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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 01:27 PM
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March 14: Lunar Eclipse (Full Moon) in Virgo
It's my understanding that lunar eclipses can be very healing. Eclipses of the Moon are usually about letting go of an old habit or releasing something from the past.
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 03:00 PM
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1. This intrigues me
as I have a kite formation in my chart, and this lunar eclipse conjuncts the top of it (Uranus/Pluto in the 6th - Saturn/Chiron opposes it).

My physical health is not good, and I'm working on some emotional issues as well - I'm wondering if this may bring something for me.

I'll post if anything interesting or unusual happens, whether it be external or internal. :)
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 07:41 PM
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10. Oh my...
Edited on Mon Mar-13-06 07:41 PM by u4ic
I just noticed that transiting Sun/Mercury is on my natal Chiron/Saturn, which is the other end of that kite.

Both ends of my kite are getting hit. :crazy:
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 03:47 PM
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2. Virgo is my moon sign
Capricorn sun. I've felt like blubbering every three minutes for the past couple of days; everything seems to upset me way more than usual. I can't wait for this and the Mercury bleepin' retrograde to be over. Let me out of the pressure cooker, please. x(
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 04:48 PM
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4. My sister is a Cappy with a Moon in Virgo, too.
She's also a little churned up at the moment and Mercury retro has been seriously messing with her. Good luck, I'm sure it's frustrating.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 05:11 PM
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7. Thanks, good luck to your sis too
Edited on Mon Mar-13-06 05:11 PM by Mandate My Ass
This particular Merc RX is in Cap's communications zone, so it's doubly frustrating. Even though I've been going over things twice as intently, I still keep screwing up. My rewrites are worse than some of my drafts. I guess I'd better go with the flow than stress out, which has always had one consequence and one only - I end up making myself sick.

I found this interesting graph from the link Shine so kindly posted.

This is a serious Full Moon, ripe with potential for health and healing. Virgo screams for us to pay attention to the body and take responsibility for our health. If you are currently dealing with a serious health issue, don't take anything at face value. With Mercury and Uranus in Pisces conjunct the Sun and opposite the Moon, deep questioning about your illness is in order along with openness to alternative or new approaches. What are the psychic causes of physical illness? What are the spiritual implications of disease? What is my body trying to tell me about my life? If my current methods are not working, what healing processes have I rejected in the past due to a fear of trying something different?

Thank you both. :hi:

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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 04:17 PM
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3. Plus, the effects of a full moon lunar eclipse can last longer, too.
here's an interesting link to check out, if nobody has seen this yet:
http://www.astrowisdom.com/thisfullmoon.htm
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 05:01 PM
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6. That is a fantastic link!
It is the best explanation I've seen so far. It truly spoke to me, on a personal level, too. Thank you, Shine! :hi:

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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 05:21 PM
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8. Cool, me too. I'm on her mailing list and get it every month.
Great stuff. She lives right in my neck of the woods, too. :thumbsup:
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 04:51 PM
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5. Healing, hmmm?
I've just begun doing some important healing work, and there are definitely a few Virgoesque behavioral liabilities I'm trying to throw by the wayside. Hope this reflects their imminent demise in my life.
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sofedup Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 07:30 PM
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9. This eclipse is at 24 Virgo...
Edited on Mon Mar-13-06 07:46 PM by sofedup
...and it is Saros Series 8 North. From Bernadette Brady's "Predictive Astrology": "Inventiveness and flashes of genius are the hallmark of this Saros Series. The individual will have intuitive leaps, insights, good ideas, visions, or vivid dreams. This new-found inspiration will pull the person away from his or her social life or relationship, thereby causing strain in the private life. This is a time when the person needs to be free, if only for a few weeks."

My husband's Moon is 24 Virgo so it'll be interesting to see if anything similar to the description happens. In the last series of eclipses my Venus was hit exactly. I was hoping for money but I had an art idea instead.


