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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 05:33 PM
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I've been sent another dream...
I dreamt last night, true technicolour and clear as a bell. The dream started off with me finding myself back in College and I was taking the last few classes to finish my degree. I kept asking the people, (including the instructor), how I could be in final exams when I could NOT REMEMBER taking anything up to that point. The degree that I was being granted was in some sort of VERY advanced healing science. Everyone was looking at me as if I had grown a third arm and informed me that I was at the top of the class, academically and socially. Somehow, I aced the exam, an exam that I neither understood or even read, it was in a language AND writing system that was unlike anything I had ever seen; it wasn't Egyptian hieroglyphic, Chinese, Sumerian, Amharic, Japanese, Armenian, Geez, Arabic, Hindu, Sanskrit, Greek, Runic, Cherokee, Cyrillic, etc. Though I cannot read most of these writing forms, I can recognise them.

The next thing I know, I'm taken on a celebratory trip with an older woman how wore a white linen-like robe, with a scapular and a shawl like those worn by priests. Both the scapular and the shawl were in odd colours: Cerulean blue, Saffron Yellow on the same white background AND the colours were separated by bars of GOLD FABRIC. Not just a gold metallic fabric, BUT ACTUAL WOVEN GOLD, with threads made of the actual metal. We were going to a festival, which turned out to be a religious festival. We were riding in a bus to this festival with her daughters and other people, mostly VERY poor people but VERY sweet people. The other people on this bus, which by the way, were farmworkers, who looked hispanic. They were praying but I couldn't hear the prayer because it was as if it was muted. ALL of the people wore white. The lady was the only one who had something of colour on. The bus was also odd in that it was like a bus from the 1930's.

When we arrived at the festival, the Lady was leading us from one booth to the next. The only food available was roasted lamb on a spit with herbs, (yes, I honestly do remember this part in detail), a simple white cheese and some VERY simple pita type bread. I was led to one booth where they had crystals and something that upon waking, was EXTREMELY weird. There was another older woman in this booth and there was something that she wanted me to take advantage of. It was a DEEP luminous blue light, (it was ultraviolet light, it actually said that on the booth) and for 10.00, I was to stand in front of this DEEP BLUE beam of light and breath it in DEEPLY. Once done, would heal any and everything. Apparently, I took advantage of it and the Lady then took me to a simple wooden chapel for prayer service. I don't remember what was said other than the woman laid her shawl over me.
Then there was something going on that necessitated our hurrying to the bus. We piled back onto the bus and I distinctly remember thinking that I was going to be late getting home and that my deceased mother was going to be angry. We start going back to the Sacramento Valley, which is in the north central area of California. As we were riding, I happened to look out of the window at an Albertsons shopping center and the ENTIRE SHOPPING CENTER was under at least 25 feet of water!

I remember that the police and rescue squad had taped it off with that yellow tape and that there was a black lady who was standing on the Southwestern corner of the shopping center screaming that her daughter was in the store and that she needed to get in to get her baby. She was hysterical but the rescue people said that because there was more water coming from the foothills in a flash flood.
This was in Fresno County, I heard the name CLEARLY. We then drove on in the 70+ year old bus to Modesto and it too was flooded and there were people panicking and screaming. The Tuolumne River had completely washed out the Hwy but somehow, in this bus older than most people in the country had ABSOLUTELY no problem navigating the road, although all the other cars and trucks were slipping and sliding all over the road. The next panorama was in a fallow field, like the ones we have here between plantings which are bordered by dusty dirt roads. I saw people who were being herded by weapon wielding troops. Apparently, it was similar to a mini Walk of Tears. There were children, women, men, old young, disabled people who were hobbling along with crutches, canes and being helped by others lending their shoulders, etc. They were dressed in white clothing that was torn and streaked with dirt and blood. They apparently had gotten sick of that treatment they'd been meted and started to stand their ground. The next thing was a volley of tracer bullets fired over their heads and rockets launched at them.

The children started to panic, crying and running. The adults had had enough and started throwing anything they could at these troops who panicked, dropped their weapons and ran the other way. I know the the direction that they ran was to the east-south east, based on the mountains. I have an IMPECCABLE sense of direction. DH has always asked me to navigate for him when he has found himself lost. The troops ran away so fast that they left not only the weapons but their vehicles and you could even see the dust they threw up from the road they were on. Although I was in this old circa 1930 bus and was literally on the scene, it was as if these people, troops and hostages could not see me. Anyone understand the messages in this message? By the way, the bus was a VERY DARK, almost black-green colour. Feel free to tell me what this means.
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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 04:53 AM
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1. Kick
:kick:
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Proud_Lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 10:43 AM
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2. Your dreams seem to have incredible messages
Edited on Sat Sep-30-06 10:44 AM by Proud_Lefty
Lately, I've been reading all about the masters and the current ascension process. I'm not sure 100% certain on the details, but there is talk of the ultraviolet flame that will help us make the transition much easier. I hope I have this right since I'm just reading about it now and all of this is brand new to me. Over and over again, there is so much discussion of this world needing to be cleansed of its evil before peace and paradise can dominate around the year 2012. That cleansing is to come in the form of catastrophes, earthquakes, floods, storms, etc. Many will die, but we are asked to ride it out as close to Earth as we can for our survival. Also, the truth about humanity and world politics are expected to surface. Many will refuse to accept the truth and will be horrified how they've been misled for not only their entire lives, but for centuries.

