Whoa: Thoughts anyone?!?!

[hippiechick]

from www.cainer.com - who tends to be a fairly reliable astrologer. At least, he seems to have my number.

"I still haven't had a good look at Comet Swan but I have heard from my fellow astrologers who have been plotting its path and interpolating its position to give us a zodiacal reference point for interpretive purposes. This, according to Ptolemy (c. 150AD) is the traditional way to establish what a comet portends. We have looked to see which fixed stars it will come close to soon. My colleague Bernard Fitzwalter notes a conjunction to Vega; the political star. Comets usually herald an 'ending'. He thinks we may see the demise of a world leader within a few months."


:wow:

[bliss_eternal]

1. Wow--that IS big...!

I wonder who?...and how? :scared:

[hippiechick]

2. My initial thought was that its symbolic ?

.. the beginning of the end of Dimson's reign of terror if the Dems sweep in the elections next week?

But ... who knows ? :shrug:

[mother earth]

3. Let's not forget Saddam is insisting he wants either the death

penalty or a return to power. That just might play out before the elections.

I prefer your take, Hippiechick....envisioning overwhelming support for a return to democracy. Cheney did have that shredding company doing his bidding recently, perhaps
they know the jig is up. :) :) :)

[bliss_eternal]

5. Oh wow...did Saddam say that?!

I haven't been following his situation for several months now. I got frustrated with the msm coverage of his court shenanigans and just stopped watching. So this is the first I've heard. Wow. I almost feel badly for Saddam. He's evil, and completely off his nut but it seems there had to be another way to deal with him. :shrug: Well, probably not...

[Cleita]

6. He's supposed to be sentenced right before the election.

How's that for timing.

[mother earth]

9. His attorney said that....it is Saddam's wish, he is not afraid to

die. We surely know he won't see a return to power & yes can you believe the audacity to sentence him before the election? How incredibly transparent is that???

[bliss_eternal]

13. Agreed....

completely transparent. Nice to know that if nothing else, the right is consistent. ;) LOL!

[hippiechick]

8. Seriously ? A shredding company ?

OMG, if there was any way to get a 'disgruntled employee' from that company to have accidentally NOT shredded a bunch of stuff ...

:wow:

[mother earth]

10. Seriously....I think I read it on Raw Story or HuffPo. If I find it

again I'll post it, or if someone here does perhaps they'll do the same.

[crikkett]

17. yeppers! a shredder in a tractor-trailer pulled into the VP's home on 10/30

how's that for balls.
BTW he was ordered to produce visitor logs by a judge. I think 11/1 was his deadline to comply.
I will look it up!

[MorningGlow]

21. Bummer reversal on the visitor logs

Court Blocks Order To Identify Cheney's Visitors

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2592387

:wtf:

These assholes are made of teflon.

No, scratch that--they are adept at threatening the lives of everyone who tries to hold them accountable. Yeppers, they're goin' ta hell. And I don't even believe in hell, but for them, I'll make an exception.

[crikkett]

19. found story on wonkette

(from http://www.wonkette.com/politics/dick-cheney/shreddin-with-dick-211028.php )
Quoting:
Spotted on 10/19, by an eagle-eyed Wonkette reader: The Mid-Atlantic Shredding Services truck making its way up to the Cheney compound at the Naval Observatory.

Fun fact: Mid-Atlantic Shredding Services has been contracted by the Secret Service for our Executive Branch’s record-not-keeping needs.

"The present contractor providing Pickup & Destruction of Sensitive Waste Material services is Mid Atlantic Shredding Services and the current rate is $0.095 cents per lbs."

You better get crackin’, Dick — that evidence won’t destroy itself!

AAAAANNNNDDDD....
Here's the article from 10/19 saying Dick must turn over his visitor logs
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2570070

[bliss_eternal]

4. Ah good point! I hadn't considered that...

but it's definitely a way we could look at it. It very well could be symbolic. This is going to be interesting, don't you think?

