Tarot says Bush is in deep doodoo.

[Cleita]

My questions was:

“How will Bush meet the end of his term as President?"



I like Celtic cross because it gives you past and present circumstances and their influences before you move into the future.

As you can see he is surrounded by cards that describe where he has been so far. His life of privilege is indicated by the Nine of Pentacles. It’s his foundation, who he is. Behind him is Death. Although Death doesn’t usually mean actual death in this case I do believe it describes what Bush as left behind him, destruction and the unnecessary deaths resulting from his meaningless wars, his ineptitude in dealing with crisises as evidenced by 9-11, Katrina and the dismantling of our social safety nets for the underprivileged.

Not only does he have Judgement from the universe for his many crimes hanging over his head now, it means he’s becoming aware and conscience of what he has done. Also the upside down Justice card covering him shows he is facing legal trouble in many ways. The Queen of Wands crossing him could mean domestic, legal troubles as well. Has Laura Bush really left him. The King of Swords before him indicates a lawyer or judge. The fact that he is reversed means that it can’t be good for Bush. This person is a prosecutor not a defense lawyer. Also, there has been previous speculation that a woman would be the downfall of the Bush administration. This seems to be confirming that speculation. It seems she has given information to the prosecutor figure about the Bush cabal. Could Laura be the snitch?

The reverse Page of Pentacles says that he fears bad news about these legal problems. Those who are in his inner circle are frantic and pessimistic about these legal issues that are coming up to bite him and them by association as indicated by The Star, reversed.

The Ten of Swords and Nine of Swords indicate that this won’t end well for Bush. The Ten of Swords indicating his hopes in the matter means he’s not very optimistic of the outcome. It is making him careless about his health as evidenced by his drinking and falling episodes. The Ten of Swords reversed can mean imprisonment.

The number of Major Arcana cards means there are players in high places involved in this drama. Can I say impeachment and imprisonment? The cards have spoken. I wonder how right they will be? I have had visions of him taken out of the White House on a guerney. Will this be how he leaves, a sick and broken man? The cards indicate that no matter what ruse he tries to get out of being brought to justice he will still be tried for crimes somewhere and imprisoned.

Anybody else see something different in the cards than I have seen?

[stellanoir]

1. From your deck

to the "Creatrix's" ears.

I've not pulled cards on him ever but I've just a deep abiding sense that he cannot get away with the destruction he has wrought for much longer, despite all appearances to the contrary.

[LaurenG]

2. Plus those are swords

which indicate air or mental stuff. The 9 and 10 are pretty rough cards. I'd say if he gets ill it will be mental illness. Crowley named those two Ruin and dispair/cruelty.

[Cleita]

3. I thought so too. I just went, "Wow".

That's why I had to wait a day to post. I really had to think about it. Mental illness crossed my mind too. It could be his prison might end up being an asylum.

[stellanoir]

5. He is mentally ill

and has been since his kid sister died and he blew up frogs as a kid.

See "Bush on the Couch" for reference.

[Why Syzygy]

20. The wealthy

beyond consciousness don't end up in asylums. Mum and dad's $$ keeps them comfy at home. Have you ever seen someone on crack? They get up and look out the blinds every two seconds? They dash from room to room to make sure no one is coming to get them. It is very sad, and scary to observe. That is the Nine of Swords. No rest for the restless.

[MissWaverly]

21. Dante had a circle in hell like that

it was for people that did not use judgment in their lives, they were continually blown by the
wind with no control of their destination.

[MissWaverly]

22. thank you for this post

it's very insightful, it ties in with a dream I had at the beginning of the summer, it basically
said that their fate is fixed, leave them be.

[BluePatriot]

4. Thoughts

King of Swords reversed is Fitzgerald, I bet. I can't say who the female figure would be...I can think of Cindy Sheehan, Valerie Plame...but I almost want to settle on Katrina, the hurricane with a female name that showed how disorganized and corrupt the Bush Admin really is.

[marions ghost]

6. whew...heavy

I agree--indicates the pResident is arriving at the Beginning of the End. He is coming to the point of realization of his abject failure. And the end will be hard. The upside-down Justice card...Whew--the nine and ten of swords together. (Live by the sword, die by the sword). We may see him reap what he has sewn in a personal sense as well as a political sense. I don't envy the job of the people trying to keep him on the balance beam right now.

