Is the right trying to make Obama fail? My intuition about this.

[Cleita]

I just got a little flash of intuition over something that Randi said. She put out a figure that I can't remember off hand of jobs lost since the beginning of this year alone and it's a staggering number. I'm sure it will be on her website later if anyone wants to look it up. Then she mentioned that more lay offs mean fewer people with money to spend that will cause even more lay offs causing a downward spiral. In the meantime Congress is obstructing Obama's stimulus package and the DLC Democrats are letting them claiming bi-partisanship, which led me to the question and flash of intuition, why did all these companies wait until the new Congress and White House took power? Now there is the possibility that they didn't want to lay off people during the holiday season, however, that never bothered them before.

So my intuition is telling me that they are deliberately trying to tank this economy to the point of no return to make Obama look like a failure in his first one hundred days on the job. They don't care about our economy because they got theirs and probably already moved the majority of their assets overseas already. It's just a matter of getting the brain dead Freepers to follow them, by getting them all worried about abortion and the usual distractions and it looks like this is what is starting to happen. Anybody else getting this sense? Astrologers what do the stars tell you about this first hundred days?

If I were doing a reading for Obama, I would advise him to drop the olive branches for the time being and start using his capital and power, which he has plenty of right now, putting these obstructionists on the back burner where they belong. He needs to nationalize the banks pronto and then advise Congress to pass the stimulus package without delay or expect his veto pen to be very active over their favorite pork and earmarks in the future. He can do that. Now is not the time for partisan politics. The nation must be saved and by default his Presidency. I would advise him to set aside Lincoln for now and start reading some Franklin D. Roosevelt and study his presidency and what worked and what didn't.

[Idylle Moon Dancer]

1. I think you are correct

please let him get the message

or something better for the highest good

[Delphinus]

2. Your first paragraph

outlines everything correctly. Based upon that, I think we all need to rethink the way our world is working. Capitalism and unfettered economic growth is not working - our planet cannot sustain it. We're here, with all this falling around us, to make a change. Does anyone have ideas on how we can instead of rebuild, build anew?

(I know, somewhat off-topic in this forum, but this idea has been running around in my head for months now.)

[Cleita]

4. There are things we can do at a local and community level, however, unless

we secede from the federal government, they are very much a part of our lives. Secession of some states wouldn't work anyway because it could start a new civil war and even if we succeeded in forming a new and liberal nation, we would be always be wary of the smaller but still powerful USA, much like Mexico and Canada are with us today. We need to fix the union ourselves and we need to make our reps listen to us once and for all. Civil unrest is the biggest stick we have, but the one most Americans are very reluctant to use. So if we don't get the numbers to scare our elected representatives into doing our will like they are supposed to, they seem to be comfortable in ignoring us.

[MagickMuffin]

3. The rethuglicons have been making it clear that they WANT the Obama Admin to FAIL

because it will hurt their electoral chances in 2010.

Of course that would seem to hurt the American people more than the Obama Admin. I think Obama should hold a press conference to inform the American people that the rethuglicons are working against the stimulus plan, because the R's are worried more about future elections for their party, instead of American workers.

Bipartisanship never works when it comes to the rethuglicons. They ALWAYS want only what is in their best interest and not what is good for the country.

[FirstLight]

5. as much as i share your fears about this...

AND as much as I want this whole economic thing to turn around.

i think it may be doomed anyway because the restructuring needs for there to be some BIG shakedowns, so to speak.

The old systems are NOT going to hold power, that means banks, credit card companies, ALL of it. Remember how big and how long the tendrils of negative energy people like the carlyle group, etc have...it is going AWAY...

The way we do business and LIVE our day to day lives is going to be a result of this shift and peak oil, etc. We are looking toward SUSTAINABILITY - on all lveles of existence. Community gardens and investments in people, rather than things will be the norm. Think LOVCAL baby, it will be the smallest economy that works globally we will ever see.
SO if all this is shifting, shouldn't it be crumbling a bit.
No matter who does it - the dark and shadow because it is being stubborn or the light to make way for the new...
EVERYTHING still changes

and we have eachother to hold onto as it happens

[Why Syzygy]

6. The forecasts

I've read, and maybe most notably Nancy's, though I can't remember exactly, indicate that we will not see the worst until June this year. That's five more months of downward motion until there's a pause.

Just reporting.

