May 09 - Visionary & Intuition Thread

[FirstLight]

WELCOME!!!

At the encouragement from Our own Psychic Consortium & welcoming Hearts here at the ASAH forum...
Here is the FIRST Visioning & Intuition thread!!!!
Fitting that we begin here - in the Spring, The East of the Medicine Wheel...

"When we follow the way of the Visionary, we are able to make the Truth visible.
In indigenous societies visionaries may be shamans or artisans;
but what is more important, these societies encourage ALL members to Seek & Express Truth.
The principle that guides the Visionary is
- telling the Truth without blame or judgement.

Whe we express the inner Visionary,
we know and communicate our Creative Purpose & Life Dream,
act from our Authentic Self,
Are Truthful
& Honor the Four Ways of Seeing
(Intuition, Perception, Insight & Vision)"

-Angeles Arrien, PhD The Four Fold Way


(from www.lila.info.com)


GROUND RULES & USEFUL TOOLS

First - in the SUBJECT LINE of your post, please indicate
"Personal Vision" = PV (dreams and visions regarding you or your immediate circle of family & influence)
"Collective Vision" = CV (bigger than your imediate sphere, global, cultural, political, etc)

Second - Please create a sacred space to set the intention of visioning. Set aside you time for yourself to sit in the song of your vision... keep a journal of your dreams and intuitions, see how they unfold for you...
It can be as simple as taking an extra 15 minutes in the morning when waking and consciously tapping the Dreamtime,
(for me, I run energy every morning in the bath and set the day's intentions and 'see' my lessons and energies...)
Some use Tarot or other means of divination...I am not opposed to whatever tools you use.
I suggest you be sure to share the source of your vision when using these tools, so we can all understand better where the energies are coming through.

PLANETARY HOURS/DAYS
Please note the time of your visions of you can, and perhaps
even set the intention of WHAT TOPIC
you will be looking at (Ie, health, economy, relationships, etc)
here is a handy tool for calculating the Planetary Hour for your area
(and it also has the definitions of each planet's energies, very helpful!)

http://www.astrology.com.tr/planetary-hours.asp


Lastly - the topic of INTEGRITY & AUTHENTICITY
This is a thread to encourage us to learn more about our own gifts
as well as to assist us in working together as a collective visioning group...
Be aware of your own bias and emotional resposes to what you see. and speak them out loud
feel free to ask for help from others to "read" your space and also ask others
to see if they get similar 'hits' ...this should assist us in working toward a unified visioning experience...

Your Authentic Self is asked to come forth & join us here
and we create a circle that honors the mirrors we hold for one another
and cherishes the TRUTH that comes through us ALL...

Blessings! A-ho!

[BlueIris]

1. CV: H1N1 (Swine flu) may result in several hundred cases worldwide, but only a few

actual deaths. Not minimizing the pain these deaths may cause, just posting that I sincerely doubt the number of incidences will reach an epidemic or pandemic level, or do all that much harm to public health.

Tool used: pendulum. Time: 9:31 p.m. on April 29th.

Emotional/intellectual biases: I'm skeptical of everything "reported" by mainstream media. The very idea that MSM is discussing this makes me doubtful it will happen. But I think it's interesting that this info came through to me just a couple of days after a trusted doctor told me even he was a little concerned, and found the evidence for a possible epidemic to be credible. (So, I don't think my personal emotional reaction to the idea of an epidemic was a strong influence on my prediction.)

[FirstLight]

2. GREAT use of the tools!

You followed all the rules! yay...sorry to sound condescending but I am excitrd by this actualy coming together the way I "Visioned" it! ;)

I agree with your perception because it is what has been flying out of my mouth unwarranted during the past week...

(and my personal bias is the opposite, I actually have this desire4 to se the shit hit the fan and some weeding of the herd (old atlantis programming I think)so to hear it coming out of my mouth is an odd way for the "vision" to happen, but it has happened often enough to be noticeable...)

thanks for posting...keep it coming!!! :hug:

[nadinbrzezinski]

29. Nitpicking on word definition

it is already a pandemic, as the term is used by the world health organization.