Interesting analysis, right on it I think. Thanks Cleita.

[Grateful for Hope]

7. Wow, Cassie!

It sounds to me that there is good potential in justice being served. Do you get the impression that Bush might implicate some more powerful than he as a means to try to save himself?

[cassiepriam]

24. Not me Hope, I have no knowledge at all of tarot cards...

Looks fascinating, I sure like what Cleita saw...

And whom do you think bush would implicate??

[Grateful for Hope]

29. Oops, sorry. Meant to reply to Cleita

But, in answer to your question, I don't know who he would implicate, but, I believe that Bush is a puppet.

[ccpup]

8. Interesting analysis

I hadn't thought of the Queen of Wands as maybe Katrina, but the card does indicate the month of August and the sign of Leo (is Laura a Leo? I don't know), so it could conceivably be that. The Star reversed says, to me, a total disconnect from Reality. With the card upright, you'll notice the figure has one foot in the water and the other foot on land showing she is balanced. The card inverted, though, could indicate a total, and dangerous, disconnect from not only reality but also your Higher Self.

The Sword cards could be illness (especially the 10 of Swords) or it could be obsessive worry and many, many sleepless nights (the 9 of Swords). With the childish need Baby Bush has to be "better" than his father, I can imagine he'd be shattered leaving the White House as the Most Hated Man in the World and the Biggest Failure as a President in American History. Not even a friendly barbecue with the locals will erase that label!

Interestingly, though, with the 9 of Pentacles as the starting point, he started with everything! The 9 indicates largess and rest. An enjoyment of your position and a knowing that all is well and you can take a breather. And then we have the Death card in the recent past. The Death card, to me, always signifies Great Change. Perhaps Bush had "seen the light" with his mistakes and then decided to pretend that he didn't? I don't know. Usually the Death card gives one the opportunity to Begin Again, but perhaps that's another opportunity Bush squandered.

One thing I'll say about this reading is there doesn't seem to be too much thought with the players involved. The Kind of Swords is reversed, so he's not doing his job of analyzing, investigating or being curious about why things are the way they are. He's just lazily assuming things will work the way he wants. The Page of Pentacles, also reversed, seems to be withholding or muddying the message he'd usually carry about money or goods or services. And the 9 and 10 of Swords? They're in too much pain and wrapped up in their own stuff to see their way out! Not exactly the kind of cards you want to see about the people allegedly running your country.

I only wish we could have had some "cross cards" (a card or two laid out to give extra info) on the 9 and 10 of Swords, the Star, maybe even the King of Swords.

Anyway, it's been years since I've done this, so forgive me if I'm a little rusty. :-)

[MissWaverly]

23. interesting about the Page of Pentacles

I read at Daily KOS that the annual republican fundraiser in Texas hosted by Bush was a bust, it's for the RNC and they only brought in 36% of what they did last year. So maybe people are holding their purse strings until the storm is over.

[Why Syzygy]

35. Your post

just made me laugh out loud.

[MissWaverly]

42. Thanks, it reminds me of the death of vaudeville

It was the rage, then suddenly people stopped being amused and then they stopped going to the
shows.

[Seabiscuit]

9. Interesting ...

Well, there is of course Harriet Miers. She is a lawyer, who probably knows way too many secrets and as someone else mentioned that a woman may be his downfall Harriet Miers could be that connection. Harriet Miers was born August 10, 1945. The meaning of her name means "Home Ruler" - of german perhaps teutonic origin. The anagram to her name is, I just did a quick search I'm sure there is a lot more. Harriet Ellan Miers - "I am a thriller sneer". :scared:

[rumpel]

10. Cleita, this is quite a message

you got.

The thick negative vibration he has around him that we could not penetrate seem to have a firm grip.

I am not so sure whether he realizes the mistakes though. What a sad epitaph to someone who had all the good that could have been done within his reach.

What a sad soul.

