That shooting in Norway? It was really done by the New Atheists...

[TZ]

Is there nothing Atheists don't get blamed for? Somehow an anti-Muslim Christian Nut is now the equivalent of Harris, Dawkins and Hitchens..

Fundamentalism Kills
Tuesday 26 July 2011
by: Chris Hedges, Truthdig | Op-Ed
The gravest threat we face from terrorism, as the killings in Norway by Anders Behring Breivik underscore, comes not from the Islamic world but the radical Christian right and the secular fundamentalists who propagate the bigoted, hateful caricatures of observant Muslims and those defined as our internal enemies. The caricature and fear are spread as diligently by the Christian right as they are by atheists such as Sam Harris and Christopher Hitchens.
http://www.truth-out.org/fundamentalism-kills/1311686025

How stupid is this. Proves that some liberal believers are just as hateful and narrowminded and stupid as any of the fundamentalists.How long before this POS appears in R/T to show how immoral and dangerous we all are? :nuke:

[trotsky]

1. Ah, good old Chris Hedges.

He never lets facts get in the way of a good rant.

[TZ]

2. I'm finding a lot of liberals I thought

were tolerant now agreeing that the New Atheists are as bad as the fundamentalists. Apparantly just saying you hate religion and wish it would go away is every bit as bad as actually using political power to impose your will on others. I'm just astonished at people who say they are tolerant believing writing books and going on TV and expressing unpopular opinions makes one a dangerous extremist.
This article is being pushed around the teh internets without people thinking about what the implications really are.

[trotsky]

3. I keep saying this over and over but it is absolutely true.

Liberal believers NEED to have two "extremes" to place on either side of them, so they can feel comfortable being in the "middle." So no matter how ridiculous it sounds, the "New Atheists," by writing books and speaking at universities, are JUST AS DANGEROUS as the militant fundies who oppress women & homosexuals, murder people, and seek to put us all under their religious law.

[TZ]

4. I'm still waiting to hear what it is

they actually are doing to "impose their beliefs" on others. The amount of posts that basically say shut up atheists continues to astonish. If you substitute gay for atheist, they would be horrified at what they were saying. But they can't see it. It really is amazing how blind people are. I know there are rude atheists who say nasty, condescending things but thats far and away not dangerous to anybody!

[trotsky]

5. The crazy thing is, even nastier, more condescending things are said here...

about Republicans and their beliefs, and no one bats an eyelash. Or about DU hot button issues such as circumcision, breastfeeding, and the like. But my oh my you can't say those things about my special precious snowflake beliefs!

[ZombieHorde]

6. Is my reading comprehension off here? Is this guy really equivocating

writing books which critique religion, with killing scores of children?

[laconicsax]

7. That's the middle-ground position.

You know, the whole "fundamentalist atheists are just as bad as fundamentalist <insert religion>" meme.

[ZombieHorde]

9. Part of me wonders if some theists would love it if an atheist killed a bunch

Christian children. It would probably be on TV as long TV existed.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

11. You WONDER? I am 100% certain they'd have multiple orgasms of righteous victimization.

Thankfully, that won't happen anytime soon.

[TZ]

8. Basically he said there is little difference between the guy in Norway

and the New Atheists, that both are narrow minded bigots that foster hatred.

[muriel_volestrangler]

10. Shorter 'all single-issue ranters' reaction to Norway: "those people I've always hated...

... are the people really responsible for the massacre happening. I told you so before."

So, I've seen Islamophobes blame Muslims for living in Europe; right wingers complain that political correctness and tolerance didn't allow 'a proper debate' about how evil he thinks all Muslims are, so he was forced to kill instead; creationists blame 'Darwinists' for his ideas that Muslims will out-compete or out-breed others; and now Hedges says this only goes to show how dangerous the New Atheists are, because they think they're right, and so does he.

:banghead:

And, of course, TZ, you were right to predict someone would actually put it forward in R&T as if it makes sense, and isn't just a hateful rant.

:nuke:

[provis99]

12. of course, Breivik wasn't a "true" Christian like Hedges is.

Frankly, I don't even believe the Hedges is a liberal. He simply picked one side to root for, and rants for it as though he were rallying a football team; no rational reason for being a liberal seems to matter to him.

Plus Hedges apprently doesn't understand his own irony: "It is not between those who embrace the rational and those who believe in biblical myth". Yet "secular fundamentalists" are racist and intolerant according to him. So which is it Hedges? Are the rational secularists right, or bible myth-believing nutcases like you?