Just important nitpicking from the POV of the health worker, disaster in me. As to the deaths... total... even if it stays at the current death rate, it will reach the 30-35K that the normal flu reaches every year in the US alone... as is it is at 1% or so lethality rate which is exactly the annual death rate for the flu in the US... and incidentally that is best case scenario.

This is meant for education.

As to the MSM... I wish people understood why they are a curse, but necessary in cases like this.

[southerncrone]

3. Question for clarification.

Is the topic now Swine Flu, or are we to post any CV or PV on any topic on this thread? Or do we need to start another thread for another topic?
Don't want to screw things up right from the start, as I'm so prone to do! LOL :silly:

[FirstLight]

4. ALL topics are welcome...

If you want to post regarding a similar topic, maybe post as a reply..

there's no screwing this up...since all the guidelines are still being figured out...!

[FirstLight]

5. PV: Owl energy showing up

Had a dream 3 nights ago about owl...the owl was similar to the golden one from "Clash of the Titans" and was playing the game of flying ahead to get me to follow. No sure where to.

yesterday, my friend shows up at church wearing a sliver & gold owl necklace - looks just like the one from my dream!

I am going out hiking this week, hoping to find a feather or 2 and continue being guiided by the owl...
or should I maybe listen more closely to this friend and see what her energy is leading me towards?

[FirstLight]

6. Intuition building "class/group" tonight & Merc Retro

I hope to return with some more info to share...

hugs! let's keep this going
I think it is very good that we are "practicing" this in May, while mercury is retro too...good time for fine-tuning...

[BlueIris]

7. PV: I am about to manifest something significant.

I haven't quite got it yet, but it's coming. I don't to post the details, since that could "jinx" it, but I'll let the forum know when I make the breakthrough.

Tools used: pendulum, Tarot cards. Time: I've been getting impressions of this since December of '08.

Biases: Well, I've been wanting this thing in my life for a while and it would help me a lot in many ways. But it's also the last thing I expected to see in my predictions for myself in '09, so I don't think my bias alone brought about the vision(s).

[Sanity Claws]

8. Dream of a new political party

I dreamed some Republicans got together and formed a new party that was moderate. Some blue dog Dems peeled off and joined them.

This is consistent with how I think so I don't think this dream revealed anything new, at least to me.

[GardeningGal]

9. PV - just had a hit when hearing about the guy responsible for

approving the AF1 flyover in NYC has resigned. I got a hit that this was a good thing and that he was a spy for Cheney. I don't know much about the person - I think his name is Caldera.

Full disclosure of personal bias - there's a political type guy here in Colorado with that last name and I don't like him at all.

[MorningGlow]

10. I agree, GG

That had been my first impression when the story broke--it was done on purpose, by one of Cheney's moles, to discredit Obama. And there are more moles to be unearthed--which is a priority of Obama and the loyal members of his administration.

[southerncrone]

11. Yep. Obama needs to "get the red out!"

[rosesaylavee]

12. CV: Widows / Hippos

Woke up from a dream last night and this is what I remember from it.

Heard someone say or read that something had happened and resulted in 50,000 widows. My response to it was that this greatly exaggerated and not responsible reporting. The location started with In or T and also included MX or MPX.

Random end to the dream had a hippo pinning someone down in a pool with their head in the hippo's mouth. As the hippo had no middle upper or lower teeth and all it could do was clamp down on it's incisors, there was no damage to the person's head and their head could be removed easily if the hippo would just back away.

[rosesaylavee]

13. Ok, did I sink this thread the other day or what?

Kick.

[Dora]

14. PV - on personal acheivement. Also, query on shared perceptions

Saturday morning I was working in the kitchen and feeling stressed out by the many things to do over the weekend: laundry, errands, meals, mother's day, attending to my husband and child, etc.