What are the other astrology sites that we get reports from (on this admin.) saying? Or have they weighed in yet?

[Cleita]

7. A demise doesn't have to be death but the ending of power

for a regime. It could mean that if we kick the neo-cons out during the election, it will be a matter of time before the Bush administration will either be impeached, tried and sentenced, or they might resign seeing the handwriting on the wall. I still want them put on trial though. I don't think they should get away with walking into the sunset like Richard Nixon did.

[mother earth]

11. You know what, Cleita, we not only have to envision serious

justice, we have to feel it happening with every fiber of our being & it will manifest. Aren't you the one who suggested we do a group thing before the election, or was it someone else?

[Cleita]

12. I did say something about it but I wasn't the only one.

I have been trying to ask the universe for certain results in the election. All of us should I think.

[stellanoir]

20. A bunch of us have been kicking around the idea of group think. . .

Towards the end of this thread, I addressed one possible approach.

But I've posted it on some other threads as well.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=245x29524

Am still ruminating over how to focus the idea for GD but I intend to do so by the full moon this weekend.

[Why Syzygy]

37. This has been the worst

full moon I have EVER experienced. Fulls are usually so beneficial. Though I really dig the New Moon probably more.

This one just seemed to bring on so much confusion. And it could be the Taurus influence.
My son is a Taurus and the longest running roommate I ever had is as well. I learned this. Take 'no' for the answer and step aside. Eventually they will show back up and say, 'oh that might not be a bad idea after all'. They are soooo slow on the uptake. Do not try to rush a Bull. You'll be standing in mud and mud pies for the rest of your days. They need a lot of back off space. It isn't all that bad once you get used to it, and have time to sit around twiddling thumbs.

That's exactly what this Full Moon has been about. The blankety stubbornness of Taurus! They (it) is not about to give you an answer until he has had all the time in the world to ponder and snort and paw at the earth a bit. And you are just as likely to get a wedding invitation the day before the wedding, but goddess forbid that you don't have anything to wear! No problem for the steamy Taurien. He's full steam. Aren't you? No. I was left breathless in Seattle. But he's half way round the world by now.

I'm a lazy cat. I don't sleep in the path of the Bull (headed). Wow. I never felt this intense about a Full Moon.

IOW . this is going to be a tough Full Moon to work with. At least from my angle. Makes me think that the polls are going to be hard to ascertain. That can be okay. Take their time. Just don't let any idiots take the polling machines home with them!

[bliss_eternal]

14. ...or being celebrated as heroes...

like reagan. :eyes: The way they've deified that man really galls me. Was he not a criminal, too?

[Cleita]

15. He is only a god among those who think he is one.

I know the rest of us have to put up with the party in power using him as a tool and as an icon. History will judge him differently.

[bliss_eternal]

16. I hope you're right, Cleita...

I was stunned after his death to see and hear all the praise for him and his administration. I understand some of that is natural after anyone passes on, but it seemed rather over the top, considering some of his other "acts" while in office. (Iran-Contra comes to mind). :eyes:

It went on for weeks. I avoided the major news channels like the plague. :(

[Why Syzygy]

38. Don't know about criminal.

Unless you count the destruction of our economy. That was a big one and we still pay the price.

[cassiepriam]

31. Perhaps the Monday before election day we could pray

and meditate as a group. Just anytime that day that
any of us can do something.

[BlueIris]

18. Uhhhh, in order to stay compliant with DU rules, I will ambiguously add:

I've been saying that this is inevitable for...someone at about this point in time for...a while. Some bloggers are predicting that it's going to happen much sooner than the "within a few months" timeframe. Sometimes, I'm shocked that someone has made it this far.

To me, all it means it that Bush is going to escape any semblance of punishment for his crimes...at least in this world. As cassiepriam has pointed out--the divine entities are going to have a few things to say when they finally get their hands on him.