Your dream summarizes what is to be expected and your bus' ability to navigate easily after experiencing the ultraviolet light is right on! I love the part of the people fighting back and the troops dropping their weapons and even leaving their vehicles, but I hope to God they don't try to start rounding us up like cattle. On my way to work every morning, I drive by a new detention center that has a sign in front of it saying "immigration detention". However, my friend checked out public records about it and it says its for "immigration OR terrorist" needs. They put anti-establishment (anti-war) people in this so-called terrorist category. Anyway, the parking lot has filled over the last few weeks and it looks like they are getting ready to fill it up. I try not to be gripped by fear, but it's clear something is in the works. Fear won't help us or anyone else, but awareness and preparedness will.

I'm always amazed at the depth of your dreams and insight. :hug:
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 01:05 PM
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3. People dressed in white...
my daughter in law, who has very vivid, in-tune dreams similar to yours, also dreamed of being herded with people dressed in simple white. I'm not sure what it means. She dreams of escaping pursuing government forces. This tone of people rising up is what I think may happen if the government continues to crack down inhumanely and when more elections are stolen.


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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 02:02 PM
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4. Dressed in white
I was just looking at the front page of the online edition of the Seattle Times and it had a picture of "illegal immigrants" being held at the Northwest Detention Center in Tacoma. This facility is run by Homeland Security.
Guess what? The people are wearing white. Here's a link to the page. I'm incompentent when it comes to technology so I would appreciate it if someone could post the actual photo here before the page changes. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/home/index.html
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 05:05 PM
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7. Here's the image, isos.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 05:42 PM
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8. Detainees wear white
Thanks for posting the picture, IHAD.
I just thought it was fascinating that someone had a dream about people wearing white in some kind of rebellion against the government and then seeing that HLS has detainees wear white.
Twilight Zone music, please.
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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 07:40 PM
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10. OH.MY.GOD! In Search Of Sanity,
These people are dressed EXACTLY as the ones I saw in the dream! In particular, the the lady in the foreground who is standing up next to the table. I wonder why I'm seeing this,considering the fact that the people who are picked up by the INS are dressed in white. I had NO IDEA that this was the case...Wow, just wow...
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 12:02 PM
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14. They are being held by Homeland Security
Not INS. Yes, HLS now detains illegal immigrants. HLS will undoubtedly be holding the political prisoners that the Bush regime will start arresting soon. How much you want to bet that we, excuse me, they will be issued similar white clothes?
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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 12:51 PM
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15. This is creepy, to say the least
Even the name, "Homeland Security", sounds like a nazi title. If I remember correctly, someone told me that this is EXACTLY the name that the nazis used for their version of this department. Perhaps, we're being given advance notice to be prepared and formulate plans to stop this from happening.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 02:03 PM
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5. Hi, Ecumenist
As I read this post after I read a very interesting article (which link I posted in a thread last night. I will provide here later also)
I somehow have a feeling, that what you refer to as "dream" is not, at least in part not a dream. But could it be an OBE?
It seems there are two parts in this experience.

The first is the OBE part, where you are being taken by a "teacher" on a "shamanic" initiation, which the article explains, albeit in a somewhat different context. The vivid experience, recollection etc. sounds to me a little different from common dreams we have. But then again, no one really knows what a dream is.
The second part, may be a "dream" or "vision", which may lie in a particular time zone, either in the past or the future, or an event, immediately preceding your "shamanic journey", which may all be in the future. As you know for the soul, there is no time.
You may be crossing different time zones, as your soul self, "seeing" events in different time zones.

Now, this is a part of the article, Some Evolutionary Speculations:
by Dr. Kenneth Ring

In my book Heading Toward Omega (Ring 1984), I argued that NDEs and other transcendental experiences may be serving as an evolutionary catalyst for humanity's collective psychospiritual development. I still adhere to that view, but here I'd like to extend this thesis in a new direction. That direction has already been suggested in Michael Grosso's The Final Choice (1985), where, in speaking of out-of-body experiences, he indicates that they “may represent the matrix for the next environment in the psychosocial evolution of man” (p. 102, his emphasis). I embrace that position, too, but would like to elaborate on it briefly.<6>

We now know that millions of persons have already had out-of-body experiences, NDEs, and other similar experiences (see, e.g., Rogo 1983; Gallup 1982; Hay 1982), and there are various reasons to suppose that their numbers have increased dramatically in recent years (e.g., Ferguson 1980; Russell 1983; Ring 1984). Likewise, the number of UFOEs — not just sightings — seems to be growing exponentially, too. Budd Hopkins (1987b), for example, estimates that there may be hundreds of thousands of such cases hidden among us. And shamanic journeys of one sort or another also seem to be increasingly common and commonly sought after in our contemporary world.