My inner voice spoke up and said clearly as a bell, "Give freely of your time." And I decided to try it. I stopped hoarding my time through the what/when/how of my mental to-do list, perpetual evaluations of effectiveness, judgment of who is helpful or not, etc.

In short, I heeded that voice. I told myself to chop wood and carry water, smile at my family, and choose enjoyment rather than worry. Ultimately, I got more done this weekend than I thought was possible, and I'm seeing myself accomplishing more at work as well.

*****

So, here's something that's been on my mental plate. My husband has been reading my mind, catching my thoughts. And these are clearly thoughts he's picking up on, and each time it happens it gives me a goose. But last night raised the bar on perceptive experiences. He was tucking our son into bed, and I was in the kitchen eating a chocolate chip cookie. As I was finishing the cookie, he came into the kitchen and said, "I was just tasting your cookie. I was in the bedroom with J****, and I could taste your cookie." The cookies had not been in view at all through dinner or the evening, and it's my opinion that the cookies were not present in our shared household consciousness of the present moment. But while he was alone with our son, and I was alone in the kitchen and suddenly munching a cookie, he simultaneously found himself experiencing the taste of the cookie - from down the hall.

I'm sure this kind of phenomenon isn't unheard of, but I don't know what to make of it. Any thoughts?

[MorningGlow]

15. CV: Regarding Obama's choice not to release the interrogation photos

It's a correct choice. Never mind the DUers throwing a hissy fit about it--Obama is doing the right thing. (He may release them later, and that will also be correct.) I don't know why it's correct not to release them now, however; it may have something to do with the timing more than the content. Obama is treading very, very carefully. Still playing chess with his adversaries within the gov't.

[skye66]

18. Looks like you were right

"He said that he became convinced that the particular timing of what we were dealing with in Afghanistan right now made this a particularly bad time to release those photos," she explained. "And he said that we should not conclude from his decision right now that those photos will not end up getting released. There are many ways that might happen. The court might order it. Circumstances might change the balance of consideration that would weigh in favor of transparency, which he reiterated would be his default position."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/20/obama-huddles-with-human_n_206104.html

It is like a chess game. Or like juggling chess games! He's got a lot of balls in the air at the moment, and has to leave some room to adjust to changing circumstances.

[MorningGlow]

24. Oh cool--thanks, Skye

I didn't see that HuffPo article. :hi:

[BlueIris]

16. CV: This (army not prosecuting drug addicts) will become a huge scandal.

More at this USA Today link:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/military/2009-05-20-drug_N.htm

Tools used: Just my own intuition. Time: Off and on for three years, but I got a hit about this last night in post-rush hour traffic, around seven p.m.

This topic (widespread drug abuse among active duty service members) is hardly the only or most critical one regarding our downtrodden, horribly exploited military, of course. The crisis that is the military in the post-Iraq II years is just beginning, and as others have been posting here for some time, will probably involve unimaginable kinds of mental and physical health problems for returning veterans, at much higher rates than we saw post-Vietnam. Very sad.

[FirstLight]

17. CV - Agree

I have been getting the same thing for some time now...reading about the soldier who went nutz and shot 5 people while undergoing "evaluations" was a big red flag for me as well..

MY intuition and even some of the visions I have while reading certain news stpories about th prescribed drugs given by the military, as well as the lowered standards for allowing people with certin "instabilities" to serve MULTIPLE tours...

This SHOULD be a no-brainer in that it is dangerous to have these folks come back after living in an URBAN warfare zone...and then try to live in their hometowns like nothing ever happened, is INSANITY comitted ON our soldiers BY the Military. I have visions of being in the jungles of V3eitnam and that the streets of hometowns were a solace for the Vets of that war. (though they still had serious issues)
I imagine what it would be like to have to raid houses in cities that wo9uld remind you of home...how would you ever feel safe walking down the street again? a bus blowing up, a kid's backpack, ALL are potential traps....