[SouthernBelle82]

35. I beg to differ

I don't claim to know when because we don't know that since in the spiritual realms they don't know time so it's hard for them to say when they relate messages to us. I don't think Bush is going to get away with his crimes here or in the spiritual realms with God and the powers that be. I was once told by Lady Hecatee that the powers that be want Bush to take responsibility for once in his life.

[Marie26]

22. Comet Swan

I don't know anything about astrology, but I just wanted to post a photo of this comet. It's really beautiful.

[hippiechick]

24. That IS gorgeous!

:applause: Thanks!

[Delphinus]

25. Thank you!

New screen saver coming up!

[stellanoir]

27. woh

awe inspiring and thanks for posting.

[SouthernBelle82]

36. Wow I like that

Thank you for posting. I like that. I am now using this as my desktop.

[Why Syzygy]

39. Me too!

Feel the power. The Swan name makes me sad.

[lildreamer316]

42. Oh, wow!

Thanks for posting...how beautiful!

[japple]

23. Castro, maybe. I heard on the news that films were shown on Cuban TV

but I don't think Castro has been seen in public since his surgery.

[MorningGlow]

26. That was my first thought when I opened this thread n/t

[davsand]

28. He was on TV a week recently.

He was on TV just within the last week or so. They were talking about the fact that it was the first time he'd been out since the surgery...


Found this one on Google:

http://www.ain.cubaweb.cu/idioma/ingles/2006/nov01fidelfelicita.htm


Along with this one:

http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cctimes/news/15883870.htm



I kind of liked this one:

Fidel Castro called rumors of his demise “laughable”


Cuban TV aired a record showing Fidel Castro after rumors of his demize started to circulate. On the video, the Comandante himself calls the rumors “laughable” and says: “We'll see what they will say now”. The Cuban leader in the broadcast got up without anybody's help and walked in his hospital room, and read fresh papers' issues, BBC reported.

Castro promised that he will surely get well, remarking though that that might take time, and the risk still remains. “Now when my foes have prematurely announced me to be dying or dead, I am glad to address to my compatriots and friends all over the world this short video message,” Castro said

Last time, a record showing Fidel Castro was shown in September. In October, reports of president of Cuba's having cancer uprose. Castro's younger brother Raul, however, disproved the information.

On August 13, Comandante celebrated his 80th anniversary.


http://www.regnum.ru/english/729947.html



Laura

[crikkett]

29. Reminds me of Mark Twain: "rumors of my demise are greatly exaggerated"

Cuban TV aired a record showing Fidel Castro after rumors of his demize started to circulate. On the video, the Comandante himself calls the rumors “laughable” and says: “We'll see what they will say now”. The Cuban leader in the broadcast got up without anybody's help and walked in his hospital room, and read fresh papers' issues, BBC reported.

On Edit:

I also saw in a documentary that Mark Twain was born under a comet and died under a comet.

[Why Syzygy]

40. Your kitty sig line

is very sweet.

My kitty is not happy with me tonight. There are neighborhood cats who come in the front door, which I most often leave open, and get his food. He still has plenty to eat, of course. But now that I understand he is so insulted, I won't let that happen again.

[Angel Wings]

30. Hey ,thanks for posting about this site!!!

It's a great site! I love his soothing voice and he seems to be right on the mark for me too. The taro reading was really great also.

Thanks a lot !!!:D


Oh, and as for the demise of a world leader...hmmm... I guess time will tell.

[Angel Wings]

32. hmmm...yup, sounds like it's Saddam

Although, I have a controversial view that that's not really Saddam. I saw a news report around the time when they were talking about going to war before it was decided. They were talking about the look alikes Saddam employed through the years. They showed one and they said the resemblance was uncanny but you could tell them apart by concentrating on the facial features. The look alike had a narrow face were the real Saddam had a more round face. Then, they showed both of them and when you noticed the shape of the faces, you could see the difference.

