Tell us about your astrological chart

[u4ic]

This is an offshoot of the "what's your sign?" thread.

What's interesting, different, intriguing? What's your closest aspect? Any formations in your chart (yods, t-squares, kites, etc?)

With such a fascinating group of people, I'm sure our charts will be, as well! :-)

[Crowdance]

1. Words escape me.

Because I absolutely don't know enough enough about astrology to identify anything of interest (though I'm trying to learn). But, as they say, a picture's worth a thousand words:

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Can you tell me if anything's interesting? On an instinctual level, I like that the chart's aspects seem to depict a house.

(I hope the image shows up....)

eh, I can't figure out how to make putfile display a full size image. I'll try again tomorrow.

[u4ic]

2. The link leads us to the pic

I'll leave it to the more experienced astrologers to interpret more in depth.

I see 2 t-squares Sun - Jup/Pluto - Mars/Chiron, and Sun - Jup/Pluto - Saturn.

I get a sense of a wonderful nurturer (and/or artistic talent through that Moon/Venus square Neptune), boundaries could also be a concern. (I have Venus square Neptune, understand it well) Do you work with kids or young adults, like a teacher? (I'm no expert in this, so bear with me)

Will - do you feel it's blocked? Feel powerless, then may go to the opposite extreme after keeping it down and go all out?

That Mercury conjunct SN and trine Mars would bring you excellent communication skills from a previous life, wonderful debating skills (but with both in air, looks like you can detach from your emotions and keep it on a purely logical level).

If anyone sees holes in my reasoning, feel free to correct me, as I'm still learning.


Thanks, Crowdance. :-)

[Crowdance]

4. Absolutely spot-on!!

Though I don't work with kids, I am the mother of three. I'm told that I bring a uniquely nurturing ethos to my work. I'd not considered that my communications skills, which I'm told are very good, had come from a previous life. My mother says I was a source of great amusement to my family because of my "soapbox speeches" at a very young age--incorporating both your reading of communication and debating skills. And about will--boy, that has been my struggle my entire life. I have really fabulous ideas, but have trouble beginning the process of making them real. Once I begin, however, I am unstoppable. If only I could understand what stands in the way of beginning...

Thanks for sharing what you see. It's very helpful to understanding my journey.

[u4ic]

5. Since Saturn is conjunct the NN

this is what the soul wants/needs for its growth this time.

Mercury is what you bring from your past life (south node) - some great qualities, but in Gemini, there's a LOT of ideas, but you need discipline in order to do something with those.

You brought the talent for ideas, for communication with you - your natal Sun is opposite Saturn, which means now you're learning limitations, discipline, and hard work, which might be very foreign and in fact frustrating for you. (Saturn usually is)

This isn't to say you aren't a hard worker, but in that area, you came here to learn discipline, to do something with those wonderful communication skills. It's something you have to work at it.

Saturn in its negative manifestion is very cautious, low self esteem, feeling failure, etc. Are these issues that you have, wanting to start but plagued by doubt?

Chiron is also in there with Mars, and again fear could crop up starting projects. Chiron is a huge hurt...perhaps you weren't encouraged in your life to take initiative, or perhaps you were encouraged to be 'ladylike' and suppress your masculine energy, or perhaps, with Chiron/Mars, some abuse early on which left self doubt, and possibly feeling the effects still. I don't know if any of these apply.

It's getting late, and time for bed. Hopefully this post will make sense! lol I'm curious to see what others say about your chart. :hi:

[Crowdance]

6. u4ic, urgood at this!

Discipline is exactly what I need and am lacking at this time in my life. I have a substantial list of really excellent projects--I KNOW they are good--and I've been sitting on my butt doing nothing about them for six months. It is exactly a poor sense of myself that is stopping me, and that is definitely because of both a suppression of masculine energy and abuse in my childhood. I've had a lot of opportunity lately to explore all my Saturn and Chiron issues and, sigh, they seem endless.

Thank you for this excellent information tonight. I feel just a little less guilty about myself, and a bit more inspired to buckle down. Like you, I should be asleep now, so that new determination will have to wait until at least tomorrow.

[u4ic]

24. Please don't feel guilty

Sounds like we're on a similar path. Lots of Saturn contacts through transits for me, too, as of late. Healing takes a lot of time and energy.

You have so much talent in your chart, but it will take hard work to bring it out. You will be rewarded, though. Good luck, we're here to support you! :hug:

[Crowdance]

45. Oh, u4ic...

It's wonderful to have you as my companion on this path. I'm sorry that you are have travails, but I try to remember that these are opportunities as much as they are pains. I feel your support and fellowship, and I'm truly grateful!
:hug:

[u4ic]

49. Take care, Crowdance

I believe we are all here to support each other in our journeys. :hug:

I agree, without the hardships I wouldn't be the person that I am - and I've been hit over the head enough to finally see some light...I hope. lol

I have much to learn from you - your sun is conjunct my North Node. :-)

[cassiepriam]

26. You have a karmic gift in your second house.

A gift of very good imagination and spirituality.
(nep 2h)....

This from being a good girl in one of your past lives :)

[Crowdance]

46. Thank you, Cassiepriam, for these kind words

I DO have these gifts, and I must remember to feel that I deserve them, and to have less fear of bringing them into the world. It must have been a past life in which I earned them, because I certainly haven't been a good girl in this one!!:evilgrin:

Thank you for sharing this wisdom!

[cassiepriam]

63. We are meant to use our gifts.

They are there for a reason, and if we don't use them, the talents weaken.

And it is never to late to turn our karma around, we don't have to be
perfect, we just have to learn the lesson we need to learn. Then the karma
is released and we move into a state of grace.

PS It looks like your current life mother has been your mother in past lives.
And basically this is a positive nurturing relationship, but there are a few bumps perhaps with some sort of possessiveness, an echo from past lives.

And with that Gem MC and Merc in 9h, and the 2h nep have you thought about writing?
You look like you have talent.

Edited to add the PS

[Crowdance]

83. Writing is precisely the work I'm supposed to be doing right now,

and which I'm thoroughly avoiding. I'm feeling inspired by this thread, however, so today I opened the outline of my book and I'm reworking it. A "state of grace" is what I want, and if that requires that I wrestle this karma to the ground, I'm going for it.

My Mom, btw,has been an astoundingly nurturning part of my life. I truly love her. There have been possessiveness issues, but after a lot of work with that I have some pretty good perspective on it. Thanks for the reminder that our relationships have a larger, universal aspect to them that we can use like telescopes/microscopes to really see what we're doing in this life.

My sincerest thanks for the kick in the butt this thread has been for me.

[cassiepriam]

97. This cracked me up

You said: A "state of grace" is what I want, and if that requires that I wrestle this karma to the ground, I'm going for it.

Good for you! Wrestle away. Again we do not have to be perfect, we just have to give things our best shot. Intent is just as important as outcome.

[cassiepriam]

25. U4ic, I am so happy to see you doing astrology and with a

karmic slant to boot :)))))

Keep using your gifts!

[u4ic]

51. You might have to keep on booting me

in the backside about it, too! :rofl:

[cassiepriam]

64. Oh I am really good at giving people a good kick in the behind.

All for the glory of God of course :)

Keep posting, keep doing readings, it is the only way for you to
learn and grow.

[u4ic]

85. Sweet, innocent Pisces, eh?

;)

[cassiepriam]

89. You never know what lurks behind a placid neptunian facade :)

They are never what they seem.....

[u4ic]

90. Don't I know it

having dealt with so many Pisces or strongly Neptunian people in my life (with Neptune in the 7th, they always seem to find me...)

Though strangely enough, a lot of Plutonians around me the past year; hard aspect Sun/Venus/Pluto people...:shrug:

[cassiepriam]

94. You are meeting yourself somehow? Lessons to be learned. nt

[u4ic]

98. Pluto isn't prominent at all

in my chart. :shrug:

Maybe the theme of transformation that I've been dealing with this past year?

In terms of transits, I have Pluto trine ASC/sextile DESC...

One (Sun/Pluto in Cancer) has experienced so much loss, yet has learned enough from it to work with the dying. She is a mentor to me. She's the only one of those, I think, that has dealt with her issues positively, though judging by Pluto's sign it's easy to see she's getting up there in years...:-)

[cassiepriam]

101. Pluto is very karmic and is in every one's chart.

We all must face Plutonic issues at some point in
our lives. Perhaps you are facing it now.

[u4ic]

103. When you wrote

"perhaps you are meeting yourself", that's what I was referring to...no hard aspects to Pluto in my chart (from the luminaries or personal planets), that the issues would be mirrored to me.

The pattern is too prominent to ignore, however...so there is something for me to learn from them, just haven't figured out what...(I had read about Plutonians being attracted to Neptunians, who they think they can control...since I've been breaking down boundaries I've had all my life, I thought perhaps it was about being open, but not to manipulation, as the lower Plutonians often do).

I'll just continue to keep aware. There's certainly something. :-)

[cassiepriam]

116. Maybe we are not looking at the same natal chart :)

Am I missing something? How in the world can you say Pluto is not prominent in your chart?

It is on the tip of your grand water trine kite. Opp Chiron and Saturn. Conjunct Ura, aspecting Jup amd Mars (which is the ruler of your chart. I know it is wide but with the jup conj mars the pluto energy hitting jup is going to hit mars too.) In the house of chiron, 6h ruled by merc. Aspecting yur nodes. Etc etc. It is connected to most of your chart.