[Mist]

11. An amazing spread -- Just to add my .02, I've made some notes -

Justice reversed:Someone engaging in criminal or immoral activities. Bias, legal complications.
(a question: you referred to the Justice card "covering him." Is there another card, as significator, under the Justice card?)
The Death card often means sudden, important transitions; spiritual and emotional transformations that must be made. I'm confused by this card, in this postion, for this subject!
the 9 of Pentacles I would say is Bush's mother's influence--he has been coddled overmuch in life, and feels entitled to whatever he wants. Kevin Phillips' book, "American Dynasty," mentions the relationship Bush had with his mother as being much closer than she had with the other children.
The Queen of Wands can stand for a type of force: energy, passion, practicality, and generosity are associated w/the Q.of Wands
The Page of Pentacles, reversed, can mean bad news re: finances and credit. Considering the subject of the reading, I would see that as bad news for the economy, and our unending credit spiral!

The King of Swords, reversed, can indicate a person of cruely, violence, and back-stabbing behavior. I get the feeling this card doesn't refer to Bush, but to someone who will treat him that way.
The Star, reversed. This card is in the position of people around the subject. The Star usually stands for higher consciousness, inner knowledge, contemplation. The people surrounding Bush don't seem to have those qualitlies, therefore the reversed Star!
I don't read reversed cards myself, so had to go back through some notes I took in a Tarot class a few years ago, as well as referring to a couple of books. I intend these notes as "possible" meanings, NOT in place of your own interpretations!

[Love Bug]

12. The Death card is in the position of energy that is leaving the situation

which suggests to me that whatever transformation Bush is going to experience has already happened. I wish it meant that the death and destruction that follows Bush was "leaving," but the Death card seldom means actual, physical death.

If I got that layout in a reading I think I would go home, crawl into bed and pull the covers over my head. Yikes!

[Cleita]

14. I almost didn't post it because of what it revealed.

But I might ask for clarification in the future. Right now I don't feel I will get any clear answers, that the Tarot has revealed to me all it's going to reveal at this time. The chapter is closed for now and I will know when to pick up the book again and read the next chapter.

[Cleita]

13. I sort of ascribe to the school of Tarot that says the cards mean

what you think they mean, so I don't always stick to the strict meaning, but what the cards, in context to the others and the significator, say to me. I don't use a significator card but that place that would cover the significator card is very much covering the object of the reading.

The Death card in this case screamed out to me about Bush's recent past as a destroyer. He really has ended what we thought of as our constitutional, democratic government during his term. I feel the reverse King of Swords is someone of legal stature who is working to bring Bush to Justice, not one of his enabling sycophants. Hence why he is reversed. I don't see this card as a evil person in the context of this reading.

Since the Queen of Wands and the Queen of Cups seems to appear regularly in any Bush reading, I go along with the theory of a woman or maybe women being the catalyst of his fall from grace. Since she crosses Justice reversed, it says to me that she might be giving testimony against him to a panel that is investigating one of many things, 9-11, the Plame affair, or any other investigations being conducted behind closed doors at this time. Since she is next to the King, ordinarily you would consider them lovers, spouses or very close. I interpret the closeness to be one of work rather than love. I think she is revealing many secrets to the lawyer or judge figure.

I hope I was helpful as to how I came to these conclusions.

[Love Bug]

15. That reversed King of Swords probably represents those in Congress

like John Conyers who have been actively working to investigate Bush and stymie his agenda. That the card is reversed suggests they are having a tough time of it, which we can all see.

[Cleita]

18. John Conyers is a good candidate. I have been cooling

to the idea that Fitzgerald is that person. However, it's good to know that someone is doing something. There is also the lawsuit that Bobby Kennedy, Jr. is doing regarding election fraud.

[davsand]

39. In some decks the Queen of Cups has red around the throat chakra.

I haven't used or looked at a Rider deck in several years and I honestly can't remember the imagery well enough to be sure, however, in some of the decks there is a red (very angry looking!) energy present around the throat of the Queen. For me it has always associated with communication problems or throat health problems. In a reversed Queen in THIS particular reading, I'd have to wonder about it.

I tend to agree with you on the interpretations of the cards, Cleita. For me, it is often something within the card that jumps out at me or creates a "feeling" or mental image. Often, stuff will "jump" out for me when the card comes up. (For instance, the stuff about the angry energy at the Queen's throat...) I have NEVER used the "cookbook" interpretations as much more than a beginning point.

Regards!



