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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 07:19 AM
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Defense Tech: Russian Force to the Caribbean
Russian Force to the Caribbean

The Russian government is sending one of the world's largest warships into the Caribbean for a joint naval exercise with Venezuela. This will mark the first time since the end of the Cold War in December 1991 that a Russian naval force will sail that "American sea." The ships will operate in the Caribbean during November, showing support for Venezuela's government, which is strongly anti-United States.

Leading the Russian force will be the Petr Velikiy, a 26,000-ton, nuclear-propelled "battle cruiser." The ship, completed in 1998, is the world's largest warship other than aircraft carriers, and displaces more than twice as much as the largest U.S. surface combatants, the Aegis missile cruisers of the Ticonderoga (CG 47) class.

While Russian officials have denied that the deployment is linked to the United States sending naval ships into the Black Sea to visit a Georgian port, the Petr Velikiy cruise certainly reflects Prime Minister Vladimir Putin's efforts to demonstrate that Russia is again a major political-military "player" on the world scene. The single Russian aircraft carrier, the Admiral Kuznetsov, led a task force into the Mediterranean in late 2007, and there have been periodic long-range flights by Russian Bear bombers as the Putin regime seeks to impress other nations that Russia is still a great power. Admiral Eduard Baltin, former commander of Russia's Black Sea Fleet, said that the Caribbean maneuvers mean that "Russia is returning to the stage in its power and international relations which it, regrettably, lost at the end of last century".

"No one loves the weak," Baltin was quoted as saying by Russia's Interfax news agency.

Baltin, in January 2007, had declared that there was a buildup of U.S. nuclear-propelled submarines in the Persian Gulf area for the purpose of a Tomahawk missile strike against Iran.


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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:34 AM
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1. Venezuela "strongly anti-United States"? Nope. Strongly anti-Bush and anti-Exxon Mobil.
And, guess what? So am I!

These Russian-Venezuelan maneuvers are an answer to the Bushites' unnecessary and provocative reconstitution of the U.S. 4th Fleet in the Caribbean, right off the coast of Venezuela's oil rich province of Zulia. South American leaders are very concerned about this. According to Ecuador's president, Rafael Correa, the Bushites have a three-country strategy to grab the oil--in Venezuela, Ecuador and Bolivia--by funding and supporting fascist secessionist movements, to create oil-rich fascist mini-states that can be plundered by the multinationals. The strategy is in progress in Bolivia, where president Evo Morales has just ejected the U.S. ambassador, for his open support for the white separatists who are causing so much trouble (they just blew up a gas pipeline). Brazil recently proposed a South American common defense, in conjunction with the newly forming South American "Common Market" (neither thing to include the U.S.).

South America is basically defenseless, and its only enemy is the Bush-U.S. This March, the Bushites used their client state, Colombia, for a bombing/raid on Ecuador, ostensibly to kill the FARC hostage negotiator and 24 other sleeping people, without benefit of trial, but very possibly more to test out military systems for, say, grabbing Zulia, with Colombia's help (Zulia is adjacent to Colombia). The bombing/raid on Ecuador outraged the entirety of Latin America.

Our Corpo propaganda press never puts anything into perspective--context, history, facts, reason. They are just a propaganda mill. So this seems to come out of nowhere--Russian/Venezuela maneuvers in the Caribbean. But it is not out of nowhere; neither is it a provocation. Chavez is saying, "We are not defenseless." It's the only thing Bushites understand--big guns.

If they try their secession plot in Venezuela (and they may try to net Ecuador's oil at the same time), I think the Bushites are going to find out that democracy is the best defense, not guns. Chavez, and all these other leftist leaders, are actually elected, and enjoy huge approval ratings and the support of their people. It is a democracy revolution. And people who have that passion in their hearts--the passion for democracy, social justice and true representation--cannot be defeated.

These countries--Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador, Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay and possibly others--will unite, as they are doing now concerning the Bushite interference in Bolivia--if the Bushites trying anything more. We may see other U.S. ambassadors ejected, and serious alienation between the northern and southern halves of this hemisphere. The South Americans will not put up with this, and they have their people behind them.

Chavez (whom Brazil's president called "the great peacemaker," for his role in de-fusing the war that the Bushites tried to start with Ecuador and Venezuela, has not bought Russian jets, and invited Russia over for maneuvers, to start something. He is doing it to STOP something (Bushite war plans).

As for Russia, I don't know. The Bushites have been trying to start something with them ever since they began putting missiles aimed at them, in eastern Europe. And U.S.-Bush/Russia hostility may have as much to do with Iran as it does with Georgia. Russia has been involved in checkmating the Bush junta as to attacking Iran. But merely being invited to engage in maneuvers means nothing. It is a perfectly legitimate thing for both Russia and Venezuela to do--the U.S. does it all the time, around the world--and Venezuela has much cause to do it. They very much need surveillance and defense capabilities on their Caribbean border. What I'm saying is that Chavez and Venezuela are not alone in this hemisphere. In fact, they have great support in this hemisphere. It is the Bushwhacks who are isolated.
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