Just because these are not all hard aspects doesn't mean the lessons are not to be learned. You are still working on Plutonian issues or all those aspects would not be there. And Pluto has been whacking you on the head for the past year sounds like. Please pay attention to it :)

[u4ic]

135. I think I need to remember that

I've always equated hard aspects with lessons, and the most interesting parts of a chart; soft aspects = talents.

It may be a case of not having a good enough perspective on my own chart. I've always felt distanced from certain energies, especially Uranuian, and to an extent, Plutonian. As you say, though, it's really been hitting me the past year. As has Saturn.

I need to really look at my chart in depth. I'm far too aware of the Saturn and Neptune challenges...

[cassiepriam]

139. Aspects

Everything in the chart is important. Or it would not have been included.

I have found that the so called easy aspects may not be so easy.
They are energy we have worked on in the past, but we may take them
for granted, or we may misuse them, or not use them at all.

For "easy" aspects, the goal in this life would be to integrate the energy more fully, to use the best traits of the signs and planets involved, and to actually use them for good and toward soul purpose. The easy aspects are very powerfully sources of energy in our chart and they are important for lessons as well. The squares and opps are more like energy training wheels. We are just learning that particular energy. The easy aspects are telling us we are on a ten speed bicycle and we need to really move with that energy in this life. Not ignore it!

Also I do not think that that the easy/hard interpretation always holds strictly true. We have lots of energy in our charts, we can chose to manifest it in a positive or negative way. It is totally up to individual. For example in my own chart I am struggling with some trine energy, but some of the squares and opps seem to be going much better.

[cassiepriam]

140. PS

And don't forget that Hades Moon, the Pluto/moon aspect.
It does look you have struggled with Plutonian lessons for many
lives and in this life you are hoping to finish up those lessons.
Pluto brings such drama and trauma.

[Chemical Bill]

12. I have the same Jupiter/Pluto conjunction.

As a Cancer (Sun), I feel that it is a godsend (well, Goddessend). Cancers normally have a hard time letting go of the past, and your Cancer Moon qualifies. But the Jupiter/Pluto adds the ability to make a clean break and let go of things.

Those heavy T-squares probably don't do your Cancerian nervous stomach much good. I meditate for mine.

Bill

[cassiepriam]

27. Jup/Pluto conj is going to give you an excellent ability to

regenerate yourself spirituality, and to grow through dramatic trasnmforatmion.

[Crowdance]

47. I do have a strange relationship with holding on/letting go.

I sometimes hold on to things/places/events/people for way too long, then I wake up one day and say "what the heck?" and then I'm gone. At my last job I put up with amazing garbage for YEARS, knew one day that it was either leave or die, then when I quit my boss was absolutely shocked. And I haven't had a moment of regret since--that's the clean break working.

My stomach has plagued me since I was a child, eventually evolving into colon cancer discovered 4 years ago. I've worked hard to redirect my tension and energy into more productive behaviors, particularly with shamanic journeying, drumming and dance. The proof, I guess, will be in the pudding.

I'm comforted to know a fellow traveler in these things.

[u4ic]

52. Are you cancer free now?

I hope so. What an ordeal. :hug:

Illness definitely has a way of transforming us.

[Crowdance]

55. Well, I dropped out of the medical system two years ago, so

it's impossible to be absolutely certain. Some days I'm certain that I'm fine; other days I'm certain that I'm not. It's a struggle. I find that I live on the border of this reality and the other reality anyway; I kinda like it here. Each day, as a result, feels like a decision about on which side of the divide I should exist. Were it not for my children and my drive to share what I have learned with my fellow beings, it would be simplest to simply move into that other reality and stay there. My illness most definitely did transform me;it's what lead to my exploration of shamanism, which has delivered me to the spirituality that now defines me.
u4ic, it feels so good to say these things publicly. You've empowered me in a precious way. Thank you.

[rumpel]

56. You truely are an amazing person..

and you inspire me - probably many people, too

thank you

:grouphug:

[Crowdance]

58. Oh, we need a "weeping with joy and absolute gratitude" smiley

because I need to use it right now. You are a lovely human being.

[u4ic]

3. I'll see if mine works...

The chart doesn't show the square between Mars/Jup and the ASC, nor my Sun trine ASC. Doesn't also make a t-square out of NN - Merc/Venus - Neptune/SN. :shrug:

I always thought mine was a 'plain' or boring chart, but I was told that everything (planet, point) connects back to that kite (even the Vertex is square Moon, which is square Saturn and therefore, part of the kite.

edit: I have a fair number of quintiles/bi-quintiles. I've read a little bit, but can someone explain them a bit more. Thanks. :hi:

[sofedup]

9. a number of quintiles

in a chart indicate talent and the need for a creative outlet. Do you have one, or many?

[u4ic]

22. Would that also apply

to bi-quintiles?

I was sick for a number of years, and had to drop all my hobbies; I couldn't do them. (I was pursuing a BFA in theatre as well)

Now I am starting to feel better again, I am looking for some that I can do. (theatre is still out of the question, but I love watching it)

[sofedup]

71. quintiles, biquintiles, and deciles

are all fifth harmonic aspects and, from what I've read and seen in the charts of my friends who are mostly artists, several in a chart indicate the need to participate in creative pursuits. Here is one description from Kevin Burk:http://www.therealastrology.com/HTML/FAQS/Aspects.html#Quintile

This software http://www.clairvision.org/ckb/ckbe/ckbc/fol_0000_0700/cat_0000_2222/qid_0000_2222_0014.html
is free and will calculate lots of rarely-used aspects that are not available through astro.com, including deciles.

It is good to hear that you are feeling better. :hug: It is most likely, with several quintiles in your chart, that you will be successful in finding some activity that engages your mind and your heart, but does not overtax your body.

[u4ic]

88. Thank you very much, sofedup!

:hug:

I've downloaded the program, and am trying to figure it out. This is exciting! It may give me some answers that I haven't found so far in my chart.

The realastrology site is a nice site - plenty of great info there. :-)

[sofedup]

122. wish I'd said this also

the Canopus program is one I've referred to for odd things, such as the list of rarely-used aspects. For all-around astrology software there are two, Astrolog and Astrowin, that are, IMO, better for the basics and they're both free. I use all three in addition to astro.com.

[u4ic]

136. I've got Astrolog on my computer

I'll have to check out the Astrowin.

Astro.com doesn't mention the grand earth trine (that I didn't realize I had, either), but Canopus picked it up. Pluto-NN-MC. :hi:

[Digit]

7. Here I am

I have been on a spiritual quest since a young age, I like to be the protector and fight for the underdog.
Although I have purchased books on astrology, it is not so easy to learn. Oh, I can build a computer, but I cannot fathom all the intricacies of a chart.
I just know that even though I have my sun in Leo and rising sign in Leo...I am not a typical Leo.

[Chemical Bill]

13. With the Sun conjunct Pluto...

I would bet that you are not a typical Leo. Do Scorpio descriptions sound more like you? I learned a lot about charts from a book called "Secrets From A Stargazers Notebook". The author, Debbi Kempton-Smith, is funny and opinionated. I like that. Hopefully, with your Sun/Pluto, you won't find it too frivolous.

Bill

[Why Syzygy]

15. Does she explain the houses?

I've ordered, based on your recommendation. I have astrology books, but find them rather boring.
From the reviews at amazon, it looks like this one isn't.

[Chemical Bill]

18. It's the only astrology book...

I've read cover to cover in two days. She isn't boring. And yes, she explains all the squiggles and pie slices...oops, I mean planets, signs, and houses. I hope you like it as much as I did.

Bill

[rumpel]

59. It sounds like a must have book

thanks for mentioning - I will check it out

A great many books and often online material often make me quite confused, before I can even make a decision which one to get...

:)

[Digit]

48. I checked, and no, Scorpio doesn't describe my traits

Well, maybe a couple of little things, but not enough to really consider.

Let me ask you though...does it also mean that other Leos born in the same year as myself are also not typical? Would all of us have the Sun conjunct Pluto?

[Chemical Bill]

72. Conjunctions have an orb (leeway) of 8-10 degrees...

so every Leo born within that orb has Sun Conjunct Pluto. Your Capricorn Moon is very different from Leo energy, and would also negate a lot of the Leo descriptions you read. OTOH, the first house Sun is like Aries, which is similar to Leo in many ways. All told, I'd say you have a well rounded mix that gives you more than one way of approaching life.

Bill

[u4ic]

53. That was my first astrology book!

She is a hoot, but there is so much great information in there.

I only have a part of it now, the paperback fell apart. I'm going to have to buy it again.

I remember a bit about Aries rising: "they have a match in one hand and a fire extinguisher in the other". Paraphrasing the rest - "They're always looking for trouble, and to save everyone". A brilliant analogy. :rofl:

[Jeanette in FL]

8. How do I paste my chart?

Here is the url for my chart but I can't seem to copy and paste the image. I love reading this group and I wish I knew how to interpret the chart or understand what it means. Thanks in advance for any help.

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[hippiechick]

11. save it as a .jpeg, then ...

... go to a site like www.photobucket.com which allows free hosting.
upload it there, and it will give you a 'tag' .... blah blah < end img > which you copy and paste into a message here.