Laura

[BlueIris]

16. Oy. I did my own Tarot spreads on Bush's future last night and...

I was so disturbed by what I saw, that I don't think I'm going to do that again for a while. I may just have to hope for the best, and see how future events play out. I might post what my own readings turned up, which was, for the most part, not what I expected, but right now I am a wee bit exhausted. Becoming gainfully employed again has a tendency to do that to a person, I've found out.

For the record, my own readings suggested that he goes down, hard. But it's not going to be the way I wanted. Nor is history going to regard him the way I wanted (ie; as one of the worst individuals in it). I was also shocked to see that my own role in the Bush removal process my not wind up being...what I believed it would be or what I wanted it to be. Egh. Now I'm all confused about my life again.

[Cleita]

17. Please put it up or at least an interpretation.

I know that Bush has always been an enigma to me too because his cards don't work out the way you think they should.

[BlueIris]

28. Well, there's this one, (my apologies if the graphic is tiny--PB hates me)

(Also, apologies if this is...an odd spread, I did it at an online site because my own decks are too saturated with my own energies right now to yield insights into anyone beyond me--for the record, this, um, 9 card Cross spread from this website has always brought me info that jives with what my cards say about me, when my cards are "working.")

The first question I asked was, "How will Bush finish out his term?"

Card 1 (5 of Pentacles)-- (central issue or concern) In this one, Bush and his situation look to me to be like two beggars at the mercy of whatever last, minimal shred of resources are available to them, including the churches or other last avenues of hope. I realize that in some eyes, the 5 of Pentacles reflects positivity of a kind, usually the querant or subject asking for help through channels that cannot deny him or her. 'Cause it's Bush the reading is about, I see it as his frantic search for an escape hatch, preferably the easiest, most assured one he sees as being available to him, one that is not likely to deny him despite his crimes (ie; right-wing religious groups, legal loopholes, or total abdication of responsibility).

Card 2 (Knight of Swords)-- (querant or subject) I see this card as embodying both the swiftness of the changes through which Bush will be removed from office, which may be more like a swift, tornado-like flurry of events than one decisive event that cuts him down to our (or anyone's) satisfaction, as well as Bush's image of himself, that of a daring, commanding agent of vengeance and heroism. I was surprised to see this card upright, even if it may be more inclined to represent Bush's conception of himself than the way we see him--too much energy and self-confidence there to be Bush, or what I sense of his self-opinion. On the bright side, I saw this card a lot during the time after the 2004 election, when I was doing readings about how the vote fraud would be unveiled, and have sometimes seen it appear in readings right before exciting things happened with either Kerry or Fitzgerald.

Card 3 (Page of Wands)-- (events passing out of querant or subject's life) I see this card, representing to me a youngish, rogue-like, spiritually clueless nitwit, as symbolic of the last of Bush's petulant, self-important attitude washing away. He is about to lose the final vestiges of even this most minimal sort of influence on the public and his own people.

Card 4 (2 of Wands)-- (events which may be the deciding factor in what is to come) This one, to me, says that Bush is "making" a decision (or having it made for him) about whether or not to act on...something, probably a plan in the relatively early stages, maybe related to the grotesqueries in the Middle East, maybe related to the elections or his own grave state. He is evaluating which course to take, or perhaps whether or not to take a direct course of action (as opposed to sitting passively back some more and letting others take care of things for him as they always have).

Card 5 (Justice Rx)-- (events that are before the querant or subject) Welp, I...don't think this is a good sign for Bush. May not be a good sign for us either, though, as my general sense of this reading is that it doesn't suggest that Bush is yanked out of office and proclaimed evil and a war criminal in the way many of us would like to see a whoooole lot. To me, it could be suggestive of either a massive, major pile of legal actions and decisions unfavorable to Bush crashing down on him in the greatest, most severe extreme, or suggestive of a grossly injust act that hurts us and our society more than it could ever hurt him, although I think that if it's symbolic of an "injustice," (like, say, bombing Iran) it won't reflect in any way other than direly on him, either.

