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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 01:40 PM
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Kerry response to Bush's speech today. (Oh this is good.)
Kerry Responds to Bush Speech at Military Officers Association of America

“If President Bush had unleashed the American military to do the job at Tora Bora four years ago and killed Osama bin Laden, he wouldn’t have to quote this barbarian’s words today. Because President Bush lost focus on the killers who attacked us and instead launched a disastrous war in Iraq, today Osama bin Laden and his henchmen still find sanctuary in the no-man’s land between Afghanistan and Pakistan, where they still plot attacks against America. In a feat of incompetence and ideology, this administration has chosen to fight the primary battle in the wrong place in the wrong way.

“President Bush says Osama bin Laden and the terrorists plan to target America’s ‘weak points.’ That’s why it’s even more unacceptable that while the president gives speeches, our borders remain porous and our ports, chemical plants and railways remain insecure. Over here, our weak points remain weak because this administration has had the wrong priorities. And over there, Afghanistan is slipping back into chaos, Pakistan is one coup away from becoming a radical Islamic state with nuclear weapons, Iran is closer to a nuclear arsenal, and Iraq has become a recruitment poster for terror. Only Donald Rumsfeld could call this a plan for victory. A new document may get the Administration through the next news cycle, but it will not win the war on terror. We need to change course, not more of the same.”


Oh that speech Sat is gonna be good. I can feel it in my bones.
Snap!
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 01:58 PM
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1. My other Sen, Uncle Ted, just put forth the most interesting amendment
Edited on Tue Sep-05-06 01:58 PM by TayTay
that would require the Bush Admin to figure out if we are indeed in a civil war in IRaq, and if so, to come out with a plan for what to do.

If no civil war, then what are we doing to protect IRaq and our troops.

Brilliant. Just brilliant. (Hey, I ever told you Mass has pretty good Sens, all things considered.)
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 06:58 PM
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12. cool Isn't that what Warner was quoted about asking as well
Really glad that Kennedy put it out as an amendment.
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Blaukraut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 02:04 PM
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2. This response is spot-on!
Edited on Tue Sep-05-06 02:04 PM by LevensonK
I just can't believe that all of a sudden, Bush has remembered Osama - just in time for the upcoming elections. Kerry is correct in calling him on that.
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:28 PM
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16. I just wish Keith Olbermann would credit what Kerry says.
They are so on the same page on this issue. Watching the show tonight, I wanted to scream at the TV, "Read Kerry's statement."
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 02:32 PM
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3. Excellent! I can't wait for that speech on Saturday! n/t
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 02:43 PM
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4. You should post this in GD
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sandrakae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 03:06 PM
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5. Ouch. I love him when he is pissed.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 03:46 PM
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7. Great slap down from JK
I watched Bush's swarmy quoting of Osama - argh. I have a clip here - http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=4085
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 03:20 PM
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6. I love this:
"A new document may get the Administration through the next news cycle"


This is a great way to expose repeated spin!
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 06:09 PM
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8. I was just watching the CBS news
and they showed Bush's speech, but not this. Meanwhile, ABC is about to run the Republican "story" on 9/11 commercial free (apparently)... and people wonder why people don't know the Democrats' message? Please...

Equal time is a myth on network news. Having Tom Friedman on to sort of rebutt Bush is a poor substitute for the strong words of leaders like Kerry.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 06:24 PM
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9. Thanks for the heads up.
from Bloggermann: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14687895/#060905a

Sept. 5, 2006 | 7:00 p.m. ET

Special comment on Bush's speech

Today, President Bush followed in the steps of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld by comparing war critiques to the Nazis of the past, and the al Qaeda of the present. Tonight, Keith Olbermann responds with a special comment on “Countdown.” You can catch Olbermann’s full response at 8 p.m. ET on MSNBC, but here’s a sneak peek:

The attempt to link, by the simple expediency of one word—“media”—the honest, patriotic, and indeed vital questions and questioning from American reporters, with the evil of al Qaeda propaganda.

That linkage is more than just indefensible. It is un-American.

Mr. Bush and his colleagues have led us before to such waters.

We will not drink again.