:hi:

[Jeanette in FL]

16. My chart - I think I did it, Thanks HippyChick

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[Jeanette in FL]

17. Trying to make it larger

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[hippiechick]

10. Mine was posted in the other thread ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=245&topic_id=24397&mesg_id=24495


... and thanks to Cassiepriam :hug: I know a little bit more about it now than I did a few days ago.
Still have alot to learn, though.

[Why Syzygy]

14. What worries me ..

are all those vacant houses. And all the Sun activity.

Sun in Leo, Moon in Libra * Ascendant in Leo, Sun in the First House * Sun Conjunct Ascendant * Venus in the Second House * Moon in the Third House * Saturn in the Fourth House

[Chemical Bill]

20. Don't worry, worrying is bad for your health.

Besides, this is just a map. Where you go is up to you. Empty houses mean to me that those are not the most important areas of your life. But there is so much redundancy in astrology that you can cover the empty houses elsewhere. For example, the ninth house rules higher education, travel, and spiritual leanings/learning. These are also associated with Sagittarius (your Mars), and Jupiter (in your 12th house). So see, you could travel, or get a Masters, or whatever you want. So don't worry about the chart.

Bill

[cassiepriam]

29. Listen to Bill, there is no empty house really

Look at the ruler and sign.

And so called empty houses only mean that you are not
emphasizing those areas in this life for some reason.

[I Have A Dream]

19. Here's my chart

[I Have A Dream]

21. u4ic, you asked me in the other thread whether my Sun...

was conjunct Saturn, and I couldn't answer because I didn't have access to my chart until I dug it up on my work computer today. From what I can see above, it looks to me as though my Sun does conjunct Saturn. (I'm not an expert at reading these things, so I could be wrong.)

You also said 'Sun conjunct Saturn/Jupiter?'. It looks to me as though my Sun in conjunct Jupiter as well. I'm assuming that this is not good. :(

[cassiepriam]

31. Repeat after me Dream: THERE IS NO BAD NATAL CHART

And then say: My natal chart is beautiful, a gift from God.

And then: I have free will, I can chose to work the strengths of my chart
or the weaknesses. I can chose to change weak areas into strengths.

And yes, there are challenges in everyone's chart and weak areas, but we can change that. There are no planetary energies more powerful than free will. If that was not the case, why even incarnate?

I just want to cry every time I see someone repeat astrological superstition!
All the doom and gloom and scary stuff..........I wish I could go out and start teaching
all astrologers to see how beautiful each and very natal chart is....such blessings we
are given and then to be taught to be afraid of them. Agh..........

You have a lovely chart Dream, just look at that gorgeous grand water trine and kite.
And that wonderful Cap stellium. And the power from Pluto showering down on all of it.
Conjunct your NN. Part of your soul mission. Gives me goosebumps just to look at it :).
You bring so much good from past lives.

The sun/Sat conjunction means that because of so much hard work in past lives, in this one
you are blessed with the gift of a self disciplined, conscientious, persistent personality.
The Sun/Merc conjunct means you will be expressive and creative. The jup indicates that you will be inspired and good humored, generous and optimistic, a "lucky" personality.

[I Have A Dream]

35. OK, I'll make that my new mantra.

"THERE IS NO BAD NATAL CHART. My natal chart is beautiful - a gift from God. I have free will. I can choose to work the strengths of my chart or the weaknesses. I can choose to change weak areas into strengths."

How's that?!

I wish that I could see it all in 3D the way that you do. You are so gifted!

As always, thank you so much for your insight, cassie. You are such a generous person.

I'm going to go look up all of these astrological terms now. :)

[cassiepriam]

38. Very good :) ( Sorry to give you a lecture.)

I just can't stand to see such beauty denigrated.
It is your soul map, you made it before you incarnated.
It is what you wanted to work on, to help your soul evolve.
To go back to the Divine.

Any one can look at the chart the way I do.
Look at that pretty blue triangle, that looks like a kite.
(Grand water trine and kite.)
Look at all those planets lined up in Cap. What a powerhouse.

Even the red square and opp have such power, such potential.
Wow.

[rumpel]

57. I love your way, Cassie

seeing things - it is soo you - full of love :)

[cassiepriam]

65. Thanks, I never see myself as full of love. :)

Full of lots of things, but not necessarily that!

I just want people to stop being so afraid of their charts.
And learn from them.

[u4ic]

50. Dream,

you are right on when you say you want to access the Scorpio - as cassie already pointed out, your North Node is conjunct Pluto, so you're on the right path!

With the Moon conjunct Neptune and square Uranus, you have such a rich inner life! It may not be as apparent to some, with the stellium in Cappy - maybe even you, too - but it's there. I bet you can read people very well. I wonder if you often know what people are about to say before they do it?

The moon square Uranus is potentially electric, have great flashes of insight, but it may take some work, because the Cappy area of you likes to feel secure and in control. The emotional side of you, while protective, would like to dissolve a lot of those boundaries and limitations.

You already bring that all encompassing love for humanity from other lives(SN conjunct Venus in Pisces). Now's the time to do something about it.

I think your chart is fascinating! Very different energies, but breaking through the Cappy/Saturn - which is obvious that you are doing by this forum - will be the key. Instead of control (which can often happen when Cap/Saturn feels insecure), use the discipline and wisdom.

Cappy and Saturn also feel more comfortable as they age, they seem to grow into themselves more. :-)

[I Have A Dream]

62. Thank you so much, u4ic. What you and cassie have said will...

really help me to take the next steps that I need to take to become the person that the Universe knows that I can be.

You are absolutely correct. The need for security has held me back in many ways. I hope to learn to be able to trust the Universe regardless of my outer circumstances. The Universe has always taken care of me when I've needed it.

:hug:

[u4ic]

82. I fully understand the security thing

and I struggle with it, too (Moon in Cappy square Saturn).

Dream, I also wonder about your...dreams. Do you remember them? Are they vivid? Do you lucid dream, or perhaps even astral travel during them? I would pay attention to them, I bet you have some great flashes of insight from them.

I also wonder how much of the 'need for security' feeling comes about because you are so responsive to your surroundings (Moon/Neptune on the ASC, and also that Venus in Pisces). With the moon (ingrained habits) and Venus (conjunct SN), you may have brought boundary issues with you to this life, and your stellium in Cappy is grounding you, setting limits. Maybe a bit too much grounding. ;) Finding balance of course is the key.

:hug:

[I Have A Dream]

110. I very rarely remember my dreams, and when I do, they're very...

mundane. They're not vivid, they're not lucid, and i never astral travel. I get no great flashes of insight from them. The only time that I've ever had that type of experience is when I was given a strong painkiller after dental surgery a couple of decades ago. I do feel that I'd have many more psychic experiences if I experimented with drugs. (I'll never do that because I have always had a very bad feeling that I could become addicted very easily; I think that it's a past life lesson learned.)

It seems as though I have quite a bit in my chart that indicates that I should have easier access to psychic abilities, but they've not yet materialized in my life. One thing that I know is important is to meditate, which I've only recently been able to do after following cassie's suggestion to meditate with music. (I have one CD that really works for me.) The frustrating part for me is that I that it's all right there if I could only find a way to connect to it.

Yes, I agree that I have a bit too much grounding. I've recently been told in a reading by someone who channels the Ascended Masters that I need to be working on balance and better controlling my emotions, and I think that I'm starting to make progress. I guess all of this is just an opportunity to practice patience! If not in this life, maybe it will happen in the next one. :)

Thank you again, u4ic.

[u4ic]

137. I think your assertion

"I'll never do that because I have always had a very bad feeling that I could become addicted very easily; that it is a past life lesson learned." is correct, looking at your chart. That would be the moon and neptune's domain, and you've got them conjunct.

I think there must be a reason you came into this life with so much grounding. I still think you have a lot of psychic potential, perhaps you really need to be grounded to deal with it. With the sun and saturn aspects, you will have to work at everything, but with jup right there, you'll be rewarded.

I think if it came upon you without sufficient grounding, it would really throw you for a loop. Perhaps that's exactly what happened before (in another life) - and you did retreat into substance abuse to deal with the energies. Lesson learned for this life. Your soul knows what it needed to do for this one, that you would have to work for that access, little by little. That would be easier for you to handle.

(it's not unusual for people with extreme sensitivity to try and block it out by drinking/drugs)

I've always thought of you being one of the most dedicated posters on this forum - not only dedicated to the forum itself, but dedicated to learning, and expanding your spiritual horizons. You always find the most interesting articles, and I enjoy reading them immensely. :hug:

[I Have A Dream]

177. u4ic, thank you for your kind words.

In reference to your comment about sensitivity, I do indeed feel that I'm a highly sensitive person. There's a book entitled "The Highly Sensitive Person" that finally explained to me what was happening to me. (There's a test that you can take to determine if you're a highly-sensitive person at http://www.hsperson.com/pages/test.htm .)

I find that I need to be by myself more than most people do, especially after being with people in situations where I have to small talk. If that didn't work, I might feel the need to drink or take drugs to self medicate. Luckily, solitude works for me! :)

:hug:

[cassiepriam]

168. One of the things I notice is that you are very sensitive and tuned

into other people. This is a psychic gift.
One you may take for granted. The gift of compassion and empathy that is from that grand water trine you have.
The chiron trine Nep is giving you a psychic sponge talent. You can just soak up the environment without even realizing it.

