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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:43 PM
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Favorite anti-nightmare remedy?
I keep having nightmares. Every night since the Thursday on which the moon was void. I don't get it. I've been "living as I should," as they say. I've limited my exposure to negative people, ideas, and entertainment. I've been keeping my bedroom clean and its air purified. I've been making positive plans for the future, even if I have yet to act on many of them. I've been dispensing with my anger in healthy ways, and practicing random acts of kindness and senseless beauty. And yet--horrible, horrible dreams. Does anyone have any suggestions for how to turn this trend around?
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 06:08 PM
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1. not sure I can help
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 06:14 PM by in search of sanity
Hi, BlueIris.
You posted something similar to this about a month or two ago and I remember responding. However, I have no idea what I said! ;)
I probably suggested either drinking camomille tea or sleeping with a crystal in your hand or under a pillow. Did you try either?
As for crystals, I find carnelian and red jasper very calming. I know others really like rose quartz.
I have been having a lot dreams over the last few months, some of which I don't like but they couldn't be considered nightmares. While I don't like them, I think the dreams may be a necessary way for some deep stuff to work itself out.
Good luck!
P.S. Did you ever find paisley underwear?
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 06:47 PM
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2. Paisley underwear to combat nightmares??
This forum got very interesting while I was offline due to a
PC crash.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:35 PM
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3. Haha
Cassie,
The paisley underwear has nothing to do with nightmares or avoiding them. Sometime ago, BlueIris posted a message about wanting to get paisley underwear. She even described the colors she was looking for.

I hope we haven't started a run on paisley underwear by mistake.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 08:23 PM
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5. Tell Skinner we have an idea for the next fund drive.
Cute paisley undergarments embroidered with little DUs.

For the sophisticated Democrat.

(Also gets rid of nightmares, specifically those with
repugs in them.)



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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 08:26 PM
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6. We'll let you design them
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 08:44 PM by in search of sanity
Just make sure that the ladies' styles include bikini panties. I hate thongs.

Glad to see your computer problem is fixed. I missed your comments on the charts posted in another thread.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:10 AM
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12. I still think thongs are the flip flops you wear on your feet.
So not to worry. Bikini it is.

Besides I do not think there is any
room on a thong for the little DU logo :( .
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:46 PM
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4. Sadly, I had to scrap my "underwear therapy" plans due to
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 07:47 PM by BlueIris
budgetary constraints. But it's my top priority as soon as I get through the latest cash flow problem.

Yes, we do the tea and the crystal-by-the-bed thing, although I guess I could try putting rose quartz/jasper by the bed instead of the petrified driftwood and other kinds of grounding crystals I have there now. At the moment, I'm hugging some of my moonstones and hoping for the best for tonight.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 09:07 PM
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7. I absolutely love the paisley underwear theory
of subconscious protection. That is utterly hysterical.

But here's a little prayer my son and I composed when he was going through the typically predictable little kid stage of monster nightmares. . .

"God & Goddess (sometimes more recently and more playfully referred to as the Creatrix) thank you for all the good things in my life. Please allow my to sleep deeply and soundly with good dreams or no dreams at all. Please also allow me to wake up refreshed and restored and have a good day tomorrow, a good day tomorrow, and a very, very, good day."

Ahhh he was 4 when he composed the very redundant tale end of that prayer. He never had disturbing dreams again. He still says it at 15 and has had many good days. Too funny really.

When my eldest god daughter was of a similar age and was experiencing really graphically and scary dreams that were startling her awake at night, I told her to close her eyes again and imagine a hero or heroine to come and save the day. Just like mighty mouse. That worked equally well for her.

Some times it's the simple things that work the best. Truly.
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silverlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 10:22 PM
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8. A story about an Indian dreamcatcher...
I have a friend whose husband suffers from PTSD (Viet Nam). He suffered from terrible nightmares, among most of the other symptoms. She bought a dreamcatcher and hung it in their bedroom. She didn't necessarily buy it because of his nightmares, mostly because she just liked it. She had it hanging in a window where she later moved furniture that blocked its site. They laughed that his nightmares stopped, thinking it was only coincidence. And, about three months later they started again. About a month after that, she was moving furniture again and doing some deep cleaning and realized that the dreamcatcher had fallen from the window. She rehung it, without telling him, and the nightmares again ceased.

So, from this experience, I have a new outlook on dreamcatchers.

