Risky posting - Persuasion and Brainwashing Techniques Being Used On The Public Today

[crikkett]

I think this is a risky post for me because I don't IN ANY WAY want y'all to think that I'm a mole from the R/T forum. A basic tenant of my own moral code is to respect others' spirituality.

However my life experience makes me feel that open eyes and open minds are more difficult to delude and so I bring you This Random Guy on the Internet, who is just about as credible as any other random guy evangelizing whatever point of view they're beholden to.

Persuasion and Brainwashing Techniques Being Used On The Public Today
http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world_order/mind_control/battle_for_your_mind.htm

I hope this increases our awareness.

This Random Guy starts off bashing organized religion with particular zeal (which I try to understand and forgive) but then moves on to other methods used both over public airwaves and in person with subliminal cues or interesting equipment.

I used to have this tagline, "magic is just math you don't understand" and I turned it off because I didn't want to offend people by suggesting they're (as) bad at math (as I am). I'm reminded of that maxim more and more, especially as I read more about behavior modification methods and brain function.

For example, I secretly suspect that we were all under a weird spell at 9/11 -- lulled into submission beforehand, and then shocked into compliance afterwards. Who knows, I sure don't. But reading the brainwashing article's description of the effects ELF had on test subjects deepens my suspicion that I may be right.

There's another thread in this forum that prompted me to post this article (which I had better do so I can get back to work) about weird anxiety... it may not just be planetary alignments... :tinfoilhat:

[TNOE]

1. I think you are right

I remember my mother really freaking out on 9/11 (as did so many people),but I didn't "freak out" about it. I think that was the whole purpose of the media to show the planes crashing into the buildings over and over and over. It had a purpose other than just to "inform". And of course, then the 'fear' card was played relentlessly. I also think that there are many subliminal messages in commercials.

A weird thing Friday night - I was so sleepy and knew I would be dropping off soon - and there was nothing on TV and I wanted to stay on the couch because I loved the cool breeze coming in through the patio door - so I turned on Faux Noise to see what they were saying (which i haven't done in a very long time, don't feel like I need to know anymore) - and I dreamt of shopping and eating. I never dream like that. Just thought it was weird.

Now, since I commented, I will check back and actually read the article.

[midnight]

2. Facinating.... I could only think about this information in two ways.

One is that this certainly does match the way our police and Judicial system is set up. The second being that, I'm so glad that T.V. is limited in my household.

[Callie McAllie]

3. I can't get too worked up about this

I'm sure it's true, but I just don't seem to care. ;)

[I Have A Dream]

4. This is really good stuff, crikkett.

Thank you so much for posting it.

[Bluestar]

5. Hi Crikkett

Dick Sutphen is not really just a "random guy". He is a very accomplished hypnotist and past life regressionist and has been around for years. I have done many seminars with him and he taught me his hypnosis technique. He has great energy and I trust that he is giving you his absolute studied opinion, based on lots of research over the years. I believe that he wrote this paper in the 1980's. At the time, the fundamentalist Christians were after him to try and shut down his operation as they did many other new age authors and seminar leaders. I think he wrote this to expose who they are and what they are about.

Many of us now are aware of who they are and what they try to do to new-agers, probably thanks to his sounding the alarm. If you google "Dick Sutphen" you will find his website with a lot of his writing and hypnosis products.

Thanks for posting this--reminds me to look him and and find out what he is up to.

[crikkett]

6. Thanks very much, I didn't know who he was.

Or if someone was posting in his name.

[rosesaylavee]

7. I have been aware of this...

Interesting story .... my pastor is a registered hypnotherapist. We had a viewing of a movie on the environment last fall at our church that she greatly objected to because of the hypnotic techniques used in the film - whether intentionally or not. Many, including me, felt after viewing the film that it was too late to address our environmental crisis, that we were well beyond the point of any good ever coming from any actions, that we were in essence doomed to watch our planet die a very terrible death along with everyone we know. Happy little flick.

Always good to know our vulnerability and to understand at all times that we have choices on what we believe and how we respond to information.

Thanks for posting.

[crikkett]

11. Wow, I guess environmentalists have their own version of

fire and brimstone.