Living in Paranoia 24-7 for years and having repeated traumas (seeing the atrocities of daily "patrols"..) will already screw up one's brain...add weird psychotropic drugs and uppers to the mix, and you are ging to be bringing home some folks with mush for brains who only know to "shoot at anything that moves"
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The only GOOD side to this I see snd feel is that it wil be yet another sad stepping stone for our collective consciousnes to shift it's feelings of war. This war we do not blame on our soldiers, but we hope that they can heal as well as we can. We were ALL lied to and once they were there, many were just drugged into submission and psychologically abused as well. WE can take the lessons that ALL war is atrocity, and use it to re-educate our selves on how to treat others humanely....from the soldier to the detainee.


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I've been avioding the news as of late because I find it shows me a reality I don't want to manifest and I choose to see what can come out of our higher evolutionary powers and the help of 'Others' nearby....
Just found out yesterday about the eclipses in July-Aug, and I firmly believe that these are cosmic "switches" to help "reset" the polarity at certain spots on the planet and that will resonate through the collective.
My vision I keep holding for is that all the bad guys will be 'deflated'...they will cease to have power or control and be made NULL ...they will also mostly be contained as well. either by house arrests or by physically having them attend a conference of some sort where they can be challenged or indicted.
The light will get lighter and the second half of 2009 will be about liberation from the last 8 years, another layer of liberation. I don't know how many of these "layers" of grime there are...but the cleanup has really begun. The angels are working on ALL of us!


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Also - here's a thread that addresses the Cheney and his eeeevil minions.... and some VISIONS AND PC input related...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=245x92031

[divineorder]

20. Which is why I sense pot will finally be totally legalized

The reason why Vietnam did not blow up as much as some feared was because the authorities "looked the other way" at times on marijuana use in the 1970's. Which is what I sensed reading your entry. Mellowed out vets were less likely to cause trouble. It came down to Carter, who would have gone all the way.

But to avoid overflowing the mental health component of our new health system, pot will once again be at least semi-legalized, if not becoming totally legal.

A warning for Obama: as the Regent Graduates and those brainwashed to think only Bush can be "anointed of God" get pushed out, they can create real trouble for Obama from time to time. While Bush doesn't really care for them and won't encourage them coming around, depriving them of a locus, they may become cultic in their devotion none the less.

[rosesaylavee]

19. CV: Water issues

Had a dream last night where I was talking with PC from here. Ha! Somehow we were discussing some upcoming crisis and they asked me what I thought the worst thing was that could happen... And I guessed drought/water issues. Not sure if that means there will be one or that is my fear. But interesting that PC would show up in my dream. Can't remember what 'they' looked like either. Just a voice ...

[eilen]

21. A couple of dreams that stand out for me

Last week I had a dream that a sewing group I am part of had a big goodbye party for one of our elderly members. It was very happy, she was going on a long trip. What I found interesting is that there were a very large number of people there I didn't know and we have a small group.

Last night I had a dream I was in some kind of underground facility with many passages and hatches. We were walking through the halls and looking for a specific room. I feel I need to meditate on this one more.

I also had a dream that an old boyfriend (who I really could not identify with anyone from real life) had either disappeared or may have been killed in a war. Someone was looking for him, I was asked to see someone at a government health facility and interviewed about him. I was very emotional about the possibility that he might have been killed but I did not feel he was "gone." I went to some areas where we had spent time together and from what I remember in my dream, was somewhere in Canada--Toronto or it may have been Montreal because the surroundings were much different than an American city and I heard people speaking in a language other than English and it was by a University. I was hoping to see him or friends of his and warn him but I mostly wanted to see him whole and alive. I personally have never been to Montreal with a boyfriend by a university in RL.