Edited to add: Oh, never mind. I didn't really need to edit (hypervigilant Mercury in Virgo!).:-)
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:56 AM
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11. I found this interesting
In light of the full moon/eclipse and the link discussing implementing changes. This is the launch of their first day.

JOIN US !!!
Tuesday, March 14, 2006
11:00 AM
The First AME Zion Church
873 Bryden Rd. Columbus, OH

Over 100 pastors, priests, rabbis, cantors and actively committed lay leaders from Roman Catholicism, two traditions of Judaism, and more than fifteen Protestant denominations will gather to launch a new organization: We Believe.

Join us as we gather to pray and unveil our common purpose of serving God by committing to acting and speaking in public ways to support the most vulnerable and unrepresented in our times.

If you are a clergy person, bring your colleagues. If you are a lay person - come as a local leader - and bring your priest, pastor, deacon, elder, rabbi, cantor or imam. All public officials are also encouraged to attend.

http://webelieveohio.org/index.html
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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 10:39 AM
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12. I'm Virgo with a stellium in Virgo and I'm not feeling so well.
I started out for work this morning and turned back halfway. Right now I'm considering going to bed. What's wrong? I feel, I don't know, vaguely ill - too ill to go to work.
Here's my birth chart data:


Ascendant: 00Vir13'38"
Medium Coeli: 25Tau09'23"
Sun: 19Vir05'17"
Moon: 22Vir54'10"
Mercury: 28Vir42'37"R
Venus: 02Vir55'31"
Mars: 20Sco51'46"
Jupiter: 00Pis18'27"R
Saturn: 22Vir13'17"
Uranus: 08Can59'52"
Neptune: 16Lib03'40"
Pluto: 18Leo47'08"
North Node: 28Pis20'53"R
South Node: 28Vir20'53"R
Vertex: 22Cap03'05"R
Mean Lilith: 27Tau05'10"
True Lilith: 07Tau01'37"R
Chiron: 16Sag04'30"
Fortuna: 26Leo24'46"

The eclipse will hit my Sun, Moon, Saturn with conjuncts. I should probably stay in bed all day. LOL


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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 12:16 PM
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13. Feel better, Pink Tiger
I also feeling ill at ease in a confused, vague kind of way. My emotions feel like strings that have been twanged too roughly in too many directions for too long a time...

This too shall pass, I guess. Warm wishes. :hi:
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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 03:46 PM
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14. I'm OK.
I took the day off and have been sitting around doing nothing but watching old movies. Feel better already.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 04:01 PM
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15. Good for you
I'm almost afraid to ask this but how long will this emotional roller coaster last? What little I understand about them is that the effects can last weeks, or even months. :scared: Or is that just how long it will be before the outcome of what the eclipse initiates/ends is complete?
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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:48 PM
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17. The way I understand eclipses, they are similar to knights in a tarot
spread. In that they are a coming or going of a matter. Of course, the actual impact is dependent upon what part of the horoscope they appear. In my case, this one hit me in my first house, conjunct my natal moon, sun, saturn. Probably why I felt no vitality today, although I started out intending to go to work. But I drive an hour to get there and within 15 minutes I knew I had to turn around.

I spent the day doing Saturn things. Not surprising, huh?

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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 05:46 PM
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16. I also hope that you feel better, Pink.
:-)
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 01:15 AM
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18. I hope you feel better very soon, PinkTiger
:hug:

That's quite the stellium you have!
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sofedup Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:07 AM
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20. Hi PinkTiger
I hope you are feeling better. Since the eclipse appears to be 1/7 house event for you it would seem unlikely that its' occurrence and your illness are anything more than coincidence.

Since you've been living through the transit of Pluto squaring your Virgoan stellium for several years it does not seem a stretch that you may be feeling physically and emotionally depleted from this transit. The next planet Pluto will aspect is Mercury (which natally conjuncts your nodal axis)- Mercury is the ruler of your ascendant. A Pluto transit to the chart ruler could, among other things, signal changes to the native's physical body. It would not be over-concern to have any suspected health issues checked by a professional- or just to take better care of yourself. Keep in mind that if changes occur they could be for the better!