Even the mannerisms are so different to me. I remember seeing an interview with him and he was very cool and squinty or sleepy eyed. Not, like the guy in the court room, bug eyed and kinda buffoony. I don't think any time in a well would change a person that completely. Oh, well that's just me. :)

[suziedemocrat]

33. Amazing! I hadn't even thought of that.

But you're right, it could be a look alike at the trial. Amazing.

[lildreamer316]

43. Neither did I (think of that)

Duh.
It would not suprise me at all.
Very interesting........we shall see, maybe...

ON EDIT: OH MY GOD.

(pleeeese excuse my yelling; it just now all jelled for me!!Shit!!)

ROVE AND CO PLANNED THIS FROM THE START!!
I bet part of the deal was a pay-off of Saddam so he would allow the invasion and takeover. Then,he dissapears and his double is found and brought to justice. He is off somewhere with a TON of money from HALLIBURTON & others. Halliburton and etc. wanted the oil = PNAC wanted the oil and/or the Saudis (not sure yet how they figure in exactly other than the ties to Bush family). Bush may be out of the loop possibly,because his need to get Saddam for revenge for his father was a good way to manipulate him; or he may be in on it--but I don't think so.
Wonder if this guy knew he was gonna be the patsy.
I know it's tin-foil-hattery, but things that come to me in a flash like this--I tend to trust them. Of course we'll never know really.
Oh. My. God.

[Angel Wings]

46. EXACTLY!!!!

From what I sensed from the guy is that he could be bought but the price would have to be very high. He also loves power and wouldn't stop at being diabolical to get it, much like the bushies and cohorts. Therefore, I believe that this could be much bigger than just Saddam chillin with some money someplace beautiful-like maybe a piece of the pie after they’re world domination plans succeeded.

Now, why would a guy allow himself to go through a trial and possible death in place of someone else? This was a stumbling block for me too until I read Matthew's messages, which was the only other place I found that shared my view. He says they pulled off the impersonator scheme because they made this guy believe that he really was Saddam. Hmmm….made sense to me. Because, I know this government has all sorts of ways of doing all sorts of things.

I have another controversial view that bush is not that stupid, yeah he’s really stupid, but he is definitely aware of, allows and pursues the treacheries his administration has and is doing. I do believe that others come up with the plans but he willingly follows and contributes to the script. Building him up to be unaware of things and his people doing things without him is the safety card they play so that when things do come to light, intentionally or unintentionally, people won’t revolt in the streets.

Also, bush and his administration seem to be all about perceptions not what is actually real. The perception is that he went in and got Saddam after all the questions about why his father didn't kill him when he had the chance. Now, Saddam has been tried and soon to die. This may be enough for him if his intentions really were to show up his dad or revenge for him.

Well, thats how I've been seeing it. There's a lot of layers and levels to this rabbit hole.

[suziedemocrat]

47. I can't see Saddam allowing his two sons to be killed though.

Either they did that to scare him into submission, or maybe they weren't actually killed. The pictures of the corpses did look pretty CSI fake????????????

[lildreamer316]

48. I had that thought too..

..so again, I'm well aware of the tin foil on my head. We'll see. Not sure what to think...

[Why Syzygy]

41. I never believed

the guy they got out of the hole was the real Sadaam. He didn't live as dictator for all those years to end up stupid. I just wonder who they are going to hang. Not a very nice double job, eh?

[hippiechick]

44. Very plausible ....

... The real Saddam Hussein is probably sharing a hammock & some fruity cocktails at Club Med with Osama, compliments of The Carlyle Group.

[I Have A Dream]

45. ...and Ken Lay. n/t

[SouthernBelle82]

34. This would seem right to me

I've been getting for the past while that the republicans will be through with. I think will see the democrats in charge at least for twelve years hopefully. A few days before the 2004 "election" I had this very strong feeling that Bush will go down and it was very clear. I also think that the democrats will at least take back the House and a slight chance to take back the Senate. Either way I still have the very strong feeling that Bush will go down and have justice and to not worry about.

[hippiechick]

49. Not really a world leader, but ... Rummy's resignation?

All over LBN this afternoon.


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