I think that the gifts come so easily to you that you do not even know you have them. All psychic talents are not about channeling or clairvoyance. It can be much more subtle.

With your chiron in Aq it looks like you did suffer in the past from using your talents. And you are afraid to do so in this life perhaps. You were very forward thinking in a past life and suffered from it. You may be gun shy somehow now. And came back to get grounded and stay more connected to the senses, not ideas. If that makes sense.

Also you tended to live your life through others in past lives, and in this life you need to live more for yourself. In this life you need to find success thru yourself, not others. You need to move to the fore front and be successful in your career.

Your natal chart is loaded with psychic flags. I think that you have them but do not realize that you have them, and that also you are blocking some of them due to fear from last lives when you were punished and betrayed because of them.
I will look at your chart some more Dream.

Also you may need a kick start with some sort of transit to the kite and especially that Asc which is loaded with talent.
U4ic is better at transits that I am. Mabye she can look at that end of it?

[I Have A Dream]

184. I guess that I always thought that most people felt...

the same way, cassie. (i.e., Feels compassion and empathy, which is absolutely true for me, and it's very intense.)

It's interesting that you say that maybe I'm blocking some of my psychic ability. That's an interesting thought; I might be consciously fighting for more access and then subconsciously blocking it. Hmmm... I have to give this some thought. It's very possible. Maybe I need hypnosis to unblock it.

You say that I may need a kick start with some sort of transit to the kite. What does this mean? (Does this mean that I just need to push harder or that I just need some astrological event to occur?)

Thank you so much, cassie.

[robertarctor]

23. Here's mine, with the fixed grand cross ...

Fixed grand cross betwwen Scorpio Saturn in H2, Aquarius Venus in H5, Taurus Mars in H8 and Leo Pluto in H11,plus tight Saturn-Jupiter trine to take some pressure off, a Jupiter-Uranus conjunction in H10, a Moon-Mercury conjunction in H6, a zero-degree Aries sun in H7, Mercury the ruling planet because of Virgo ascendant and Gemini midheaven, etc., etc. Oh, and I have transiting Pluto about to make its third and final pass over my IC. Good times.

[cassiepriam]

32. You have the gift of spirituality and imagination ( Nep 2h)

And the gift of wisdom, self discipline and integration (2h Sat).

But you might have a karmic block on abundance. Look at the natal chart
thread for the karmic blessing and prayer to unblock it.

You are also very fortunate to have a powerful (trine) Jup/Mars.
This gives you the power of manifestation. You bring forward from past
lives an ability to bring into being whatever you can conceive of.
But be very careful, you can manifest negative things as well.

I love that grand water trine. A very powerful blessing from past lives. Use it wisely. You may
take it for granted, but it is there.

That fixed Grand Cross means you have some deeply entrenched karma from many past lives. You really want to work it through in this lifetime. You have struggled with it long enough.
Do it right and those squares will come back as trines next life :)

[robertarctor]

41. Thanks. And I found that blessing in the other thread

I have had what seems like a lifelong straitjacket on finances. I would like to change that and experience abundance. And I'd figured that Saturn in the second, as one corner of a fixed grand square, along with Neptune in the second, had something to do with the aforementioned straitjacket.

Anyway, thank you. As for my Jupiter and Mars, they're not trining, but they are sextile in my chart. The Jupiter-Uranus conjunction in Cancer in my tenth (which one cookbook I read said would make me very liberal, politically) is trining my second-house Saturn.

[cassiepriam]

43. Yes it looks like you had taken some sort of vow of poverty

in some last lives. And you still carry that vow with you
even though it is no longer pertinent to your current incarnation.

Oops, yes sextile, I see it. I did these in a bit of a hurry, I wanted to get everyone done tonight. A sextile of course is a good as a trine, coming back as a blessing to you.
Good karma. Very good energy.

With that jup/mars sextile you can get the karmic block off. But you have to work at
it and must stop any negativity about money. Also when you meditate ask specifically that
the old vow or block be rescinded.

[Metta]

28. Here's my information

[cassiepriam]

33. Karmic gifts of sun and moon in 2h.

You have a well developed sense of inner Self (soul) from past lives.
And psychic abilities to help you empathize with others. In past lives
you have worked on emotions and feelings.

You may have rec'd some good nurturing in this life. A blessing
from past lives.

[Metta]

37. Thank you, Cassiep.

Thanks for validating that I have psychic abilities and a well devoloped sense of myself. I've gotten good nurturing in this life from my precious wife, a real angel and my gift of love from the universe.

[cassiepriam]

40. These gifts are what you have earned from past lives.

Reaping the rewards of past hard work, love and service.
Enjoy.

[Metta]

42. I salute the divine within you.

Namaste. :toast: :hug:

[Metta]

77. Do you know what it means when all my info is on the left side of my chart

Just curious. :hi:

[cassiepriam]

79. Means a self orientation in this life.

You wanted to come back in this life and be self directed, with individuality being important.

[Metta]

80. Thanks, Cassie.

Self directions and individuality are certainly important to me.

[u4ic]

54. I should also wish you

an early happy birthday, Metta! Looks like you're born only a day or two after me! :hug:

[Metta]

76. Thank you, U. I feel pleasantly held by your acknowledgement.

Many happy returns, to you. :hug: :donut: :donut:

[Delphinus]

30. Interesting ... not sure.

But I do enjoy having Uranus in my first house. It explains much as to why society doesn't look at me as "normal". ;)

My empty seventh(?) house might also explain why I am quite content not being attached.

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And thanks for the person who said how to do this. I learned another new thing today!

Also, as I said on the "What's your sign thread", my birth chart is quite different, from a relocated aspect, than what it would be here in the states.

[cassiepriam]

34. The karmic gift of Pluto in 2h.

Brings forth a deep understanding of the cycles of life.
A knowledge of healing and regeneration that comes from past lives as a healer.

[Delphinus]

36. How neat!

I wonder if this is why I was drawn so much to healing through energy work in this life. I received my Reiki master degree only so I could have something to show prospective clients that I was "certified" (like needing a degree to get a job in the outside world). I knew, from early on, how to send energy and work with it instinctively.

Thank you cassiepriam!

[cassiepriam]

39. Yes it looks to me like you were in Egypt and or Atlantis

As a priest or priestess. You have a great deal of power associated
with that skill. In the past it has been a problem for you in some way.
In this life you are going to use it only for good, that is your intent.
I think you were forced to use your powers in ways you didn't like.

[cassiepriam]

93. No house is ever empty

Look at the signs and the rulership.
And the 8h is a house of relationships as well and you can see you had a bit of a rough go of relationships in aome past lives.

[Chemical Bill]

172. You moved away from the Uranus in the first.

What does it look like here?

Bill

[rumpel]

44. Both threads are fascinating - I am so new to actually delve

into the basics of astrology - I even downloaded one of the software programs so I can study some more... finally got to start it a few days ago...

but since I am still trying to figure out what if anything is interesting, here it is:

Sun Aries 24°01'36 08 direct
Moon Libra 20°35'00 02 direct
Mercury Taurus 13°32'18 09 direct
Venus Aries 23°56'39 08 direct
Mars Gemini 17°11'34 10 direct
Jupiter Virgo 23°37'04 01 retrograde
Saturn Sagittarius 13°56'23 04 retrograde
Uranus Leo 02°52'13 11 stationary (D)
Neptune Scorpio 01°26'13 02 retrograde
Pluto Leo 28°04'49 12 retrograde
True Node Scorpio 19°46'21 03 retrograde

House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Virgo 14°59'34
2nd House Libra 10°44'27
3rd House Scorpio 10°37'50
Imum Coeli Sagittarius 13°19'14
5th House Capricorn 16°17'35
6th House Aquarius 17°13'14
Descendant Pisces 14°59'34
8th House Aries 10°44'27
9th House Taurus 10°37'50
Medium Coeli Gemini 13°19'14
11th House Cancer 16°17'35
12th House Leo 17°13'14

Major aspects
Sun Opposition Moon 3°27
Sun Conjunction Venus 0°05
Sun Sextile Mars 6°50
Sun Quincunx Jupiter 0°25
Sun Opposition Neptune 7°25
Sun Trine Pluto 4°03
Moon Opposition Venus 3°22
Moon Trine Mars 3°23
Moon Sextile Saturn 6°39
Moon Sextile Pluto 7°30
Mercury Quincunx Saturn 0°24
Mercury Trine Ascendant 1°27
Venus Quincunx Jupiter 0°20
Venus Trine Pluto 4°08
Mars Opposition Saturn 3°15
Mars Square Ascendant 2°12
Saturn Square Ascendant 1°03
Uranus Square Neptune 1°26
Neptune Sextile Pluto 3°21

[cassiepriam]

66. Rumpel, can you post your chart.

It is much easier and quicker if I can see the chart.
Everything just jumps out that way.

Thanks.

[rumpel]

81. The picture version :)

no- it did not post - will try again



ah-this one worked!

:)

[rumpel]

92. Since the other one expired

I uploaded it:

[cassiepriam]

95. got it, looking at it. That 2h Neptune again....

this forum was named correctly.
All the gifts of spirituality and imagination.