If you let me know the degrees of your house cusps I may have more info for you regarding your health.
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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 05:17 PM
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32. I can email my chart, if you like.
Edited on Fri Mar-17-06 05:21 PM by PinkTiger
Or, here's my stuff:

Ascendant: 00Vir13'38"
Medium Coeli: 25Tau09'23"
Sun: 19Vir05'17"
Moon: 22Vir54'10"
Mercury: 28Vir42'37"R
Venus: 02Vir55'31"
Mars: 20Sco51'46"
Jupiter: 00Pis18'27"R
Saturn: 22Vir13'17"
Uranus: 08Can59'52"
Neptune: 16Lib03'40"
Pluto: 18Leo47'08"
North Node: 28Pis20'53"R
South Node: 28Vir20'53"R
Vertex: 22Cap03'05"R
Mean Lilith: 27Tau05'10"
True Lilith: 07Tau01'37"R
Chiron: 16Sag04'30"
Fortuna: 26Leo24'46"

I was born during a solar eclipse, but the eclipse was not exact at the time of birth. My birthdate is 9/12/50; Leavenworth Kansas was the place.


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sofedup Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 09:45 AM
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44. no need to email the chart...
Edited on Sat Mar-18-06 09:48 AM by sofedup
...I'll just use the data you posted to create one. I thought we had the same birthday, two years apart, (we both have Suns at 19 Virgo) but my birthday is one day ahead of yours- so I am quite aware of how transits are affecting your Virgoan stellium. Later:)

Edited to add a missing word.
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sofedup Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:12 AM
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45. Here's a bit of info for you, PinkTiger
You were born on Saros Series 6 South. From Bernadette Brady's "Predictive Astrology": "This eclipse series is about being forceful and taking power. It has a manic flavour about it, with great force or strength manifesting in the relationship area. Individuals experiencing this Saros Series may experience sudden events, like falling in or out of love, or sudden sexual encounters. The individual may also exert a huge effort in some group activity." This is one of the less severe series. Does anything in the description sound familiar regarding your life?

I'm glad to hear you are feeling better. Health issues usually involve the 6/12 house axis and the ascendant. You are probably aware that the ruler of your 6th house, Uranus, has begun to transit in opposition to your Virgoan stellium. Eventually the ruler of your 6th will oppose the ruler of your 12th (Sun) and, even later, the ruler of your ascendant. This indicates a window of time where health concerns *could* be at the front of your mind.

On a different topic (if this isn't prying)- how did you experience the Pluto/Uranus conjunction that occurred so near your Sun the sixties? You would have been about 16 years old.


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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 04:51 PM
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46. This is how I spent it
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=216&topic_id=779&mesg_id=779

I wrote this about the experience.

16 was tough.

We never get over it, do we?
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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 05:34 PM
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47. You really took me back.
I had to open my horoscope and look at the transits back then and it brought back a gob of memories. Not just with Richard, the boy in question, but also with "jason" whose name was really Daniel.
I'm hoping that the opposition from uranus won't be as profound. Of course, being older will help.
Just in case, I plan to take some preventive measures about my health. Thanks for the heads up.
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yellowdawgdem Donating Member (972 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 05:04 PM
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21. the virgo stellium
seems quite impressive. I've got some similar planet/sign/degrees with you. North-south node, 28 deg vig-pisc, and mars at 18 scorp, so maybe you were born middle of september? I don't have all that much virgo except for sun-saturn 15 and 21 degrees. So I'm sure this is hitting you quite a bit harder. But I did want to report that I had a crown partially collapse the day before the eclipse, and have been deciding whether to go newer or older tech if it has to be replaced. I keep hoping it doesn't. I've noticed that with me, often I am sensitive to waxing aspects, and anything major happens the day b4 it is exact. I also completed a video on the day of the eclipse, and it had been a really virgo feeling with that, because of all the details that kept needing to be edited, and even when I turned it in, there were still many details I hadn't fixed. But it got to where I just had to let go of it, and let go of fixing all of the virgo details.
Anyway, keep us posted with any (details) ha ha.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 07:54 PM
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22. ME TOO!!!
virgo sun and pluto,venus,mercury conjunct in virgo and I HAD A HORRIBLE DAY yesterday.

yuck!!!