Altogether, we seem to be undergoing a period of mushrooming growth in the occurrence of what Carol Zaleski has called “the otherworld journey” for which the traditional shaman has long been the prototype.

If this is actually so, might it be that what we are witnessing is the beginning stages in the shamanizing of modern humanity? And what that would mean is precisely this: that humanity would be finding its way back to its true home in the realm of the imagination, where it would be liberated to live in mythic time and would no longer be strictly bound to the prison of historical time. In short, I am suggesting that in this period of apparently accelerated psychospiritual evolution these two worlds may be drawing nearer to each other so that we, too, like the shaman, will be able easily to cross over and live in both worlds.


Kenneth Ring, Ph.D., is professor of psychology at the University of Connecticut and past president of the International Association for Near-Death Studies (IANDS). He is the author of Life At Death: A Scientific Investigation of the Near-Death Experience, Heading Toward Omega: In Search of the Meaning of the Near-Death Experience, and over forty articles in the fields of social psychology, transpersonal psychology, and near-death studies. Dr. Ring received his Ph.D. in social psychology from the University of Minnesota. He lives in Ashford, Connecticut.

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/articles011.html
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 02:40 PM
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6. I just wanted to add one point
in standard dream interpretation water signifies spirituality, does it not?

In which case, does Dr. Ring's interpretation of "accelerated psychospiritual evolution" (flood in widespread areas) be indicative of this phonomena?
btw, right along the acsension, channeling, and higher vibration messages....
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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 07:55 PM
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12. Hmmm, I never knew that, Rumpel
Perhaps this has something to do with Free republic, considering that it's located in Fresno. that's where most of the flooding was happening and we on the bus, were watching.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 12:07 AM
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23. sweeping changes
perhaps?
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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 07:52 PM
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11. This is really interesting....
My friends and dh always tell me that what I term as dreams, they consider something other than that. I have actually be asked to dream for friends and family. So, I do. Perhaps, you're right, I don't dream as other people do. I always have had these type of dreams and have often met with the same beings in more than one dream. In reading your article, (thank you for posting this today, BTW), I have had 3 NDE'S and have regularly had prophetic dreams. I thought that all people dreamt like this. Well, you know the old saying..." you learn somethig knew everyday".
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yellowdawgdem Donating Member (972 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 07:10 PM
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9. Dunno about the dream,
but the roasted lamb and pita sure made me hungry!
For real, though, the dream seems highly complex, and I liked the interpretations so far, they seem quite plausable. It is possible that you are picking up something about these detention centers with the wearing of white. And might be picking up on a possible future reality involving some scapegoating, violence, and subjugation. In your dream, however, all that was needed was a genuine group rebellion. So that is good to know.
At the start of the dream, though, it really sounded more like you were in a completion cycle, completing work at College level, ie advanced studies. Since you could not remember the studies, it could represent your overall spiritual status that is due for an advancement.
I am not sure what a bus represents, as opposed to a car or a plane etc. But vehicles often represent your physical bod, it's just that a bus is less common than an auto or aircraft. It could represent all of the parts of yourself, past and future, and all of those you hold in your psyche in a deep way. I don't get the color being a dark green-black, but I wouldn't judge it as negative energy. It could've been some camouflage, or represent the common people you love, inclusive of all colors. It is interesting that the bus was 70+ years old, that could show alot of things. Like that some of the dream is framing your 70ish future. Or it could have some other personal meaning to you, depending on who you know that's 70, or what else that number means to you. I guess the 1930's would also be significant.
Also, it sounded like you were deciding when to pass, and had thoughts of extending your life a few years longer than planned- and that your deceased mother was not happy about that decision. Maybe because of the dangers you mentioned.
Actually you could check into the number 10, too, since you pd. that to breathe in the deep blue beam of light, the healing energy. You tend to have highly detailed dreams, so you could take advantage of those messages by checking out the universal symbols of those that interest you. Flooding would be one theme, though it can at the same time be an accurate prediction. I think it can also represent some health problems if the flooding is at your own house, but it was at an Albertson's shopping center. Who knows, but it is sure trying to give you some clear messages.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:16 PM
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13. What an amazing dream!
I don't have much to add to others' interpretations--I agree with them. My impression was that it was your spiritual self in the first part of the dream, working on your advancement to a higher vibration. I wonder what the language of the test was! Intriguing!!