[liberalmuse]

23. Weird dream about President Obama.

I've had a few, but this one was just...odd. I don't like to dream of broken teeth. The last time I dreamt that my teeth crumbled and fell out or I was trying not to swallow their reminants, my brother died. This dream was about a half broken tooth and I can't remember whether or not it was mine or Obama's, but I do remember that President Obama was so busy that he couldn't schedule a dentist appointment to get it fixed until early August. I woke up pretty upset. I don't want anything to happen to Obama, but the good thing is, it was a dream about a half broken tooth as opposed to crumbling teeth. And I'm not psychic. I had this dream about 2 months ago, and it likely means nothing whatsoever, but it was one of those emotional dreams I feel the need to share, regardless. My only other premonition was about New Orleans, which I had posted here in 2004. That's it. Anyway, this isn't really a premonition. Just a weird, paranoid dream about me/Obama going to the dentist, and who doesn't have those?

[MorningGlow]

25. Oh I haaaate crumbling teeth dreams

I used to get them all the time when I was young--during a certain summer right after I graduated college, when I was really stressed out, not knowing what I wanted to do with my life. I was also having migraines during that time (but never had them before and haven't had them since, except for the flashing light kind, and those only rarely).

I don't know what they stand for (nobody I knew died when I had my teeth dreams) if not for stress (maybe someone else here knows)--but if it is stress, I can believe it. Obama must be wound up tighter than a spring, poor guy.

[get the red out]

22. Torture and other stuff

I don't consider myself a psychic, but I do get some hits and am glad this thread is here, this could help me practice for fun.

This is just from the small intuitive "blasts" that I have from time to time, but I really think that Obama can't release the torture photos now, like some folks said earlier in the thread. I feel that the reason involves how much our allies (and other countries that are marginal friends, like China) are able to deal with the extent of the torture (far beyond waterboarding) going totally public and still be supportive of the US during this economic crisis. It would endanger the troops, yes; but it could endanger our getting out of this economic misery with the help of other countries as well. We don't need our banker, China, for instance, to have photographic talking points against us right now. A picture is worth a 1,000 words.

Obama won't repeal "don't ask don't tell" in the military until after the Supreme Court Justice fight. He can't fight both social battles at once and get the judge he needs on the court. That would be just too much ammo for the neanderthals out there.

Two personal notes;

My husband and I read each other's minds constantly, I have pretty much gotten used to it; but I don't think we have tasted each other's food (yet). But the phenomenon of knowing each other's thoughts sometimes is uncanny. And he avoids admitting to it, though it is terribly obvious. I had a psychic tell me that we were both intuitive, but he didn't want to admit to it, period.

I live in a city that is all about college sports and I am unashamedly on that band wagon. I had a bad feeling that something wasn't going to go right with the football team for some time now, despite high expectations. I just couldn't shake it. Today it was revealed that one of the senior leaders on the team tested positive for a "banned substance". Sometimes I like being right (like when I just knew who was going to be the new basketball coach) and sometimes I don't, like right now :( I feel awful for that kid and the team.

[3littlebirds]

26. I feel he's making cheney squirm

I have always felt, that he plays chess with these guys. (Cheney, etc.). Cheney was scared the pictures were coming out, and got on every TV and sang his heart out.
Than Obama says he's not releasing the pictures. He is playing a serious game with serious people and winning. They don't know what to do next. Cheney probably said things he wouldn't normally say, but the pictures were coming out so... It's all a game and they are not used to an opponant like Obama. They are scared to death, like they've made people for years. He is coming apart in front of our eyes. Cheney thinks he is very smart but not this time. Obama is setting up the pieces and he is falling right into place. Obama has to be so smart right now, these people have a far reaching arm in our government. I suspect they have people in every part of the government and the senate and congress are all in the lobbyist pockets. That's hard to go against, Obama has to play it right, and he is doing just that.
Setting up every move, we have to have some faith right now.
This is just something I feel very strongly.
I've been having alot of dreams personally, which come true within a day or 2, And it's really making my life insane right now, I'm afraid to dream. I think this is on another post. But anyway this is what I strongly feel.