Whatever you try, I hope it helps.
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 10:45 PM
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9. well I can think of a mantra or two that might help but what i really
found useful was B-12 2000 or 5000mg sub lingual. I was mostly vegetarian and pregnant at the time and plagued by alien abduction nightmares.. I stumbled onto the b-12 SL and it wiped both the nightmares and the carpal tunnel i was having problems with..
best of luck!
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 10:59 PM
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10. I've been meaning to switch to the sub-lingual.
'Cause I don't think the tablets, which normally work just fine for me, are helping as much as they should. I'm really burning through all of my vitamins lately in general, I've noticed.
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:44 AM
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14. B vitamins are great for stress in general.. but even the stress tabs
only usually have about 50 micro grams of the b-12.. i find the 2000, which I can't seem to get my hands on lately, or the 5000 which Twinlab carries, are what work for me. b's as you know do work better together so it is good to keep taking them that way. Hope you get some good rest!
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 11:41 AM
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19. Mine allegedly have 1,000 mcg of the actual b-12 in them.
But I don't know--lately, it feels like almost no energy booster is even making a dent. Or, on high energy days, nothing can slow me down. Very confusing.
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:23 PM
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25. Has your serum b12 level ever been tested?
I'm just curious if you've been diagnosed as deficient or anemic.

I'm b12 anemic and the sublinguals don't do the trick for me. I'd have to eat them like candy all day long for them to make a difference.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 04:49 PM
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27. I don't put health info up on the boards if at all possible anymore.
Not good for your personal security, I found out.
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yellowdawgdem Donating Member (972 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 04:05 AM
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11. best remedy for nightmares
Get up, and write a scarey story.
If you're not into that, then you could post 1 or 2 of the nightmares here so we could at least all look at them.
I've been impressed with the keen insights people come up with.
I hope your problem is from low vitamin B12, as that would be easiest to fix. However, I wanted to say that dealing with anger doesn't necessarily ensure peaceful dreams. And vice versa, as I myself have been just riddled with anger these days. I can't seem to get get rid of it, and it has become difficult during day to day interactions. But, my dreams are not reflecting the anger at all.
So, it isn't always logical, I guess. Usually dreams are about the future, and integrating several different levels at once. If you are having nightmares, and the dreamcatchers don't work, or the b12 sublingual, and if nothing gets rid of them- I'd be inclined to think you are having them as preparation for some challenges ahead.
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Chemical Bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:26 AM
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13. Rescue Remedy (Bach Flower Essence). n/t
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 11:38 AM
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17. I'm off almost all the essences right now.
The vibrational shifts most induce are too simply too overwhelming. Plus, I have a delicate system. Three of the essences in Rescue Remedy specifically are way, WAY too heavy for me. (Star of Bethlehem, Rock Rose, and Impatients--blech. Star of B alone will knock me out for half the day.) Then again, I know this thread is about what others use, so thanks for sharing.
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Chemical Bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 12:32 PM
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23. Wow.
Most people I suggest flower essences to tell me something like they didn't feel a thing, but the three cups of coffee kept them awake anyway. ;-)

I consider everything and everybody in my dreams to represent parts of myself. Usually when I have a bad dream I think about what part of me I am representing by the violent people in the dream. I ask myself how I am treating myself like those in the dream are treating the others in the dream. Then I thank myself for the information, and if necessary ask for a message in a form that is easier to understand, or less disruptive anyway.

Bill
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:57 AM
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15. Don't eat at least two hours before you go to bed
My SO sometimes gets blazing gas attacks during the night. I know he will wake up the next morning deeply disturbed by a vicious nightmare, very often including explosions (bombs, violence, etc.). After he tells me his terrifying dream, I ask him what he had for dinner or late night snack. Invariably he will have eaten something hard to digest before bedtime. It's not a very spiritual explanation, but I have been able to explain his (and other friends) nightmares by inquiring into their eating habits.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 11:40 AM
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18. Yeah, I'm definitely thinking about cutting the evening snacks.
That's never affected me before, to my knowledge, but I ate less before bed last night and last night was better.
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 12:27 PM
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22. That's a good track.
Spiciness matters too; he's more likely to have bomb dreams after chili with beans, pepperoni pizza, burger with raw onion & pickle, and that sort of thing. I should have mentioned also that if you have pain going on anywhere else in your body, this will manifest in bad dreams as well. I had carpal tunnel syndrome before it existed as an ailment (diagnosed in the early 70's as rheumatoid arthritis) and during that time I would have hideous dreams of being pursued and tortured by Nazis. If you have any chronic or nagging aches, try a simple aspirin (or your choice of analgesics) before bedtime and see if that doesn't sweeten your sleep somewhat. Good luck!
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 11:05 AM
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16. You can learn to enter
the dreams and call Goddess (or whoever) for help. I did that years ago when I was having nightmares that startled me awake in the middle of the night. Since then, I hardly ever have nightmares. But when I do, at some point in the dream, I usually become 'conscious' and can alter the outcome so that my dream self is safe and victorious.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 11:48 AM
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20. Okay, last night was a little better. Not great, but an improvement.
The dreams were still eerie; depicting an empty and barren world in which I was alone. But no monsters, no little children dying, no terrorism, no deceased (good) leaders. I don't know, but it could have been the rose/clear quartz and the red jasper, which I put by my bedside by suggestion. Egh. BlueIris no likey nightmares.
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 12:08 PM
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21. If it were me and i had those dreams, I would be practicing a meditation
when I was awake of resting in the arms of God/Goddess and that there was no place i could be that i was not in the arms of God/Goddess. 5-11 min ought to do it.
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:20 PM
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24. Have you tried aromatherapy?
1) Orange blended with patchouli can be both calming and motivating in the daytime. (Never apply unblended citrus essential oils directly on your skin. Some can be more irritating than others. I've found that tangerine oil in particular is quite sting-y.)