[Why Syzygy]

7. OT

Cleita .. are you feeling any quakes? I just read something on google news, and am off now to get more info.

[Cleita]

8. Not recently in several months. ???

My area is quake free for a week according to this map.

http://quake.usgs.gov/recenteqs/

[Fire Walk With Me]

9. Oil prices/shortages were used to damage Carter, and the 2006 and 2008 elections.

Watch them go down before 2006 and 2008, then start going back up. Who knows how high they'll go again, but consider it a purposeful stranglehold ala what Enron did in California to oust the Governor.

Consider the concept behind "Springtime for Hitler". Making money through creating failure. The destruction of the country serves Republican purposes. They've got all that tax money we gave them eight years to take (all they wanted), so economic hard times will not effect them whatsoever.

I will be keeping very close watch on what Obama does (or does not do) regarding the "Patriot Act" and the Military-Industrial Complex.

Shrug...

[elleng]

10. Thoughts here:

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/McCamy%20Taylor/367

[dbt]

11. My intuition on this:

Cleita, I feel that you are dead on about efforts to obstruct President Obama and even, to a large degree, deliberately tank the economy. This latter action will be taken so that a few of what I call Corporate Masters (those who own some "lawmakers" body and soul) can suck the few remaining millions out of the economy and hole up offshore while the rest of the world (populated only by the "little people") crumbles.

But I am getting something else very strongly: The old weapons and tactics will not work against Obama. Underneath that calm, thoughtful exterior the man is made of Titanium. He will engage and seek the opinions of the Republicans and the DINOs. He will reach out to them, but should they bite the hand that's trying to involve them, he will bite back. And it will be vicious. I think this peaceful man understands the military doctrine of Overwhelming Force and will not hesitate to use it when all other options fail; I don't see him spending a lot of time wringing his hands.

AND...he has a weapon that the Media Borg and opposing politicians are not aware of because it is so far outside their experience. President Barack Hussein Obama (I like saying that to chap a bunch of asses on the "Right") will be able to take his case directly to the people via the Internet any time he needs to, thus bypassing Congress. The Internet is way more powerful than Radio or Television, as amply demonstrated by the unprecedented amounts of cash it yielded during the campaign.

I think the man plays chess.

[Psychic Consortium]

12. You are 100% correct on all points. nt

[BlueIris]

13. The idea that the right (via corp media) is trying to make things as hard as it can

for Obama is coming in strong for me. Especially because even our local media is screaming about the economic crisis.

[Psychic Consortium]

14. Obama is several steps ahead of them.

He will not be defeated.
America will not perish from this earth.

(See dbt's post above as well.)

Obama is having a bit of fun right now.
He is giving his opponents enough rope to hang themselves.
And they will.

[Fire Walk With Me]

19. I was wondering if he chose Warren for the Inauguration prayer on purpose

to put something bigoted into the national spotlight, where it would begin to wither, or change its ways.

I do have to say that I am greatly impressed with the lever he placed upon Rush Limbaugh recently. There is a great deal of power there (which is partly why I don't fully trust Obama, yet), and it has him squealing.

[Psychic Consortium]

24. Obama's strategies

Obama is utilizing very simple, but extremely effective strategies.
These strategies are confusing to us because we are not used to them.
They are simple, ingenuous, unique and will be very successful.
These techniques come very easily to Obama and are second nature to him.

You are correct, the inherent power is overwhelming to think about.
But PC assures you that Obama is about public service, about doing good.
This is true down to the DNA level of his body and to the core of his soul. It can be no other way for him.

[Fire Walk With Me]

26. Thank you.

[MrMickeysMom]

20. You know, I used the rope description earlier in another thread-

I think it's true, what you said.

The interesting human thing about experiencing this (call it a chess game) seems to be the experience of seeing the old, useless, dark and destructive school of thought hang itself. It's all in the INTENT of the person(s). I see Obama's intent directed to the solution and I see/feel that it is good.

I've been experiencing the other side as only I can in this lifetime. Is it my preference to see it that way and say these things? Or, am I getting better at recognizing good intent?

:-)

[Psychic Consortium]

23. The energy on this planet has shifted.

You are quite correct on many counts.

The old destructive school of thought is currently hanging itself as you say.

A very karmic time. Intent and behavior are very important.