[FirstLight]

27. PV family & dreams...

The last 2 weeks I have had some disturbing dreams...

first one woke me up at 3 am and shook me so bad I had to get up and have a drink of water and ground before tryiong to go back to sleep...
I was in the car with my parents and they were driving over the mountain and my dad went off the cliff and my mom was thrown ut of the window and I jumped out trying to grab her... very slo-motion. (my dad is suffering from some degeneration in his neurons in the brain and I am upset that she still lets him drive when he's getting "lost" in his own rural town..)
Now my parents rented a car and are driving to LA (omg, serious freeways!) to visit friends next week...I don't feel very good about their safety.

second one happened during this week as I was 'napping' (been sleeping alot too lately)
Had a dream I was at my sisters house and there were people over (or was I introducing her to my new love interest?) and she just made me look horrible and spoke about every shortcoming I had and was just brutal about it.
(self fulfilling prophecy? we had a "family BBQ yesterday and they had their neighbors over...the whole day was about her and my parents putting up the front of how we are such a normal loving family, meanwhile cutting me down with these insidious comments that were not openly hostile...but still hurtful...i came home & cried for an hour)

I'm glad I don't have to interact with them at all for weeks... i do much better in MY OWN life and world!...but now I wonder if my parents will make it back from their trip in one piece...?

[FirstLight]

28. ki ck

:) I'd really love some input on my last entry...thanks guys :grouphug:

[BlueIris]

30. CV: Obama will get a successful SCOTUS appointment in during his first term, but

it will not be Sonia Sotomayer.

Tools used: My intuition, which registers a big, fat "no" on Sotomayer, and a pendulum, which also says "no." Time: around eleven p.m. tonight.

[Sanity Claws]

32. I pick up something different

I get that Sotomayer will be confirmed.
I'm relying on my intuition, feeling.

Sorry BlueIris.

[BlueIris]

33. No need to be sorry. Sotomayer is a great pick and I hope she is confirmed.

But what I get is that the person who will eventually fill Souter's seat is a Leo Sun, Gemini Moon, Aquarius Rising, born (I think) in 1939. I think the justice is female.

[Why Syzygy]

34. Those are the planets in Obama's chart. (of course not 1939) nt

[BlueIris]

35. I noticed that.

Again, for the record, I hope SS gets a spot on the Court. But the hit I got is that she withdraws her name from consideration for some reason. I also get that the justice who does get in there will be in by midsummer (some time during the Sun's trek through Cancer is my guess).

[Why Syzygy]

36. When I read

Sanity Clause's post, I got the *feeling* that she will withdraw too. But, then I read and watched a couple of news items and the *feeling* went away. I definitely did feel if her nomination fails it will be due to her own withdrawal.

[Psychic Consortium]

37. Questions

Are you getting anything on the reason for her withdrawal?

And when?

Also do you get a probability on it?
(Probability would be anywhere from 0-100% on any future event.)

And anything more on the possible replacement?

[Psychic Consortium]

38. Questions and comments

Never feel a need to apologize for different material coming
in on a psychic level. It is not an unusual occurrence even among
talented psychics....we just get what we get.

Can you get a probability rate on this event happening,
anywhere from 0-100% ?

[japple]

31. PV: Fragment from a dream I had last night. I don't remember

the what I was dreaming about, but woke up hearing the words, "Save Cholo Road."

This is really a mystery to me. Will have to do some more investigating. Thanks for starting this thread, FirstLight.

[get the red out]

39. Rom Emmanuel

This afternoon I kept having Rom Emmanuel pop into my head. I get a feeling that he is being over-cautious and slowing the President down on some things he wants to do. Rom still sees the President's role too much as he saw Bill Clinton's role as President. He hasn't fully realized the scope of changes to our nation, people, and government in the past eight years. He may be so focused on the economy that he doesn't see much else yet. I just started getting thoughts that he is slowing the President down, not stopping him, just slowing him. He really feels he is doing the right thing, his motives are good, but he might be somewhat out of step.

This was just a persistent thought or impression, it started in the afternoon and I kept seeing a picture of Rom Emmanuel in my mind's eye (one I saw recently that I didn't think much of at the time). His picture would pop into my head and I would think, this isn't the Clinton years, he is slowing Obama down.