Card 6 (Wheel of Fortune Rx)-- (querant or subject's emotional state) I think even Bush knows that in a karmic, spiritual and chronological sense, his time is pretty seriously up. And I think he wants it to be done, whether he will gain the chance to redeem himself for what he's done or not. This card could also represent Bush's evil deeds and as cassie has noted, total fuck-up of his own intended spiritual mission in this lifetime, or his utter obliviousness to these failures.

Card 7 (King of Pentacles Rx)-- (querant or subject's environment, and how he is perceived by others) This one doesn't need much explanation, I think. Bush is a once-prosperous ruler, (at least in terms of his precious political capital, or what others thought of it) who is now utterly ruined. Especially in terms of his handling of economic matters, he is increasingly seen by those who care as incompetent, churlish, unwise and even mad. What strikes me most about this card is what is suggests of riches and potential squandered. ...Egh. When it comes to what others think of him, the last thing I personally want is for folks to focus on Bush's alleged potential for greatness, particularly as economics are concerned. Blech.

Card 8 (9 of Swords Rx)-- (querant or subject's hopes, dreams, aspirations or desired outcome for his or her present course) Bush wants both his fears for himself and his future to cease, and right now, if you please. Like others, I believe he is in a state of mental crisis, and probably wants out of that place as quickly as possible, no matter how he has to get there. Being Bush, he also likely wants the absolute easiest way out of his troubles that anyone could ask for and expect. What concerns me about this card is that I think it could imply a maybe-suicide for him, or even that he is, or offers himself up to be, "suicided," to stop the pain and escape the consequences, if nothing else. That's what I always find so disheartening about the 9 of Swords...it points to a way out of a dark place, but not much about how a person or chain of events may get to that way. It's more foreboding to me than hopeful. Looking at it in this spread, I was reminded of the way that many suicidally depressed people appear to rapidly improve, or at least stop hurting, right before taking their own lives. Friends and family members sometimes say that the perceived dramatic improvement right before the end seems like the kind of improvement that results from a person suddenly finding a solution to a burden they had struggled with for a long time, which, well, for the suicidal, is the burden of leading lives filled with such enormous pain.

Card 9 (Queen of Wands, Rx)-- (outcome) This is the card I was most disappointed to see. I had been hoping to see the Queen of Wands or the Queen of Cups in this position in this reading perhaps, but...not reversed. To me, the reversal of this card suggests the possibility that the dynamic, independent, female fire energy of this Queen, with all of her hard-edged, no-nonsense, benevolent disciplinarian's approach to leading and inspiring...fails us, or is otherwise perverted somehow when it comes to the resolution of the Bush insanity. Does our enigmatic Queen of Wands, with her potential for bringing resolution to the Bush madness, drop the ball somehow? Is she defamed, maybe before she can offer more help, support, or suggested solutions to the people Bush has hurt? Does she succumb to total vengeance, or other unwise strategies or reactions to Bush? I have this fear that the Bush situation has simply gone to far to be resolved in an entirely clean manner by our flawed and damaged society, particularly within the borders of our own nation. I guess it's conceivable that the Queen of Wands is tied more closely to Bush than the world's reaction to him, but--the Queen of Wands, even reversed? Bush? If I had to pick a Queen to represent Bush it would be the Queen of Swords reversed. Stingy spitefulness, with a dash of abject snobbery.

Gah. Not a satisfying or hopeful reading to me. At all.

[Cleita]

30. I don't always read the reverse cards as bad.

They can be bad where the subject of the reading is concerned, in this case Bush. I think your Queen of Wands is working in opposition to things that would be favorable to him. She still can have all that energy that will be needed to bring him down, and in opposition to him.

Thanks for posting. I think there is something that should be tracked here.

[Why Syzygy]

19. I see the Death card

as the description of how he was taken from a failed businessman, spoiled brat into the most prestigious position in the world. He was reborn (the traditional meaning of Death). He was given EVERY opportunity, but allowed himself to be used by dark forces for a brief puff of fame. The Star is very representative because that position is the place for how others view the situation, and he has certainly destroyed dreams of an entire planet. The 10 of Swords is a reckoning. You don't come back from that without being changed. So you might say, he misses his opportunity to reconcile his evil associations and lives with regret forever. Did any of us mind that Nixon was a ruined man for the rest of his ignoble life. Did we care one shit? When he died, did anyone give a damn? No. You don't rip off an entire civilization and commit crimes against humanity and have anyone care when you end up a wasted shell of a being. We all function according to the same laws. B*sh is a gazillion times more corrupt than Nixon. I don't see him having a happy ending. Thanks for the read.