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yellowdawgdem Donating Member (972 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 05:30 PM
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27. lots of virgo
wow, all these people with lots of virgo! How long lasting is an eclipse, anyway. I bet that it's rather short, very intense, and then just passes out.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 07:59 PM
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24. whoa! you got Virgo karma!
what with your south node in virgo as well. that indicates that you are very comfortable with 'virgo energy' but to grow spiritually you should really focus on Pisces traits and concerns. that's how i learned to read the nodes anyway.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 02:24 AM
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19. Well, I have to post that the day and evening certainly felt...Virgo.
I was very efficient. And I did things primarily "for" others (it was my father's birthday and we had a party at my parents' house). There was a lot of cleaning. Tonight featured a small creative brainstorming session, though, with an emphasis on my future (I have Saturn in Virgo natally). THAT was interesting. I found out something bizarre about my (possible) future prospects. And my health continues to improve.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 07:56 PM
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23. Had a horrid day yesterday
and i wasn't alone. i have sun and a stellium of planets in virgo so it might have hit me extra hard but there are also a number of squares as well, including mars square uranus. i was extra careful while driving but *did* find my car towed when i left work yesterday. ugh.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:24 PM
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25. I was born on this eclipse, Saros 139, I am sooooo excited...
Edited on Wed Mar-15-06 10:29 PM by cassiepriam
This is "my" eclipse!

I was born on the same day as a total solar eclipse, and it was Saros 139 or 8N, the same one we have having this month.

This PNSE was positioned right in the middle of my Pisces stellium. Sun, Moon, Mercury, North node all in Pisces 6H. The eclipse was conjunct, actually right on top of my natal sun. The Vedics insist I should have died soon after birth, and in fact I almost did. But here I am, still alive and kicking!

Very karmic with the north node right in between my sun and the eclipse.

I am reading Brady's book as well as Lineman's book. And yes I love the summary of this eclipse. I received the eclipse cosmic dusting just as Brady says: the intuition, vivid dreams, inventiveness, good ideas, flashes of genius (OK maybe this last one is a stretch :)). All of it is so true for me. I am very pleased to come in on this eclipse, it was such a blessing.

The solar eclipse is March 29th. And that eclipse is going to fall almost on the tip of my Yod, (Jup in Aries). A yod is also called the finger of fate, a rare aspect indicating a special soul purpose. My life has shifted significantly in the last few years and especially in the last month or two. I am working on some special spiritual projects that have been very exciting. And some of you have noted that you find my posts helpful and illuminating. It is my solar eclipse working!

I have been floating on a bit of euphoria today (not usual for me at all), just realized that maybe it is the lunar eclipse kicking things off. And my psychic gifts are really hopping!

I apologize if "my eclipse" is causing problems for anyone else. I am in heaven! Saros 139 has only come back 2 other times in my life and both turned out to be major significant turning points for the good.

Oh btw a friend of mine will be going on an astronomy cruise in the Mediterranean and will actual see the Saros 139 eclipse. I am so excited and he will bring me a souvenir of some sort.
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sofedup Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:37 AM
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26. this is interesting, cassiepriam
I hope you will post after the 29th also. It sounds as if you are headed for another positive, pivotal time. If one is to be born on an eclipse this isn't a bad cycle at all.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 06:57 PM
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28. I will post if I am still on the planet :))
You never know what will happen with a SE! BTW I am so grateful to be born on Saros 139 after reading some of the other descriptions of Saros cycles. I am so blessed. If I had to have a heavy duty cosmic dusting this is the dust I want!