[rumpel]

99. I probably am a candidate for the unblocking, too..

a major problem for the past 6 years...

the vow of poverty - perhaps I was a mean greedy landlord and chose to not obsess this time?

:)

[cassiepriam]

102. We may have to have an unblocking party. :)

Group prayer and perdition. You do not have 2h house sat,
not sure what is going on. Will look at your chart.

U4ic can you look at rumple's transits and see what might be going on while I look at her natal chart?

[u4ic]

104. I'll give it my best shot

:-)

[rumpel]

105. Thank you both

:hi:

[u4ic]

106. Does the retrograde (neptune) matter

in karmic astrology?

[cassiepriam]

117. retro transits are more of interest

But an R planet in the natal chart is going to mean
that the energies are more turned inward, more subtle and less conscious. This may be a reelection of karmic issues and the inner process is more the stumbling block than outward issues.

Which is a very good point in Rumpel's chart. And coincides with the point that I have been trying to make about her tsquare.

[cassiepriam]

67. It is good to study classical astrology to learn the basics.

But if you are looking for karmic interpretations
there is not a lot out there :(

[rumpel]

84. Any good reading sources?

I also noticed

the astrolabe chart and the astro chart have a +-1 degree difference on some planets.They probably take a different set of base data?

[cassiepriam]

91. Yes that can happen.

But they should be using the same base data.

Did you check to make sure you entered all your data
correctly on both sites? And did you check to see
if they are using different lat/long coordinates?
I found that sometimes that is off.

Maybe some of the other astrology folks can address this problem better than I can.

On the reading, you are looking for some good basic
classical astrology books? Or more on the karmic end?
For the basic astrology I think others here can make better
recommendations. I think most astrology books are adequate for the basic technical aspects. A house is a house, a square is a square, not really too complicated.

For the interpretations I cannot say since I do not do much classical interpretation, I just could never relate to the interpretations in those kind of books. I also do not like cookbook style, that is not the way to really understand material.

If you are interested in the karmic end I can give you lots of ideas. Let me know. Also I do not consider myself an astrologer. I am just someone interested in soul purpose, soul evolution. And I had to learn how to read a natal chart to understand the soul. Written in highly symbolic code, it takes a while to decipher.

[rumpel]

96. That will be great

I know even too little whether classical astrology has to be the basis.

Yes, soul, karmic - road map is interesting to know - especially considering what each of us came here to accomplish. I would like to see and understand that and also see if and when the cosmos is trying to tell us something - every day we make decisions and many a times a major decision could have been a misfiring -

I have several readings all of them pretty much say the same thing - and I know some are very true and say exactly how I perceive myself and where I want to go - but I also know there are issues that I just can not pinpoint - interference -self sabotage type of thing.

[cassiepriam]

100. OK

For soul map you most likely want to start reading about the nodes in the natal chart. You can get on the internet and start looking at what is there. Spiller has written material about the nodes, but there is plenty of info on the internet as well. You are going to look for NORTH AND SOUTH NODE (natal chart).

Also I want to say that I do not think we can tell in this life always whether something was a mistake or not. We are all working on many levels of karma, collective, group, family, individual, and there is no way to precisely determine what we are working on at any given time.

And even mistakes are learning experiences. The natal chart is about possibilities, free will determines what will actually happen. And in each life we have many possible directions we can take, no one necessarily better or worse.

The worst mistake in a life is making no mistakes at all. That means the soul has taken no risks or challenges. Has no opportunity to learn or grow.

[rumpel]

107. North & South

I will check that out -

Hmmm, you point to something that may have something to do with it. I have, as most readings indicated - been working in occupations that have to do with addressing the masses. However, all of them were sort of appointed - in other words not my own creation.
The past six years I have been working on my own creation, but it requires literally hundreds of collaborators- sometimes I felt - maybe the time is not right -then other times, I felt maybe I am not aggressive enough, the latter is very difficult for me to do.

Agree, plenty of mistakes and to overcome it's consequences is how we grow wiser.

[u4ic]

108. Rumpel

could you PM me your birth data? It would be easier for me to check your transits that way.

I could at least see Jupiter had been going through your 2nd house last year - which can bring good luck, but can also bring overconfidence (or overcompensation/spending)...perhaps there are some other transits that mitigate the Jup/2nd. :hi:

[rumpel]

109. forgot

3pm

thanks

[cassiepriam]

114. Yes north and south node, I will take a look at yours.

Yes it is looking to me more like career type karma, more than
financial karma. Of course the two are linked. But you can see that t square on the MC/IC/AC. It is a complicated and significant aspect due to the planets on the angles. I am going to look at that some more, so much going on and it is all entangled with family karma. But you have the 9h merc, means writing, intellectual, media, publication, higher Ed, and the Gem MC, which is saying the same thing. Talking, writing, communication, intellectual. Also some sort of duality involved. You are two different personas some how in your work.

And the block is looking like it is on your assertiveness in your career, somehow linked to your early home environment.

Your t sqare is a mutable t square. See that red triangle going from Saturn to Mars to Jup in your chart? That is very significant and something you are to work on. Since it is mutable it means the issues only came up in your last incarnation. You can deal with it in this life and be done with it, it is close to resolution, or you can ignore it but then it will become more entrenched and keep coming up over and over again for you.

It looks like you may tend to be hemmed in a bit by some rigidity and you may benefit form getting some outside help or education to help you with the career impasse. Also at the same time you have the ability to be assertive but it is difficult for you due to some child hood experiences, and you can be impatient and changeable. So these are issues that need to be resolved. You may need to face issues head on, not avoid them, and more efficient in your work. You do have a good chance for success, but you are going to have to really work to make some changes.

Long story short, it certainly looks like all the pieces are there to be successful but you are holding yourself back with old karmic issues around your will, assertiveness and work style.

[rumpel]

124. Very true

It is quite dead on in the profession(s), I have held so far in my life. Maybe what I have created is so much bigger than myself - it has never really been attempted before.
I will study some more on the financial karma, now that I understand where to look.

I will study the mutable t square. Whatever it turns out to be, I sure would like to be done with it.

And yes, I have been looking for the outside help, but perhaps have been knocking at the wrong doors or at the wrong times?
On the childhood assertivenss issue, I have to ponder a little.

Great help, thanks Cassie.

:hug:

[cassiepriam]

115. Oh your nodes are not in your chart

Go back to one of the astro sites and see if you can
get your nodes......

[rumpel]

123. Here is the node

I think it is

N -Scorpio and S Taurus

Last night, I did study just the basic N/S node material on the net. Thanks for guiding me to it.
What I find is that the Taurus not being able to let go of posessions is not an issue at all. I never had material wants. Maybe I worked that one out the last life. :)
But it is true that I end up doing everything myself. I learned to delegate in my profession -because there are just too many divisions, but I tend to be quite selective perhaps. And I love to collaborate and work within teams. In hindsight, it feels like Michael Newton's soul group study environment. ;)
I do have a tendency to do things for others - which I know, is not helping them - but hurting them at the end. I am trying to step back, especially when the task is not critical affecting others.

The explanation also says to look at the conjunctions as the planets emphasize each other and work together. However I do not see anything within the 10 degree angle of the Taurus.

But is the moon conjunct, here in the N? Or does one also look at the signs as they seem to be within the 10 degrees, Libra and Scorpio, straddling Libra and Scorpio?

[u4ic]

178. Hi Rumpel,

Jupiter was going through your 2nd house, which normally should bring some good financial fortune with it, or at the very least, optimism. (for some, it can bring overspending, but that's not your situation at all)

Right now, T (transiting) Saturn is square your natal Mercury (9th, and also ruler of your MC), and opposing Chiron, all in fixed signs. Communication could be difficult, perhaps some loopholes in plans (structure of plans?), it not quite gelling together, misunderstandings between parties, or opposition from a group(s) (as T Saturn is in the 11). Perhaps even not being able to compromise at all on any issues.

Neptune was going over your Chiron/Vertex in the 5th. (the 5th, btw, is the house of entertainment, among other things)

That Chiron/Vertex is in a t-square with Mercury (communication, also the ruler of your MC) and your North Node (where you are heading, where you need to grow, in the 3rd which is, among other things, communication).

Neptune going over Chiron (major wound, but also the wounded healer) and Vertex (people who appear suddenly, for your soul growth)would have brought some shady/unreliable people into your life. Considering what it's also hitting, miscommunication or promises that won't be kept. It is now retrograde and will come within a half degree of Chiron again, so it's not quite over, but will go direct in mid October.

Neptune moves slowly, and has been hitting that aspect for about a year and a half. Add another couple of months.

You've also got transiting Pluto trine your natal Sun/Venus, it's a very important transformative time for you on a personal level. It will bring positive and life changing results. Since it's in the 4th (family, roots) and trine your sun/venus in the 8th (inheritances, other people's money), it could account for the help. .

I think things will start looking up by the end of the year. I'm not an expert at this by any means; you've got a lot in your chart, a lot of t-square (energy, drive) and a kite in there, too, which is talent (often, talent we don't realize we have because of the grand trine involved in the kite). So much involved with your midheaven - t-squares with your midheaven or Mars conjunct it; t-square with the ruler of your midheaven; and a kite with your midheaven.