Any Comments? Email KOlbermann@msnbc.com
Watch “Countdown” each weeknight at 8 p.m. ET on MSNBC TV


Keith mostly ignores JK too - but at the moment her's the best we have on mainstream TV.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:00 PM
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13. Commercial Free ???????
that is a sign that they knew that there could be a "Sinclair" like backlash to the sponsors. This however means that ABC is the sole sponsor - because the forgone revenue is their equivilent way to pay.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 10:12 PM
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18. But on the other hand, on ABC's news tonight--
they broke a story about how Pakistan is giving bin Laden and Al Qaeda a safe haven in a northern border province. Keith O. referred to ABC's story tonight also, saying if true, it really flies in the face of *'s speech today. Keith is also so right-- that this kind of rhetoric from * just emboldens and enlarges bin Laden and his crew. I mean, when you compare a guy to someone responsible for over 6 million deaths?? Anyway, I say it backfires, because all people think is, "well why haven't you caught him yet?"

ABC also had Richard Clarke on, and George Stephanopoulis, and they and Gibson were a lot less forgiving of *'s speech than Couric's report. Maybe their news dept. is separate from their entertainment dept. Hope so.

But what I really can't forgive * for is for actually reading quotes from terrorists! What is he now, a junior-ranger terrorist himself, doing his masters' bidding? His purpose is exactly the same as theirs: he wants us to be terrified!
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 06:28 PM
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10. Ahm, apparently Sen. Kerry is too smart for the room
in GD. Someone ran his speech through a whosit speech tear-aparter thingee and decided that the words could only be understood by College freshmen or better. Huh!

I did take the trouble to 'dumb it down' a bit in the GD post. Whaddaya think?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2812026&mesg_id=2812537
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 06:49 PM
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11. You so crazy!
:rofl:
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:14 PM
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14. Wow, that was great dumbed down speak, Tay Tay! n/t
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:25 PM
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15. Yeah, it comes naturally to me
Ahm, ah, you know what I mean.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 10:01 PM
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17. No, I don't believe that for a moment. You just have a gift for reaching
the "extremely word challenged person".
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 06:39 AM
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22. Funny.
Maybe if (when) the good Senator runs again for president, you could travel with him and be his interpreter. He would be making a speech and we would see him on the teevee, but hear your voice instead.

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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 06:42 AM
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23. That would be a disaster
No one would be able to understand what I was saying. Besides, I vote for people like Sen. Kerry because they are articulate, smart and say wonderful things in a wonderful way. The request to 'dumb things down' is kind of insulting IMHO. I don't think there is anything wrong with the way Sen. KErry talks now. (That's why my reply was pure silliness.)
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 07:27 AM
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24. I think some people are full of
Edited on Wed Sep-06-06 07:30 AM by ProSense
crap poop! They continue to make claims unsupported by any facts (80% of the electorate can't understand a speech. Gimme a break!). You could show them polls, pictures, etc., but they will still spew crap poop!

http://poll.gallup.com/content/default.aspx?ci=10021&VERSION=p


Then, as they're insulting people's intelligence, these same detractors turn around and talk about elitist.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 07:42 AM
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25. They did polls after the debates in '04.
Edited on Wed Sep-06-06 07:47 AM by TayTay
The American people decided that Kerry won and they did so without the aid of a translator. They saw the guy speak his mind and they told pollsters that he clearly knew what he was talking about. I don't think most people had any trouble dtermining who the smart guy was and who the boob was.

The problem was with the people who didn't watch the debates. And the ones who believed in the lies. A lot of people who want to go after the 'dumb guy vote' are willing to give up the extra six million voters who showed up at the polls in '04 for Kerry in order to get these other voters.
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:53 AM
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26. Yeaah, I was being a wee bit facetious myself.
My ultra-dry sense of humor doesn't always translate well in type. I guess I should've learned that by now.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 10:51 PM
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19. it's gone out into a lot of media outlets
I found an AP release of it on the ABC webpage. Along with a shorter quote by Feingold. I think the media is starting to enjoy poking holes in the little windbag by looking for Dem responses.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 10:55 PM
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20. Well, that's good news.
It was an excellent statement.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:01 PM
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21. Speaking of Paskistan
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