It looks like we're mostly going to end up doing very different things. Defending Kerry 24/7 is not a full-time job for us anymore, although I have an inkling that it will certainly be a task from time to time, and will bring us together when we need to do it. If we're enriching ourselves and branching out, so much the better for him when he does need us to come to his defense again.
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karendc Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 01:51 PM
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10. Check out Raed Jarrar's perspectives too
http://raedinthemiddle.blogspot.com/

He is a friend and quite on top of a great deal. If you like, you can interview him for any writing you want to do. Email me.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 01:59 PM
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11. Wow. Thanks, Karen. I think right now, I want to learn more, but
I will keep that in mind in the future. I found this website (Josh Marshall linked to it):

http://aliveinbaghdad.org/2006/08/08/node243/

And they are videos made in Iraq. One guy worked with peace activists before the war and he knows Raed (or maybe he's related, I can't remember), but even there, I sensed ambivalence toward Americans from him, even when he said some of them are now good friends of his. I really feel like if we Americans make the effort to truly understand their point of view and listen instead of telling them what to do all the time, we will improve the situation and relations.

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karendc Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 05:44 PM
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18. Raed has relocated to DC
and lives near us. He is also friends with (or aware of) Riverbend, whose blog we based FEAR UP on (that's a play my friend Marietta and I did in DC, London, and NYC last year). The stories we found are pretty challenging. If you like, I can send you a copy of the script. We did not actually write the script; we compiled it from first person accounts; the sub-title is Stories From Baghdad and Guantanamo.

I know it's a lot to process, but I think the stories we told are a good overview of where things are and might be helpful.

Let me know if you want me to send it to you.
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mloutre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:13 PM
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17. K... Nuff said... But you come back now, y'hear?
We'll leave the light on for ya.
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