We saw it in McCain's campaign. And we will continue to see others who (sad to see) make fools of themselves. It will be especially humiliating for them in light of the fact Obama will give them every opportunity to align themselves on the side of success, and yet they keep rejecting that offer.

Obama is a genius, psychic, and divinely inspired. He is also moral to the core, a true public servant, and temperamentally stable. A very good combination. He has a strong mental picture in his head of the map ahead of him.

And yes many are becoming more psychic, and recognizing their abilities.

[MrMickeysMom]

27. Interesting about Obama...

I have to ask you how you would think him psychic? I mean, if truth is known, I have this ability with my husband almost on a daily basis, but I can't assess Obama.

Are you able to assess that ability in him? If so, I'm fascinated!

(P.S. I find more need to migrate/postlurk to this group especially because of the usual suspects who get on my nerves from other group threads!)

[Psychic Consortium]

29. Obama's abilities

The Psychic Consortium is a group of spiritual clairvoyants.
We use our psychic abilities to gather the information we publish.

We can see that Obama is psychic, perhaps he is not clearly conscious of this skill. Currently he appears to assume that the mental pictures in his head are shared by most, or perhaps he sees them as part of his extraordinary intelligence. He is a genius, with exceptional social and political acumen, but he is psychic as well. We only see about 30% of his overall talent.

[MrMickeysMom]

32. You have my attention to stay tuned here...

Personally, I appreciate what comes out of other people. I don't doubt it's possible. I just hope you continue to post here.

[Fire Walk With Me]

33. These are also a cluster of months detailing shadow purging.

I for one am glad to get rid of more of my old and come closer to the light.

[Fire Walk With Me]

34. All this talk of chess and entrapment confuses me.

"...Except you be converted, and become as little
children, you shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.".

Ascension is about simplicity, about joy. When I hear talk which reminds me of lynch mobs, I wonder what is going on. Wouldn't enough light in and of itself turn the tide in the same manner, instead of using the old against the old? Entrapment..."Do what we say or else". That's old. That itself, is the problem. I have real problems with bullies and liars, and those who engage in very negative actions and justify it to themselves.

I get confused as to who is love-based, and who is not.

Edit for spelling.

[Psychic Consortium]

15. Obama is also changing the political process.

He is showing politicians, and the public, what it means to be a public servant.

Serving the public should not be a blood sport.

It is about service, commitment, loyalty to the country, intelligence and morality. Serving all, not just the few.

Obama will be successful.

[Silver Gaia]

28. It's good to see you posting again, PC.

Your posts always lift my spirits. Thanks. :)

[Grateful for Hope]

39. His choices

PC, I do not understand this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8155647

What happened here?

[eilen]

16. I believe it is a planned strategy of the right to stonewall him like they

did with Clinton.

It will blow up in their faces. Wait for Mercury to go direct, nothing will pass before that. It is all about delays and screwed up communication. On CNN they actually had a person saying that Americans don't want the stimulus package and the Rebublicans were listening to their constituents. She was talking about two different things since Americans have no idea all that is included in the stimulus package and I betchya the Republican senators have not read the over 600 page legislation yet. Arguing against something requires no research.

My personal wish is for it to blow up in Limbaugh's face and he loses his show or at least Armed Forces Radio and a bunch of markets. The guy send out the most hideous thought forms. I beg my friends to talk their parents out of listening. It is a mean thing to do to old people, subjecting them to Rush 3 hours a day.

[eilen]

17. I was wrong, it did pass...

I almost wish it had been delayed. Contracts and big decisions are not good during merc retros because the information is unclear. Well, it is interesting not one republican voted yes on it. Not a one. Most of the "dirty dozen" are from Southern states except for the one from PA.

[Why Syzygy]

18. Maybe Obama won't sign it until next week.

The Senate still has to vote, right?

[eilen]

21. thats true, it has to go to the senate

and then it goes to committee where they make a bunch of changes and then pass it back down to the house.

[Callie McAllie]

25. The senate has a bill of there own

which they have yet to pass (and that will be a struggle). Then the conference committee has to hammer out the difference between the two bills. Not sure if it will go to a house or a senate conference committee. Trust me, they will never get this done before February 1.

[Callie McAllie]

22. It's not done yet. It only passed the house.

It still has to get through the Senate and be signed by the President to take effect. I don't expect that will happen until after February 1.

