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Morpheal Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 02:10 PM
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TIME FOR A FARMING REVOLUTION IN AMERICA = A CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUE
One of the main problems with farming in North America, particularly the USA, is political ideology.
Farmers are encouraged to be increasingly competitive with each other, and with big agro business.
They are encouraged to be strictly independent operators, free enterprise businesses. That is the
problem.

The system is so politically rigid and blasts so fiercely at any deviation from its ideas as to how
everything MUST be done, that there are no alternatives allowed in thought or action. This has
become increasingly worse in the past 30 plus years.

The same problem is now plaguing Washington in other areas of economic activity. We see the
results of that rigid, ideological, approach, every day in the news. Where too are the billions to
bail out the farming industry ?

First plan of attack..............

The constitution demands that farmers, who have more to do with the "general welfare" of "we the people"
get first dibs on any federal money, long before for profit mega corporation manufacturers get a hearing
in DC as to federal handouts. It's the law, not an option. The people and their good must come first, according
to the preamble of the constitution. Any farmer can make a case for precedence in getting federal money
at handout and bailout time. Simply by referring to the preamble. A class action suit by farmers to gain
those billions, precedent to large corporations, is arguable, and long past due. Every farmer knows how
hard it is in America the way that governance as treated the independent farm operator, owner. It is worse
than tough and yet the constitutional challenge remains to be made as billions, trillions in fact, are
allocated to big for profit corporations that do not produce food, and do not directly meet the constitutional
criterion for precedence in government action. Farmers as a class of legal entity should have constitutional
precedence over and above GM, Ford, Chrysler and so forth. So what has gone wrong ? In that case it is
time for farmers to hire on some good constitutional lawyers to put government back in its place, in proper
relation to "we the people", not "we the big corporations". A dust bowl is not an option but even that
could happen if nothing is done. That can be avoided and solved with federal money.

Now, second plan of attack.......

Back to that ideological bind. Farmers have been discouraged from forming collectives, to decrease the
amount of investment needed for quality and productivity. Collectives are "communist" or at best 'socialist"
and America wants none of that. Well, actually that closed mindedness is the problem. You have to break
with Washington's ideological screws being tightened on thinking and action, to do things in more
pragmatic and effective ways. It's not only about money, but it is about the quality of product and quality
of life, necessitating change. Communal farming, collectivized farming, real sharing of knowledge, and
the means of production is a way out of increasing pressure to give it up and let big agro business
take over, and it is also good environmental and conservation sense. Big business tends to ignore the
environmental issues, when it comes to maximizing profits. The smaller operators tend to have more
traditional sensitivity, even if less technically progressive savvy, but even the latter can be more readily
gained by a communal or collective farming approach. Certainly more bang for the hard pressed buck.

The freedom to pursue non free enterprise, less narrowly capitalistic modes of function, and to
organize more communally and collectively is a constitutional right that has been denied to the
American farmer for far too long. It is time to reclaim that inalienable right.

So we have a two pronged attack plan against the DC strangle hold on farming.

Yes it can change, but it has to change at the grass roots. It has to come from the grass roots farming
communities, and the organizing of farmers into a political force, against the Washington dictatorship,
which is leading American farming into ruin and disregarding the long term general welfare of "we the
people" in favor of "we the big corporations".

Cheers.

It's time for a farming revolution in America.

Robert Morpheal

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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 02:42 PM
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1. Great Post. I grew up on a small farm/ranch. My parents, lifetime members of National Farmers Union
realized early on, and fought for solidarity and parity for their product, that their survival and success would be realized only in union with others in the business of independent farming.

It is this spirit I recall, that needs to be returned to the American people, small business owners, and the only way to break the corporate stranglehold which has succeeded in ripping the unified middle from our America.

This is a fight for the future of our working class.
Those Senators who stand and advocate loudly the final blow to the American Unions, as to the Big 3 Bailout, need to hear loud & clear from the American workers that we well know what their true intent is and we intend to fight to restore American business to its rightful owners.
We will no longer tolerate unfair labor, nor the greed of Corporate power.

The election of Barack Obama was our victory. One of many we still must fight to return this great Nation to the American worker.
We unionize our efforts against those Senators and Corporate cronies who oppose workers rights, just as we unionized our efforts to elect Barack Obama as our US President.

Make some serious noise. This is OUR America.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 02:46 PM
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2. Are you a farm owner?
Which Constitution is it that you, a Canadian, wants to change?
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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 02:52 PM
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4. Canadian farmers are free to grow hemp. We in the USA are still
Edited on Thu Dec-11-08 02:53 PM by Blaze Diem
banned from growing hemp as a farm to market product since every State law in favor of it is forbidden by an archaic Federal law.
But we can import Canadian hemp products. Just cannot grow it ourselves.
sucks for the USA farmer.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 03:01 PM
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5. As a small farm owner and operator, I really don't care about hemp
Because of where my operation is located I really don't care about sugar beets, or sunflowers either.

Where is your farm that hemp is so important to you?

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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 03:28 PM
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6. I don't have a farm. I live in the City. HOWEVER..in support of farmers,
and in particular, to the hemp issue, I am referring to the State of NDakota.
Federal regulations have prevented farmers there from growing hemp although the State may have supported this industry.
The bitch of it is, directly across the border, in Canada, farmers are free to grow hemp and ship the products made from hemp, directly to US consumers.

There were two farmers from NDakota who took their case for growing hemp, to the SCourt. but it was rejected because of archaic Fed laws.

I may be able to locate the article, was posted here on DU while back.
Politics involved, no doubt.
Just to note that Canada is somewhat ahead of the US when it comes to common sense in their ag business.
In this respect at least.
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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 03:37 PM
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7. Here is the DU Link -from proceedings in 2007.........DEA Simply Ignored the request.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1165339

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Perhaps with a new Sec of Ag, and a new President Obama in 09, common sense will be restored to our working class.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 03:54 PM
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8. I'm aware of the happings in the Dakota... but in keeping with the gist of the OP...
communes and collectivization are not a burning desire of many a small farmer.





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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 05:38 PM
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9. yes, that's true. The poineering spirit and pride of individual ownership
reigns supreme.
Unionizing for their very survival against corporate farming is about as collective as they want to get.
Like fighting walmart.
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 02:00 PM
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10. Many of the small farmers here
Edited on Sat Dec-13-08 02:04 PM by hippywife
are members of a coop. Our cooperative is made up of producer members and consumer members. And we all do fine with this collective effort to support local, sustainable agriculture.

Our farmers produce fine foods that they get top price for. They aren't stuck in a losing game of corn craps with big ag.

Our cooperative is made up of all mix of people on the political and social spectrum, too.

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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 02:46 PM
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3. Has Obama chosen his Sec of Agriculture ?
just curious.
I had heard one of those on his list is the current President of the National Farmers Union.

tks.
Blaze
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