Hope this helps. (some new info in here for you!) :hug:

[rumpel]

179. thanks u4ic, I am studying vertex

one explanation

THE VERTEX IN THE NATAL CHART
by Lynn Koiner

The Vertex is almost always found on the right or occidental side of the horoscope. The exception occurs in extreme northern latitudes. The occidental side of the horoscope is co-dependent and other-directed so that the Vertex represents characteristics, attributes, qualities and skills to be cultivated in this lifetime through the demand and urging of other people. For those interested in esoteric astrology, my theory is that the Vertex indicates the Ray energy to be cultivated in this lifetime – a shift in the personality, astral or mental body.

When there are transits or progressed aspects to the Vertex, the qualities of the Vertex sign will be emphasized. Under favorable aspects, we are drawn by people (indicated by the House position) to express the aptitudes of the Vertex sign. Under afflictions, we seem to have problems with the Vertex sign energy.
http://north-node.com/astrology-tutorials/the-vertex

and applying this to my present business relationships..... :think:

next I am going study the kite and about my midhaven :)

and I see I better make use of the next 2 months to improve and learn on all levels

:hug:

[u4ic]

180. Now I can REALLY start bugging Cassie

to look at the vertex. :rofl:

[emcguffie]

60. Okay. I have Chiron partile my Sun in Capricorn.

In the fourth house. Less than half a degree.

I would dearly love if someone would help me with that. I do have a chronic illness.

Virgo ascendant. Leo Moon conjunct Pluto in 11th house, opposite Venus in Aquarius in fifth house and Mars in Pisces in sixth house.

But that Cap Sun partile Chiron in fourth. Help?

[cassiepriam]

69. That Chiron is giving you lots of info about parent/family issues.

Your health issues are more linked to the 6h mars in Pisces. Lots of old karma coming back. Can you tell me the ruler of your 6h and if there is any thing else in that house?

The 4h Chiron partile Sun is telling you that a parent in this life, most likely your father, has been a parent in another life. And you chose to come back into a wounded or wounding family, feeling unsafe to learn some important lessons n this life. You are meant to let go of the deep pain and find an inner home, in your inner Self.

Chiron in Cap is saying the same thing. You have been wounded by authority figures in the past. Or may have done the wounding. Again the lesson is to build your own inner authority, trust your instincts and build confidence in your inner self. This will help heal the wounding.

The 11h Pluto echoes this theme, issues around power, abuse, manipulation. Ether as victim or perpetrator. You are meant to sort it all out in this life. Use your power wisely and for good.

[Ecumenist]

61. Well, for the Astrologers here you'll see it

Or so I've been told by Astrologers who've glimpsed my chart... The other Intuitives call me the Spooky one because of the detail that I get in the readings I give, the things I hear and the dreams I dream.. My question here is does anyone see any chance of my conceiving, carrying TO TERM and deliverying just one wee bairn? Though I would love more than one, I would be eternally grateful for one little Eilis for me and my DH. I got pregnant, unbeknownst to me, in March of 2003 and by the time I found out I was pregnant, on my 3rd anniversary, I miscarried 3 days later on May 9th @ 6:30 am.




Cassie, I'd LOVE you to see what pops up in my chart from your viewpoint. Your karmic analysis fascinate me. Is there anything karmically that explains why I have had such a hard row to hoe and so much illness and abuse as a child, (physical, sexual, emotional and psychological)?

[cassiepriam]

68. It is the Saturn in 5h...

Saturn in the fifth house indicates a delay or difficulty in conceiving a child. It may take more time and effort but you need to hang in there. (Also if need be, you can get some help from your OB GYN).

You have a karmic delay on conception due to some past life issues. You have possessed much creative talent for many past lives, but you either didn't use your talents or took the products of your creativity for granted, or did not value them. In this life you are going to have to struggle a bit so that you can obtain a sense of the value of your ability to create, to value children.

This theme is also repeated in your reversed nodal positions. You have been struggling for many lifetimes around issues of nurturing. In this life you are to move toward a more nurturing, emotionally giving stance, away from being strict and authoritarian. This has been a struggle for many lives and in this life you are meant to finally get it all sorted out.

Edit for spelling

When you do have a child, you are going to see the child more as an equal, and value the creativity and worth of the child.

[Trailrider1951]

70. OK, here's mine

I've often wondered about the significance of Pluto squarely on my ascendent.

[Chemical Bill]

74. Pluto rising....

>I've often wondered about the significance of Pluto squarely on my ascendant.

You and Metta (post 23) both have that. You are a Sagittarius, which is known for being friendly, optimistic, and light-hearted. That Pluto rising adds a heavy dose of power. It probably quiets you down (so does the Sun/Moon in the 4th) as Pluto types don't like to broadcast their secrets. Sagittarians sometimes are resistant to being responsible, but the Pluto rising adds an ability to go to the mat for those you care about. You are probably good in an emergency.

Bill

[cassiepriam]

86. pluto and more

Pluto on the asc indicates that you will be an intense somewhat obsessive person in this life, power oriented, and since it is in Leo that is more the case. You were most likely famous and held a great deal of power in a past life. You bring that sense with you in this life.

Pluto in the 12h is a heavy karmic placement. Again the probability of some obsessions, compulsions and phobic issues stemming form past lives. And you may have had issues with abuse of power in a past life.

You also have that pretty angel wing, can you see it? A bit unusual but so lovely. The two t-squares with the little gap at the bottom. Means that you want to take off in this life, and transform from the mundane to the esoteric and spiritual.

You also have that karmic block on abundance, the 2h Saturn. Read the other posts if you can for the meditation that should help take the block off. You had an old vow of poverty that you may have trouble shaking in this life. But that mars/ jup aspect should give you the power to manifest. This means that you can bring into being that which you conceive.But it is uneven energy for you right now, you are learning to use it.

You also have the karmic gift of wisdom, self discipline and integration. And with mars in the 2h which is the karmic gift house you have brought forward will, courage and assertiveness from past lives.

Also with that jup in Aries in the 8h you have a gift of helping others becoming the best they can be. That is such a nice placement. And if you can learn to use that mars/jup energy it will be very powerful. You aren’t too sure about how to use it, but it is there.

Both your parents look like they were with you before, that is not typical. They were your parents before. Oh and it looks like you came back with a sibling from past lives as well. Your sib may have been a best friend from a past life. You may also feel somewhat responsible for a sibling. And there may be a sibling in this life who is not quite what he or she appears on the surface. Oh there is complicated sibling and family karma, looks like some sort of woundedness with a sibling. And a sib who is more like your parents, lots there to unravel. Your parents have been trying to balance that sag and gem energy with you for some time. Oh and Scorpio and Taurus in the mix. Complicated family karma, you are hoping to work it all thru in this life. You may be trying to break free from the possessiveness of it all in this life.

Somehow with that 3h Neptune you may like like an outsider in the family or a sense of being swamped, trying to keep your head above the emotional fray. This is a placement where the soul tends to feel like he was adopted, different from the rest of the family.

I do not know if any of this fits, but that is what the chart is indicating.

[sofedup]

73. here's mine

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[rumpel]

131. the pix expired, sofedup...

happened to me, too

I copied the image onto my computer and then uploaded it to photobucket

[sofedup]

132. wish I had time

to figure out how to do that now. It's been interesting reading about people's charts.

[Love Bug]

75. Here's my chart

I, too, have a sun/pluto conjunction. You should see my daughter's chart -- she has a grand fire trine AND a grand water trine. Woooo....

[Dora]

78. A picture is worth a thousand words...

I am amazed that the geometry of the universe is reflected in our characters. What a yod, t-square, or kite is, I don't know. But I'm happy.

[wovenpaint]

87. As I'm relatively clueless, here's my chart for your perusal

I'd be very appreciative of learning more!
And-I'm looking forward to reading the responses to the posts in this thread-looks like you have plenty to look at, lol.




:hi:

[Chemical Bill]

183. Sorry it took so long.

I think all your air signs were hard to grasp. ;-)

Anyway all that air makes for a friendly and sociable chart. Saturn in the 4th provides either a balance or a weight, depending on your POV.

I see you as very people oriented, but it wouldn't suprise me if you put energy into rolling up your sleeves and caring for others in a practical way as well. Maybe you cook for your friends/family, or know about herbal medicine. But more than anything you want to see people, to talk, to connect (and sell your weaving?).

Bill

[wovenpaint]

191. Thanks for the insight!

I figured that I'd gotten lost in the shuffle. Thanks, I'm starting a new venture so this makes sense.
:hi:

[Digit]

111. This is like an astrology immersion program!

I am enjoying looking at everyones chart and reading the analysis although taking some of the information and comparing it to my own chart is worrying. I was reading information on someone else's Jupiter and checked my own on some other sites and the aspects were really cruddy.

Then of course, we all have our own challenges we set up for one reason or another, so I am attempting to change my perspective.

Please continue analyzing....
I am getting alot out of this thread and loving the insights!

[Digit]

112. Dang, 111 again....

This has been happening frequently these days.

[I Have A Dream]

127. I personally would view 111 as very GOOD!

Lucky you! :)

When I see 1:11 or 11:11 on the clock, I take it as a gift from the Universe.

[Digit]

133. Sorry, I did not mean "dang" in a bad way, but that I was amazed

This just began happening to me in the past two months or so, and it is
still somewhat of a novelty.
Makes me smile everytime.