[cassiepriam]

25. Don't forget Condi ... a woman scorned and all that....

I think bush dumped her ...she has looked like hell lately.....

[Sanity Claws]

26. I think you have a point

I'm not convinced that the two were having an affair. Most alcoholics at that age can't get it up anymore. (excuse my crudeness).
However, even if they weren't having an affair, she lost in the battle for Bush's favor on the Israel-Lebanon bombing. The word was that Cheney outmaneuvered her and got Bush to do his bidding. She's being marginalized, just as Powell over at State was. I think the loss of favor and power could make her want to talk about where the bodies are buried.

[hippiechick]

27. LuLu stated in her post above ...

... about * being 'backstabbed'.. wonder if Uncle Dick's true Sith tendencies are coming out to play and he's no longer 'playing for the team' but instead is taking the last 2 years of his time near the throne to push his own warped agenda?

:shrug:

What does he care what anyone thinks of the Boy King ? He's fairly insulated, low profile, and apparently surrounds himself with the type of thugs that intimidate people and countries enough to make whatever the hell he wants happen between now and January '09.

:scared:

[cassiepriam]

36. Viagra.

I believe that bush, cheney, rove have been sexually impotent
for some time. Their greed and aggression in part is a substitute for what they cannot do in the bedroom.

And if it weren't for viagra, there would have not been a condi-bush affair.

Yes we shall see if condi joins colin powell in singing like a canary.

[Cleita]

38. Also, the Condi/Bush affair may not involve actual

sex. It could be a sadism/masochism type of liason. Everytime I look at Condi's stilleto heels, I can't help thinking that.

On edit: Could this be why he gets all those bruises and contusions on his face? Does Condi grind her heels into him when they are having "sex"?
:-)

[cassiepriam]

41. He may be into the rough stuff.

Anything is possible with him.

[Matariki]

31. somewhat off topic question -

how do you get the cool graphic for your tarot layout?

[Cleita]

32. I'll try to explain. It's strictly a homemade affair.

I use Paint Shop Pro. I can't afford Photoshop. But I have the graphics of the Tarot cards in a file, which I imported and screen captured from another website. When I do a spread I pull the cards involved and arrange them in layers on a PSP background. When I have them sized, reversed and arranged the way my spread came out, I flatten them into one graphic. Then I upload to photobucket. I'm sure there is an easier way to do it, but this is what I have been able to figure out.

[Matariki]

33. hmmm

it looks nice. a lot of work though.

let me think about this. there must be a way to do it on a web page - with drop-down selections. then you could just take a screen shot and save it as a jpg? maybe i'll make something like that and put it on my site...

[Cleita]

40. That would be really an improvement if you can figure it out.

:-)

[Why Syzygy]

34. Okay.. ya'll got me into it..

I haven't thrown cards in quite some time. I noticed when I got the deck out, the bottom card was 10 of Swords. But I'm afraid my reading isn't as deliciously justice served as others. It goes this way >

No pictures.

The 10 of Swords turned up as the Significator. Went from the bottom to the top. I shuffle 7 times. Utter defeat. What covers = 8 Pentacles .. a craftsman. He knows his trade. Too bad it is death and destruction, but he does it well. Crosses = 8 of Wands. Lots of creative energy, but undirected. He could use his influence for the betterment of all, but is off course. Eight is money energy. He has absolutely no aptitude for financial responsibility. Has always had access to cash and always will, but his mismanagement is a problem for others. Not for him. What lies below = 3 of Cups, feel-good associations. Cheers. A feeling of affinity. Nice rosy feeling. Of course he's had drink and drugs and good fellows well met. I assume forever.

What points to the past = Page of Pentacles. Obvious. Reckless abandon with resources. Material things feel good, and are abundant. But disipline is lacking. Lesson would be, take heed. We know he didn't. Above and a portion of current events = 6 of Cups. This is why we stand baffled. Why he continues to get away with crime after crime. There is a spirit of community that protects him. From what I've read, it isn't the kind of community that you and I think about and cultivate. I love this card and always project a feeling of peace and community with it. But knowing what I do about him, I have to conclude that the power that protects him is much greater than we might imagine.