2) Neroli is preciously expensive, but it's therapeutic (and always reminds me of my childhood). Some aromatherapy suppliers sell neroli water: mist this on the face and body. If you have an aromatherapy supplier in your vicinity - pay them a visit and maybe you can dab a "sample" drop or two at your temples or behind your ears. I've never felt indulgent enough to spring for this, but some day...

3) I highly recommend jasmine in the evening and at bedtime. You can apply jasmine oil directly, or mix it generously with a carrier lotion, oil, or bath salts. A couple of drops in an oil warmer to fragrance your bedroom at bedtime. I have my calmest nights when I've included jasmine in my ever-rarer bathing rituals.

4) Geranium isn't my favorite scent, but it's a wonderful oil, and it too is therapeutic both to the psyche and to the skin. I'd call this a daytime oil, but it blends nicely with lavender for a balancing evening bath.

For those who are interested, there is good browsing at http://www.aromaweb.com/essentialoils/emotional.asp
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 04:55 PM
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28. Aromatherapy is fun for me, but you just listed all the ones I can't use.
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 05:00 PM by BlueIris
I've kinda burned out on tangerine/orange oil at the moment, but might go back to Aura Cacia's sweet orange in a couple of days.

Patchouli makes me nauseated and gives me headaches, neroli produces the same effect and jasmine is just too damn heavy.

Geranium would be worth trying, I guess, and it's fine that it's a day oil, as my biggest issues keep happening during the day. Fuck daylight.

Ahem. The other problem I'm having with aromatherapies right now is that my needs, desires and moods tend to shift quite a bit. One day, I'll want one oil, but be tired of it by the next. That's getting pricey. And I have to be careful about which oils I use since I will usually permanently associate an oil with a certain time period/place (at least a little). If I'm not in a good place, wearing a distinctive oil, especially one I might like to use again someday, isn't the best plan. For instance, Hurricane Katrina and the early fall Scorpio season of 2005 absolutely ruined orange oil, grapefruit oil and clary sage for me. Sucks.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:18 PM
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31. Are you familiar with homeopathics?
I have a very sensitive system too. Minute dosages of standard 'meds' work or give side effects. I take supplements, but mainstream medications are a real problem.

Changeable symptoms is indicative of Ignatia Amara. If you look into homeopathy, remember, you don't have to have ALL the symptoms listed under a remedy. You just have to match as closely as you can, your symptoms to the remedy. A professional homeopathist can help.
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 04:43 PM
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26. Another way to use journalling very effectively for me
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 04:44 PM by DemExpat
is to write down dreams like these in great detail - try to catch them upon awakening - and this always helped me understand their message as well as to give them a place outside myself where they would lose their emotional power.

It worked in this way for me!

I also tend to look at all of the feelings and actions of others as well as myself in dreams as Chemical Bill does in his post #23 above. :-)


Horrible dreams are to learn from and to be released from A.S.A.P.!!!!!!!!!

:scared:

DemEx
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:42 PM
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29. Have you tried asking your guides to help stop the nightmares? n/t
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:48 PM
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30. My guides are basically out to lunch right now.
I'm sure someone on this site will now unhelpfully tell me that there's a lesson to be learned in their absence, but WTF it is supposed to be I'll be goddamned if I know. For the record, I guess I could try asking, but I don't think that's going to help.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:32 PM
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32. How about a change of attitude?
Is that something you can manage?

Your guides don't go out to lunch. It seems you are very down, maybe you just don't see them right now?

Have you generated any ideas of your own on how to deal with your stressful situation? Are you as quick to dismiss your own ideas as you are those of others? Will it hurt to try something if you want to get over nightmares? I had two nights of nightmares, and stayed up all night the next night because I was afraid to go to sleep. I also cut out a medication that might have been responsible. I rarely have nightmares. Years ago, after a divorce and living in an unmanageable situation, I had nm's where I would be sitting in a chair that was darting all over a parking lot. I had no control of it. At that time, I believed in the devil, and supposed that it was he coming to my dreams and terrifying me. Later on, as my beliefs developed, I realized the dream was telling me that my life was out of control! Dreams mean stuff. They are your subconscious slef speaking to you. Are you willing to hear it?
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