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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 07:38 PM
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Your post in GDP is very heartfelt and I think that most of us can relate to what you are saying.
I kicked and recommended it because it is important.
Please let me post my reply to you here:
If and when it becomes apparent that the National Party ceases to represent my interests, I will NOT leave the party. Instead, I will continue to work at the local level for local changes...things that benefit me directly.
I cannot in good conscience support what is NOT right and what is NOT good for America or what promises to leave America in the same mess it is already in.
Populism WILL come back (I am hoping the Democrats throw out the Demagogues)...but it may take a depression to make people realize that supporting a Presidential candidate like he is running for top American Idol is not in their best interest.

I also want to mention my reply to one of the numerous "can't we get along" threads that the Obamites have put out there to make this reagan thing go away.

There is ONE candidate who continually talks about the issues. The other two continue to insert wedge issues into the base of the party.
Why are they doing that?

The complex answer would probably frighten us to our core, but I think the simple answer is because they REALLY want to appeal to the republicans. My question is...why don't they care enough about MY vote to make me secure in voting for them? Why aren't they saying things to get MY vote instead of republican votes?
The answer is very easy. They do NOT care about the base. They take our votes for granted.
Perhaps this election cycle they might have to learn some tough lessons about taking things for granted.

Thank you Sara for all that you do!
:hug:
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:57 AM
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1. Thank you, Horse, for your kind and intelligent remarks.
I , too, will likely support the local candidates that I believe in. I occupy various Party positions on a local and state level but I am not sure now much effort I will be prepared to dedicate to those Party efforts if the party nominee is not one I feel I can actively support.I know definitely that there are some on going financial efforts that I make that I will quietly terminate.Some will undoubtedly argue that I will be hurting locals with this but I know better.The locals benefit little if at all from these donations.I learned long ago that only direct candidate donations support them.

This election cycle will likely be my "last hurrah" as a full bent completely dedicated Democrat.If the Democratic party has not learned their lessons ,I have.I value loyalty, and I value certain kinds of experience, and I value dedication. If my Party doesn't value those aspects and they don't want either my vote, or my participation, I simply don't have any answers.

If they think they are appealing to the GOP with their behavior, they are flat out wrong. I spoke to a staunch GOper tonight who is disgusted with the current antics he sees.He personally was revolted by John Kerry's support of Obama.He said he thought Kerry presented himself in a poor light.He said Kerry looked more like a "flip flopper" than ever.He asked, "how could someone ask that we accept a man to be his choice as a heartbeat away from the presidency and now not endorse him as president?" He said, "doesn't that mean Kerry is rescinding his choice?" He said he thought Kerry was treating Edwards very shabbily and it didn't look good for Kerry. Even though I am a huge Kerry fan, I could not defend him.

This GOPer, who feels he does not like his GOP choices, is also turned off by the Clinton/Obama spectacle.He doesn't like this being turned into a gender/ race war when the economy and the war loom so large.Again, I agree.And that Republican is by no means alone.Many Republicans would vote for Edwards and cannot understand why the Democratic party is doing this to itself.And I can't answer that question either.

All I can say, is God help us all.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:24 PM
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2. In the end
God may be the only one who can since we surely don't seem to be helping ourselves.
Great take on the Kerry flip-flop. I never thought of it that way...but very astute.
If Kerry didn't want to endorse Edwards, he should have stayed out. Nobody would have blamed him.
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