What follows = Queen of Wands, reversed. The Woman. He is going to have a hard time with this one. I won't speculate on an actual person, because it could just be energy. We know he hates women. The fire, the passion, the creative force (stem cell research) are threats to him. He doesn't care if women have choice. The kingdom of the Arabs is okie dokie with him. They own women. Slavery. So, don't expect him to have any inkling of care for women. They are tools. This, sisters and brothers, still troubles our planet. We don't confront it daily. And there seems to be a much larger destructive force unleashed at this point. But what if the women in those countries who war have a voice? Would we be killing and witnessing killing? No. We are creators. We are the force they fight and we are not going away.

How he sees his role = 2 of Wands. How discouraging it is to look upon this card. But nutshell, conqueror, master of the globe, new adventurer. I've never noticed the white and red roses crossed at the lower left of this card. That's the female position, but I think it means warfare.

What adds = 4 of Pentacles. Another disruption of money energy. What he has he covets and holds tightly. The whole world is turned upside down, yet he holds coins.

Another perspective = 3 of Wands. A lost or undiscovered landscape. A 'what could have been'. It could be an awakening, but not in this position. It is lost. His world is lost.

Possible outcome = 2 of Cups. A jolly good celebration time. Perhaps he makes new alliances. Perhaps he just finishes out his days with nice companionship and feels loved. If you think about it and what we know about mental disturbances, it is much more likely that he will find a way to comfort himself. I don't know anyone who volunteers for mental torture. Women, wine and song can do much to soothe, and he can sure afford them.

The question was the end of office.

[Cleita]

37. What are the odds that in three different throws by three

different readers that the Ten of Swords and the Queen of Wands show themselves? Up until now I rarely pulled the Ten of Swords. This is something to think about. If the Two of Cups puzzles you, try another throw with the Two of Cups as significator. Ask for more information about this outcome.

[Why Syzygy]

49. I don't see

the 10 in the second reading? But you are right, the odds of even the Queen of Wands showing up three times is almost unimaginable. But that is Tarot. I've been in a situation I so wanted to change and the Tower (your sig) turned up over and over. I had to go through it.

I like the 2 of Cups suggestion. I'll try to make time to do that.

[MissWaverly]

43. Cleita, the Queen of Wands

The Legal Figure, could this be the Federal Judge (Anna Diggs Taylor/6th District Court) in Detroit, that just ruled that the wiretapping program is illegal, Cafferty said that a 75 year old African American judge in Detroit just did what the Congress could not do. Call this wiretapping program unconstitutional.

[Cleita]

47. It could be possible. Since I don't have a clear idea of

whom it may be, therein lies the mystery of reading the cards. It points to this legal figure and I have interpreted this as a legal figure, but whom? The cards aren't giving me a hint with companion cards yet. Further readings may clarify this. The Queen of Wands seems to be closer and more intimate with Bush due to her position in the spread. It's still something of a puzzle but something to look at.

Remember that the cards only reveal some of what's hidden. They point us in a direction with their clues. It's up to us to figure it out.

[MissWaverly]

48. thanks, and thank again for the detailed tarot reading

It is the best I've seen here, thanks

Miss Waverly

[peacetalksforall]

44. Thanks, Cleita, for the interpretations. I often read these posts, but

can't get much out of them because the ratio is 85-90 card jargon to only a 10-15 plain English interpretion that a layperson like myself can understand. You reversed the ratio and I got a lot out of it.

Have any of you Tarot readers read the Cheney cards side-by-side with Bush? I have the feeling we're going to witness a giant chasm of a divide between them where they really getting into a blame game for the purpose of protecting their legacies.

[Cleita]

46. I never think of reading Cheney's cards but lately I'm

getting a feeling I should. I have somewhat concentrated on trying to fathom Bush's path. Up until now the cards have shown this man walking a rose petal strewn path. Now the worm seems to be turning.

[KittyWampus]

45. Perhaps Bush's certainty in his Divine Purpose in Iraq etc will come

crumbling down.

He has so many people allowing him to live in his bubble... believing he's doing God's Work.

This will change.