But consider, the Pentagon admitted that it burns something like 10 million barrels of oil in a month these days (I heard on a radio show that it was 18 Mil but google sez otherwise).

That is a whole lot of dirt to throw up in the air & poison us all with it.

[rosesaylavee]

13. Not sure if I am just a glutton for mental pain, I bought the DVD of the program

because of the good information it provided. It was just that it was relentlessly outlining EVERYTHING for well over an hour of how bad things are. It opened my eyes and after I recovered from the deep depression it sent me into, I resolved to do my part and perhaps more to get us to the next level. It was their technique and their underlying message that all was lost that she objected to...

I don't even know if the group that made the video understood why the effect was so strong on people... I do think it was just how they made it to get people motivated to do something rather than wait for the govt or some group or some saving entity other than them to take care of it.

I haven't watched the program since I bought it. The images are still emblazoned on my brain... but I have it in case I forget.

[Why Syzygy]

15. The planet will not die.

It may change due to orbital changes. The people living on it are much more disposable than the PLANET.
I'm sorry people feel that way. When I was in the fundie camp there was a trend to do nothing because JESUS was going to burn it all up anyway. Do you mind mentioning the name of the film?

[southerncrone]

8. crikkett, this is not just "some random guy"

Dick Sutphen is one of the leaders of the New Age movement & has been for 30+ years.

http://www.dicksutphen.com/

http://contacttalkradio.com/hosts/dicksutphen.htm

[cliss]

9. Re: subliminal persuasion.

Hi, crickett. NO I don't believe this is a 'taboo' or risqué subject. It needs to be brought up, and in more places than just our little corner here at the DU.

I believe the US public is being subjected to a variety of techniques, to coerce them to buy, or purchase, or believe, or whatever their agenda might be.
As if ads aren't bad enough, there is proof that even within programs, people have discovered that in-between the flickering frames, there are subliminal messages like 1/50th of a second, which exhort the viewer to "buy this" or "you need this" they have used all kinds of techniques.

TV - sinister.
We got rid of our TV back in 2001. It wasn't because of this reason, but because I couldn't look at Bush's face any longer. It was just too much for me.
Our lives have improved I now have all kinds of time....to blog!!
TV - an addictive quality.
Seriously, you can almost tell which people are addicted to TV. Over time, they become lethargic, more passive. I believe that TV is the biggest venue for subliminal stuff, hypnotism and all kinds of bad stuff.

Too effective.
I also believe the subliminal stuff has been SO successful, SO persuasive that you have a country at risk. You have a weakened population which has been fooled for decades. They will gladly part with their hard-earned money, just Cuz the Ad told me so. These are extremely smart people; you have PhD's who specialize in how to motivate people, even colours, cues, shame & guilt coercion they've spent millions and done tons of studies on how to motivate the Sheep. This also includes political messages; as well as fear mongering.

What's the solution?
Actually, we are already looking at the solution to the problem. The end is in sight. The American public is currently broke, they've been looted and there's no more dough to shake out of the poor bloke. ONLY when people are desperate, when the whole system is broken, THEN they will start to look elsewhere for an answer.
We are at that Golden Moment.

[stellanoir]

10. That's why I came up for a term for it prior to 9/11.

I called it "oligarchical hypnogogary". That's a made up term. But if * gets to make up facts, so do I.

So there.

[crikkett]

12. Ha, I thought Rumsfeld made that up. He's certainly the expert.

I've heard the term before. Prob. from you!

-c

[Fire Walk With Me]

14. Look at the ingredients in your food and drink to get one perspective.

This is a dupe post from another forum, but the point stands.

Modified corn starch, high fructose corn syrup, dextrose, maltose, sucrose, lactose, etc. Even "sugar-free" sweeteners like Equal are pure dextrose, which is sugar.

We're being drugged on many levels. Much less the active manipulations...

"We don't want to control your mind. We just want to control your inclinations." -Shadoevision

"This is not mind control (think about it)." -Shadoevision

Ever see 9/12 Weeks? That's a control technique. Invade every facet of anothers' existence so that they have associative thoughts of you all the time. At least two "spiritual" authors have used this technique; beware of those who take the time to have a comment upon anything and everything. Their comments will come to mind in association with the subject, when that subject comes up again. Insidious.