[rumpel]

113. I agree.

I am going back and forth with google and my journal where I keep source info - I think I am finally starting to get a feel for, well, towards understanding some of the concepts.

but now it's off to bed - just got a new book :) (not astrology, though)

[cassiepriam]

118. No cruddy aspects

Just lessons to learn or karma to burn off.

All of it is what you chose for yourself. To help your soul
grow and evolve. If you work it thru in this life you can be done with these particular lessons.

[I Have A Dream]

126. I agree, Digit! It's really fun to try to see what the astrologers are...

seeing in people's charts. This is the way that I learn best!

:)

[Dragon Turtle]

119. Here's mine

[cassiepriam]

145. Hi Dragon

Such a pretty grand trine, earthy and airy, with fiery kite. And look your kite is two tailed. This is a lot of positive strong easy energy for you. It will manifest in a number of areas for you but will be released in your career primarily.

I think we are going to have to rename this forum the KITE CLUB. I have noticed that so many here have kites. I do not see that happening so much any where else but here. Lots of good energy.

Your 2h gift house is full! You must have been good in a past life! Sun indicates that you have developed your inner self in the past. And relationships and creative energy are well developed for you. With a 2h Chiron you have a powerful healing ability carried forward the past.

Looks like a current parent was a sibling in your past life.
You may have had strict parenting in this life, and one parent that you tended to idealize.

And Nep on the MC means that you are very sensitive and open to your environment.

Also it looks like in some of your past lives you were a somewhat macho male, looks like you were a soldier fighting wars. In this life you are to better integrate that energy and learn some sensitivity and gentleness. Perhaps a more artistic nurturing side.

You also look like you tended to over indulge in past lives,
perhaps overspending and eating kind of thing. You have been working on this is your more recent past lives and it is getting better.

[Jeanette in FL]

120. No one commented on my chart, message #16

I was having trouble posting my chart, but I did get it up there. I would love to learn more. Could someone take a quick look, even though it is a smaller image. :cry:

[Dragon Turtle]

121. You need to post a larger different pic of you chart

The image you posted is thumbnail sized and too blurry to read.

Also, use the url without tags or the link with [] instead of < > for posting an image.

[I Have A Dream]

125. Jeanette, the image is totally missing now. Did you change its name...

in your Photobucket account? If you did, it won't show any longer because the old name is there.

Maybe the best thing to do is to start over. If you want, you can go through the process again of creating your chart (because the original one has timed out), and, if you PM the link to me, I'll put it in my Photobucket account and post it for you.

[cassiepriam]

143. A number of the posts had missing charts, expired.

That is why I have not responded to them!
Plus I was running out of time and energy.
So many charts, so much fun :)

[I Have A Dream]

129. OK, your chart is showing below.

:)

[u4ic]

134. Jeanette, I noticed your chart

I said "wow"! Very concentrated energies.

I will see if I can make some sense of it after I look at a couple of other charts I promised. :hi:

[cassiepriam]

144. Yes a very interesting and pretty chart....

Wow, look at all that Leo energy.
Will take a look at it too.

[Jeanette in FL]

147. It looks so different from most charts I have seen

Thank you too, I appreciate your help.

I know most of the basics of Leo, but I wished I knew more about all the little details of what a chart means. I know more about numerology than I do about astrology, but any help we can get along our trip is absolutely appreciated. Thank you again for taking a look.

Edit: Typical Leo, Look at all the I's. I, I, I, aye, aye, aye. Only wish that I had spent time on me the first fifty years.

[cassiepriam]

148. LOL I was thinking it was so Leo for you to say, "hey why isn't

any one looking at my chart, don't forget about me."

If that had happened to me, my chart overlooked, being a shy sensitive Pisces I would have taken it personally and had my feelings hurt, but never said a word. Just moped. :)

And yes I guess you do know about Leo, I think if I ever have any Leo questions I am just going to ask you!

Yes your chart is a bit unusual, just telling you that Leo energy is important for you in this life. And then the fire moon too. The Libra ascendant should help calm all that fire down a bit, and the nep first house. You are wanting to learn about power and empowerment in this life and personal authority.

You are supposed to be a pretty outgoing personality, head strong, self focused, very self expressive, enthusiastic proud etc.

(I am dying to know what your hair looks like. Do you have a full thick mane?)

You like so many here have that Saturn 2h, means that a karmic block on abundance. (Geesh all the rich folks must be on the freeper board :(. ) If you look at some of the other posts about manifestation you can try to unblock it. You should be able to do it. You have mars and jup conjunct. Just be careful with all that energy. I wonder how many things you blew up in past lives with all that fire. :)

With that sun/jup you should be a lucky optimistic personalty. Self assertive, courageous bold, Actually I am think it is kind of good you have a Saturn square that stellium I do not know what the others think. Will perhaps tone all that Leo down. Karmically Sat in the 2h gives you wisdom, self discipline, and integration. And it is flowing into all that fire energy. But Saturn is lord of karma, if we don't learn our lessons, he can get persistant.

You have a reversed nodal axis. This means that you have been working on balancing Sag and Gem energy for many lifetimes and you want to finish that piece of your soul work up in this life. You are meant to learn to communicate in this life. And communicate what is, as well as what you believe in. Developing your belief system and then communicating it to others. You have a sign of a dual life somehow, a double life. Also you may also have some karma with a sibling that is going to be connected to soul growth.

You most likely had a difficult childhood. And perhaps a wounded parent. And some chaos.

In this life your emotions are going to color your relationships.

You also may use more nurturing and empathetic talents at work. And while you basically have a strong constitution you can react to stress strongly and may have a bit of a quirky sensitive reaction physically to things.

11h is of course very important for you. That is group, society, friends. On the one had with that fire stellium in the 11 you should find it easy to relate to to others to fit into society. However you do have that Saturn square which may throw stumbling blocks in your way.

Also you might want to go to astro.com and redo the way your chart is drawn. Check the box ASPECTS TO ALL, and then you are going to see the aspects to the nodes and chiron. If you want to see the whole picture you need to see those aspects as well.

[I Have A Dream]

151. cassie, I created her chart for her, and I can't find the...

'ASPECTS TO ALL' box that you describe. I can get the aspect information in PDF format, but I don't know how to get that to appear here. (Photobucket won't allow me to upload it.) If I post the link directly, it will time as many of the direct links here did. Am I missing something? (Is the box someplace that I'm missing so that the chart itself will show the aspect information without it going into a PDF file?)

[cassiepriam]

152. Yes it will show up in the chat itself

When you are on the selection page of astro.com,
on the left hand side it will allow you to select

House System
additional objects

(Then Dream there will be small boxes and you just check
the one below that says ASPECT LINES TO ALL.)

always use True Node
always use day formula for Pars Fortunae (standard is: different formula day/night)
aspect lines to all
add some fixed stars
topocentric positions
draw no aspect lines

If you can not do it, I can, I do this about a hundred times a day it seems like :)

[I Have A Dream]

153. OK, is this what you need, cassie?

[cassiepriam]

154. Yes perfect, thank you Dream

Dream I have been reading more and more about
how the energy we received from the Divine is
a lot like computer file transfer etc. Our souls
are downloaded energy and spiritual codes of some sort.

And the Akashic records are like a huge data base,
all life possibilities are stored, all of them.
And then we can access the ones that have actually
occurred due to free will etc.

Maybe you are getting ready in this life to do that kind of
work :)

[I Have A Dream]

157. It's fun to think about, isn't it?

I loved having that previous discussion with you about this.

It's strange that you and I had both been thinking about this same issue in the past. :)

[cassiepriam]

159. Apparently others are beginning to think about it too.

I am seeing more speculation about it in my readings.
It is the only way that such large amts of info and energy
could be handled.

How would you like to be in charge of the akashic records? Or all the transit energy hitting the planet it any given day?

[I Have A Dream]

165. Is this a job offer?

:rofl:

[cassiepriam]

166. LOL you will have to submit your resume to the Ascended Masters

.... with references of course.

But I hear the pay is only in good karma, not dollars.
And you have to work for all eternity and are on call 24/7.

But you do get a few perks, such as free aura cleansing and free meals at the heavenly cafeteria :)

[I Have A Dream]

167. Sounds like my current job...

"...work for all eternity and are on call 24/7". (Not really. ;))

[cassiepriam]

171. LOL nt

[cassiepriam]

155. Chiron hitting venus, and ura but really the whole stellium

will feel the energy. Nep, moon gets hit with the chironic
energy as well.

[Jeanette in FL]

174. What a fascinating read, thank you dearly

My Gosh, how true this is. I am fascinated.

My Hair, yes it is full, long, light brown, not as thick as it was when I was younger. In my younger days, I would spend hours on my hair, getting it just right and if it wasn’t, I would start over again. Back in the 60’s and 70’s I would iron my hair so that it would be super straight and long. Boy that sure dates me.

In this lifetime, I have no need for materialism in the least. Since I was a child, I would have these dreams of a house burning. As the years went by little bits of information would present itself in the dreams regarding the house. The house was enormous. Eventually I recognized “me” outside the house screaming. But I could never understand the words I was screaming. I was very elegantly dressed, long full type of dress. There were many people around. Eventually, in the dreams, the people around me were the servants and I was screaming for them to go into the house. I was screaming “Do something, save my stuff”. Many people died and I “recognized” my husband as one of the servants that I ordered back in the house. Once I had the full dream, I have never had the dream again.