[Psychic Consortium]

30. The Republicans are making a very big mistake.

Because Obama is polite, gracious, and civil, they assume that he is weak. They could not be more mistaken.

The future of the Republican party is like looking at a train wreck about to happen. But alas it is a self-inflicted wound.

If they are at all smart and wish to survive as a party, they must unclench their fists and accept the olive branch extended to them.

If not, they will they will end up humiliating themselves in a way that will be hard to repair.

[Why Syzygy]

31. We can hope.

It would be quite fitting for their last gasp to have been forcing Bush on our nation. They squandered any power they had when they gave it to the thieves. I don't for a second believe Bush is concerned at all about the party he manipulated and used. I was struck by how many congresscritters and others have tried to make us believe that he was a "GOOD MAN" after his departure from office. Elephant poop stains. You can't just sweep it up. In order to be a "GOOD MAN", one must DO something "good". Bush never has. Never in his life.

[Fire Walk With Me]

35. I have a general question about such things.

I'm attempting to be of service in a particular community, yet feel definite resistance to so doing. I'm just trying to maintain my own space and security in order to get to the next level, and to do what is written through it all. At what point do people begin minding their own business and stop interfering with those who are simply attempting to maintain their own boundaries and security, and let them actually DO the right thing? I have real problems with this sort of thing, and am learning to let it pass by, but a stampede is a stampede, and generally does not concern itself with any level of actual insight or perspective.

[Why Syzygy]

36. Here's something that might interest you...

I do not vouch for this site. I subscribe to the RSS feed because I read something useful at some time. I happened to read part of the latest installment, and at least this part resonates. As for the rest of the material on the site, I have no opinion.

Snipped.. (emphasis added)

The genuine positive path is one of strength, practicality, discernment, understanding, balance, and gnosis. Gnosis is higher spiritual intelligence, which manifests in its lowest form as objective intuition1. It allows for inner revelation of profound insights and direct recognition of truths buried in external sources of information. It stays beyond the reach of disinformation because it supersedes both intellect and lower emotions, and is thus invulnerable to emotional manipulation and logical fallacies. This ability to intuitively or clairvoyantly tap into higher understanding is the main catalyst for spiritual evolution because it guides one toward truth and alerts one to deception and error.

The positive path results in the fulfillment of individual potential, making one all the more effective on both the physical and metaphysical planes. It optimizes one’s ability to serve the spiritual well-being and evolution of others and thereby facilitate the divine purpose of Creation.

“Positive” and “negative” are not mere subjective terms, rather they follow directly and logically from some fundamental facts of our existence:

1) humans and aliens are conscious beings with freewill,
2) freewill leads to independence and individuality,
3) individuals interact with themselves, the world, and each other,
4) interaction between individuals modifies their consciousness,
5) freewill determines whether the modification is growth or suppression.

Since freewill allows the choice between assisting or suppressing the consciousness and freewill of others, there are consequently:

a) beings who serve the entire system by expanding their consciousness and freewill in balance with the expansion of consciousness and freewill in others, and

b) beings who serve only themselves at the cost of suppressing the freewill and consciousness of others to the detriment of the entire system.

This essentially defines the positive and negative paths. The positive path preserves balance by maximizing freewill in the system, the other creates imbalance by diminishing the freewill of others through the use of force, deception, and assimilation; the first advances self by also advancing others, the second advances self at the detriment of others.

The only reason the negative path can continue to exist at all without immediate entropic disintegration is because it functions as a parasitic Ponzi Scheme where a hierarchy of predators depends on perpetual influx of new recruits and resources to keep from starving and imploding. Earth has become the recruitment and feeding grounds for one such hierarchy.

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http://montalk.net/alien/152/discerning-alien-disinformation-part-6

[Fire Walk With Me]

37. Thank you, I like that, and I like your new username as well!

Congrats.

That's good information, I'll check out the page and site later today.

I am in fear, and don't know how to move forward into greater truth. Honesty gets me trouble, as does doing nothing. The clarity is appreciated.

[Why Syzygy]

38. Without knowing any particulars

of what you are dealing with, generally, from this material, I would take it to mean that if the people you are trying to serve are into denying your free will, their motivation is to enslave you. All YOUR free will gives you is the decision to advance free will for all (yourself included) or not. Real simple, huh. Never thought of it that way, which is why I enjoyed reading this.