(And btw I still feel a bit euphoric and almost giddy. Very strange and unlike me, I am heavy furniture and serious most of the time. Maybe it is just my imagination at work.) But the SE is opp my n neptune, maybe I am going to float in a neptune pink cloud for awhile before Saros hits the bejabbers out of me. Like anesthetic before the surgery :0

This will be the third time Saros 139 has visited me. The day I was born, a month before I graduated from high school, and when I married.

Graduation from high school and entering college was the biggest transformation of my life. Many long hard years of school, many struggles and adversities, but in the end my education has defined me as a person.

My marriage was also very stressful in many ways, it catapulted me into an entirely new life. But in the end, has made me the wife and mother I am today and happy with all of it, and again defined me as a person.

Both events were profoundly transforming and at the core of my soul purpose, but first knocked the stuffing out of me.

So it is with mixed feelings, and cautious excitement I wait to see what Saros brings me this time! I most certainly am not going back to school, nor getting married again, so we shall see. I only hope that Saturn the Lord of Karma which is opposing Saros 139 will be kind to me. I have paid many dues in this life and it is time for him to go easy on me! My yod is the key and is trying to tell me something, we shall see.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 07:32 PM
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29. You mean there's no DU or Internet in the Life Between Lives??
I guess we have more important things to do "up" there. ;)
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:22 PM
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30. No DU? Yikes, I better stay on the planet until you can help Skinner
install a wireless network up there :)

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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:42 AM
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31. !
Edited on Fri Mar-17-06 01:44 AM by u4ic
And btw I still feel a bit euphoric

No wonder why I haven't felt like myself today!:rofl:

Thanks for sharing your story, cassiepriam. I'm glad that you were able to learn from your challenges and move forward...I've known so many who have been stuck in the past, and bitter.

I hope Saros 139 brings you many blessings! :-)

edit: I've never heard of this Saros business before! Is there a book you could recommend that deals with it more?

Now I'm going to have to go back in time and see what solar and lunar eclipses brought me!
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 06:08 PM
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34. Check out
Bernadette Brady's book "Predictive Astrology: The Eagle and the Lark". Great book, very interesting, some fascinating historical charts and a huge section on the Saros Series and how Eclipses can work with one's chart. I highly recommend it, but there may be another book out there that's better. Any other suggestions?
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 06:49 PM
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35. I am fascinated by prenatal eclipses, lunar and solar
Edited on Fri Mar-17-06 06:51 PM by cassiepriam
Unfortunately there is limited information on the PN eclipses. The books I have found:

Rose Lineman YOUR PRENATAL ECLIPSE
This book is a bit dated but a gem and I really like it.
Well written and feels accurate. But it is dated,
poor publishing, the tables and graphs practically unreadable. But should be a classic. Most comprehensive technically. Mostly about the solar eclipses.

Bernadette Brady PREDICTIVE ASTROLOGY
This is current and informative but only a portion of the book covers the PNEs. And there is a lack of continuity in the chapters and themes.

Spiller and McCoy SPIRITUAL ASTROLOGY
This of course is a classic best seller. Half the book devoted to PNEs. Not as much technical aspect info as Lineman's work. I know this is a classic and a must have book, but somehow it feels like it is missing something.

And the PN ephemeris data in general is sadly lacking anywhere. I have not found a source that gives you all the data you need, you have to go back and forth between tables and charts. To just get the basic PNE data I need to begin interpretation, I have to go to two books and the internet.

I would be interested if any one can suggest any other sources of information about the PNEs. And if any one is looking to write or do research this is a wide open topic. I am putting it on my list of books to write one day :)

If someone could write a clearly written PNE ephemeris that would be nice.