Ultraviolet light is a higher vibration as well.

The food, interestingly enough, seemed Middle Eastern. Hm!

I interpreted your travels through the apocalyptic landscape in California, with the flash floods and all, as your viewing it from another dimension--like you were safely at a higher vibration (hence why the bus didn't experience any difficulties on those roads) but could see what was going on in the same location, at a lower vibration.

I am VERY apprehensive about the detention centers, especially since Congress just wiped out haebeas corpus (brilliant...) so it was heartening that in your dream the detainees fought back. I wonder how close to Handmaid's Tale we're going to get before John Q. Public wakes up.
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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 12:57 PM
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16. I saw Handmaid's Tale and was horrified, to say the least
I don't think that in most quarters it would be allowed to get to that point. Notice I said, "most quarters". In a completely chaotic landscape, there would doubtless be pockets of extra insanity where that type of perversion would exist and thrive, unfortunately. There are huge numbers of "holier than thou" hypocrites that exist in so called "fundamentalist, pentecostal churches" who would LOVE to establish such a crazy society.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 07:27 PM
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18. Don't read the book
It's even more terrifying. The scariest part is how the citizens of the country in the book (Canada, I think, as Atwood is Canadian, but it's not named) let their rights slip through their fingers a little at a time till there was nothing left.

I hope you're right--that in most places it wouldn't be allowed to get to that point. I just try to keep in mind that Matthew promised that this admin wouldn't succeed with their plan to pen people up in those detention centers. I'd prefer to think that Americans love their freedom too much to be led to the slaughter like that. But then I think of how much freedom we've given up already, and so many people don't even notice...just like in Handmaid's Tale... :scared:
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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 09:09 PM
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19. I think that the fact that I'm a woman of
Mixed African descent and in a VERY happy marriage with a big sweet Czech makes me even more aware of what is looming on the horizon. I always told people that I would NEVER have made a good slave and trust me, anyone who'd try to would be in for a helluva surprise.
And welcome to DU, right proud to meet you!!
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 09:24 PM
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20. The book is very enlightening on how they obtained control
We take certain things for granted, like ATMs, and believe they give us greater freedom. After all, we no longer have to wait on line at a bank to get our money. Global satellite positioning attachments on cars are being marketed as a safety device in case of a breakdown. These conveniences are actually devices of surveillance and control. In the book, women were denied access to their bank accounts and became non-persons. They had no means of escape and became slaves.
The book is very chilling. Although Atwood is a Canadian, I think the book is set in the US. I remember early on, the main character and her husband were trying to get across the border to Canada.
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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 09:35 PM
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21. Yep, it was set in a horror of America
I believe that Atwood felt that the America showcased in her books was the one she felt would inevitably come from country mutated by the reagan type repubs.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 03:17 PM
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24. Thanks for the welcome!
Back atcha--proud to meet you too! I joined DU for the political discussion (after lurking for years) but I'm enjoying my time in the Astrology forum IMMENSELY.

As for being a target--tell me about it. An out-of-the-closet witch whose elder's phone is tapped and whose elder's elder is highly recognized in paranoid-political-type organizations? Yikes. I've got a big ol' bullseye on my back, I suspect!

Actually I almost didn't join DU because I didn't want an FBI file, and then I thought--who am I kidding?? I must've had a file for years. So what's a little more political ranting to add to its thickness? :hi:
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Angel Wings Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 05:13 PM
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17. hmmm...this is very interesting as I have been having dreams
since June with white as a theme in them. I have always thought of white as only representing spiritual goodness or similar but I have recently come to the conclusion that white is representing fear and/or confusion in my dreams.

One really strange thing that happened that your dream reminds me of is a semi waking nightmare I had in June. Now,these are extremely rare for me to have. The last one I had was almost 20 years ago when I was in high school and under a lot of stress. But, in June I wasn't stressed except for my dreams. Anyway, I suddenly woke up from a tense feeling sleep and looked behind me and there standing at the side of my bed was a man dressed in a white robe with white skin and hair like a statue. He was just staring at me in this dim light coming from out side my room. I half jumped out of my bed and started screaming at it. Whatever it was seemed to be content with watching me scream at it. Then, it seemed like another part of myself started telling me to wake up so I'd stop screaming. Then woke up fully and it wasn't there anymore nor the dim light.

Well, that creeped the hell out of me. I've had some really telling dreams from time to time but I don't know what the hell that was all about.

Anyway I noticed the white and robed theme in this thread and it reminded me about how I am still baffled by it.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 12:06 AM
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22. anyone else in the house?
did they hear your scream? or do you think the scream was not audible to others?

for example, when I see an apparition (in a wake state) I usually do not feel any negativity or any fear at all - only afterwards I get goosebumps

did you feel threatened in some way, or just startled by it?
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