Strange thing, I met my husband when we were 11 and 12 years old and my family had just moved into a new house. He was playing with my younger brothers, riding their bikes into the side of the house. I went to the window to yell at them and there was a quick flash of light on top of his head. I didn’t realize it then, but someone was trying to give me a message “he’s the one”. We were friends all through junior and senior high school. I would do his homework, write his reports, clean his room and help him with girl friend problems. If anyone at that time told me he was the one I was going to marry, I would have said they were crazy.

I hate conflicts and avoid them at all costs. I usually play the mediator in conflicts, because I can see both sides of each arguments and can get each side to understand where the other person is coming from. This has played out numerous times.

Childhood was difficult and chaotic and definitely had a wounded parent, both of them probably.

Thank you so much for doing this for me, it really clears up many things and makes sense of what is going on in my life. Very cool.

[Jeanette in FL]

146. Thanks, I appreciate your insight

I have always been fascinated by astrology, but this was the first time I ever went looking for my chart and was very surprised at how it looked. Much different then those that I had seen before. Really appreciate all the help I received from Hippiechick and I Have A Dream for getting my chart up here.

I have been reading up on all those that you guys have been interpreting and it is a wonderful read.

[cassiepriam]

142. Way too tiny for me to see, even with my new glasses! nt

Oops I saw it, Dream just posted it.

[I Have A Dream]

128. Here is the chart for 'Jeanette In FL'

[rumpel]

130. Wow, looks like a pyramid...

:)

looking forward to see analyses...

[Sanity Claws]

150. So much Leo

Do you have a lot of Leo traits? Or does your Libra ascendant show up more in your personality?

[cassiepriam]

156. Theoretically shouldn't the Libra Asc be overshadowed with all that Leo?

But I am really curious too, how it all manifests for Jeanette. She could be a case study for Leo :).


(I can't wait to hear if she has a Leo mane of hair)

[lildreamer316]

138. Here's mine..

although a couple of very nice ppl here have already run down some parts of it for me.
I, also, am not exactly a "typical" Leo; but in some ways I am very much so.

[Chemical Bill]

198. Hi Lil.

I'm sorry, I wasn't ignoring you. There are just so many similarities in our charts that I was afraid of not being objective. But I have a Moon in Aquarius, so if anybody can be objective, I can. You have that dramatic Leo Sun, which seems to be all over this thread. The Cancer Moon is soooo sensitive. You have a strong mix of the practical, the emotional, and the creative. Those can sometimes be at odds, or they can blend well. Deep down you know who you are, and are happy for it, but there is a streak of needing approval. That Leo Sun Likes everybody's attention, but the Cancer Moon wants just one person as an ally against this sometimes harsh world. For all the talk about Cancers being conservative, we are a cardinal sign, and we make our own path. Sometimes we go in the opposite direction from the masses, and that ally could remind us that everybody else could, in fact, be wrong. That Saturn in the 1st make you deliberate, if not slow. You may have had much responsibility when you were young. You will grow younger, and play more as you age.

Bill

[sofedup]

141. try again

http://imageshack.us>

house cusps are:
1/7 4 Scorpio/Taurus
2/8 28 Scorpio/Taurus
3/9 24 Sagittarius/Gemini
4/10 23 Aquarius/Leo
5/11 16 Pisces/Virgo
6/12 10 Aries/Libra

Sun 19 Virgo
Moon 27 Gem
Merc 7 Virgo
Venus 10 Libra
Mars 9 Sag
Jupiter 20 Taurus
Saturn 14 Libra
Uranus 17 Cancer
Neptune 20 Libra
Pluto 21 Leo
N Node 19 Aquarius
MC 23 Leo

Thanks in advance for any comments.

[Sanity Claws]

149. Grand square here

Here's a link to my chart: http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?rs=3&btyp=w2gw&&cid=yjufiletsQagQ-u1067905769

I tried following the instructions above to post the chart but after a half-hour of attempts, I gave up. I opened an account at photobucket but everytime I tried to save the chart, photobucket said it couldn't save it in that program. Maybe my chart will reveal the secret behind my not being able to do something that seems relatively simple. ;)

[I Have A Dream]

158. The information's not showing, isos. If you want, I can post it for...

you. You'll just need to give me your time, date & location of birth. Please don't feel bad; it's not really that straightforward until you do it a few times.

:hug:

[Sanity Claws]

161. Thank you, IHAD

I'm glad you're patient.:yourock:
Info: 5/26/56 (that's a secret! ;)) at 3:30 PM, Brooklyn, NY (the borough of Brooklyn, Kings County.)
Cassie looked at my chart from a karmic point of view about two months ago. She did a great job, too. I kept confirming what she picked up. I'd love to see what you pick up, particularly now since I see to be at a major turning point.

[I Have A Dream]

164. I posted it further down in the thread.

I can't read charts myself, so hopefully someone else will have something to add upon seeing it.

[catzies]

185. I saved my astro.com chart as a .jpg picture & that uploads to Photobucket

just fine. Try that, if you haven't already.

[Digit]

160. Cassie, did I do it right this time?

I tried to follow your additional instructions in post 152. I had no idea this additional information was an option. Nevermind that I would have not known what to choose!

My chart reminds me of a game of pickupsticks. :hi:

[Digit]

162. Whoops, may be important in your instructions!

The box that says: "always use day formula for Pars Fortunae (standard is: different formula day/night)"

Is this supposed to be checked or left unchecked?
In the chart above, I selected YES, and when I tried it without checking the box...the symbol of a cross within a circle moved to another house. In this case, it moved to the 8th house

[cassiepriam]

170. I leave it unchecked, so that I use the day/night formula,

Which I think is the standard. The Pars Fortune changes
depending upon whether you are a day or night birth. And some people just use the day birth formula all the time.

To be honest I do not know much about Pars Fortune, I don't use it much. I do like to see where it is in a chart. But it is not a focus on my work. One of these days I want to study it some more.

Maybe some others can comment on Pars Fort and which formula they use and why.

Isn't astrology fun ::

[cassiepriam]

169. Yes, perfect, many thanks!

Yes looks like a lot of colored lines doesn't it?
All those lines mean something. And then when they form
certain geometrical shapes there is additional info.

I think I already commented on this when Dream posted it?
But I am getting confused, I have looked at so many charts in the past two days.

[I Have A Dream]

163. Here's the chart for 'in search of sanity'

[Chemical Bill]

173. I have limited computer access...

and can't post my chart, but if someone wants to I was born 6/25/56; 12:14 pm edt; Warwick RI. I don't feel right looking at everybody while keeping my chart hidden.

Bill

[I Have A Dream]

176. I posted your chart further down in the thread, Chemical Bill. n/t

[Chemical Bill]

181. Thanks, I guess this thread is dead now.

I killed it with my chart! Oh, anguish!

Bill

[I Have A Dream]

182. I don't think that the thread's dead. I'm pretty sure that...

people will still post in it for existing charts.

However, if you want me to post your information over in the other thread, please let me know.

[I Have A Dream]

175. Here's the chart for 'Chemical Bill'

[catzies]

186. I'm 8th house heavy, lots of squares and 2 major planets retrograde.

And right now Saturn in Leo is giving me a hard time, but it's not my Saturn Return.

[Chemical Bill]

187. Isn't Saturn past you for now?

Let's see, Leo Sun is dramatic, Sagittarius rising is outgoing and honest, and Cancer Moon is quiet and taciturn. I bet 2 out of 3 takes it.

Bill

[catzies]

189. Yup, that's me..and Saturn In Leo's been kicking my butt since last year

Go figure. :hi:


(And add Venus in Virgo to my mix too, probably why I remain single :D )

[Chemical Bill]

194. >probably why I remain single

I bet that's the Sagittarius rising. Sag likes freedom....

Bill

[cassiepriam]

188. Are we moving to a new thread? I have been offline for a few days.

My computer crashed.

I had some notes on Chem Bill's chart that are gone now :(

Will get back with you Bill if you are still interested.

[I Have A Dream]

190. I think that they just started a new thread because this one got so...

large. I'm assuming that it's for new charts that will be posted.

Sorry to hear about your computer, cassie. :hug:

[cassiepriam]

192. I came back and this thread was defunct and

we are talking about paisley underwear on another
thread. Doesn't pay to stay gone too long from this forum. :)

Thanks Dream! Tried to install a network, was a bumpy ride :(

[Chemical Bill]

193. Oh, no, I hate when people talk about me.

Can't you tell by the 10th house Sun? ;-)

Oh, alright, talk about my chart, only to help the others understand astrology. ;-) :hi:

Bill

[rumpel]

195. Quite difficult for me...

So many connecting lines...

Looking forward what cassie and u4ic will say...

:)

[cassiepriam]

196. Such noble spirit and self sacrifice for the profession :) nt

[Mnemosyne]

197. Hi! I can't seem to post the chart image. What am I doing wrong

u4ic? I've had a very strange life. Is that reflected in the chart?

Thanks for any knowledge anyone here can impart! :hi:

http://www.tarot.com/astrology/chartwheel/wheel.php?mode=wheel_graphic&wargs=-qa+3+25+1958+11%3A19a++0+96W40+40N48&key=51323494