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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 08:10 PM
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37. Inspired by your Post
I just discovered that my birthday (20 March 1969 at 2:55 PM in Seattle) followed a Solar Eclipse at 27 Pisces on 18 March 1969. Interestingly, this 27 Pisces Solar Eclipse (that's where the Moon and Sun are at the same degree, right?) is Opposing my Natal Part of Fortune, semi-sextiling my N. Venus (26 Aries) and Trining my N. Neptune (28 Scorpio). Of course, with the dirth of info out there about this stuff, I have absolutely no idea what any of that means. :eyes:

The Lunar Eclipse of March 4 1969 (Tr. Sun 13 Pisces Opposing Tr. Moon at 13 Virgo) puts the Tr. Sun Conjunct my N. Mercury at 13 Pisces, Sextiles my MC (12 Taurus) and Squares N. Mars at 9 Sag. Again, no idea what it means, but, had it not been for your Post, I don't know that I would've satisfied my curiosity and taken a look.

Thanks!
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 10:09 PM
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38. 1969/03/18 04:54 S,A 129 7N
Yes SE occurs on a new moon, sun and moon conj. At least that is my understanding; I am weak on the astronomy end of things! And then a LE is Full moon, sun moon opp.

CCpup:I can give you a bit of info, sorry for any mistakes or typos, I am tired and my brain not working too well!

Note that your eclipse was a partial or annular one, which is a specific type of eclipse. I think that the type of eclipse is significant, but no one really knows (or seems to care except me!) My eclipse was a Total for example, and the vedics say it is better to have a partial one as it is a more gentle cosmic dusting. I got sand blasted, you got a sweet sprinkle:))

And your saros series began in the year 1103, and it was in Aries. This is also important, but once again no one else really cares except Rose Lineman and myself! (BTW Lineman is deceased and has passed on. So I cannot even talk to her on this earth plane at least).

To me, that date is the first time your saros eclipse energy manifested on earth. The birth of your eclipse energy, a part of your ancestral soul DNA! I find that so exciting and sentimental. I get goosebumps thinking about it. But no one really knows what that means, all we can do is guess. I get so frustrated with the limited knowledge of karmic astrology available at this time. I am blessed with vivid dreams and insights which give me answers, but it is slow going. I am meant to do so much painstaking work in this life. AGH. But that is another story.

Lineman is the only one I can find who talks about eclipse aspects but she doesn't talk about POF that I can see. My Pisces PNSE is opp my nPOF like yours, and I know what that means for me. It is critical that I balance out certain soul energies, gifts and karmic debts. That is one of the major reasons I am here, to balance extremely different and opposing energies (male and female, yin and yang, right and left brain. etc.) This balancing process is linked to my success in life, not necessarily materially but karmically, and the 12th house is involved, and with Pluto so you can imagine what I am up against.

So CCPUP, for you that means you wanted to work on some balancing in this life but the sign house and other aspects will tell you the specifics.

The Venus aspect indicates karmic ties between your partner or female relative or friend. Sextile indicates a spiritual opportunity though the house Venus occupies, and that you will have a warm friendly environment to do that. You have good material benefits possible with this aspect if you are not too self focused. Correct stewardship of your material goods is important in this life and is a part of your karmic goal.

Nep trine the PNE indicates that you may be on a higher level of the karmic wheel (good for you!) and that there will be an easy flow of spiritual energy between Neptune and the PNE which is Pisces. So you have double whammy of good water energy. It will be important for you to use that water energy to deal with your karmic afflictions. And you must work on the positive Pisces energy and leave the bad behind. Your chart is making a point of that.

The prenatal eclipse in Pisces also is telling you that you are on one of the higher levels of spiritual growth, perhaps you want to get off the karmic wheel in this life or the next. Your eclipse is telling you also that you need to get focused in this life and finish up what it is you are hoping to achieve. You are just about done. But you are going to have to be very careful not to fall back into the escape dramas such a drugs alcohol etc. and false gods. I don't know not what your North node is but that will shed light on things too. Of course this is all done best when looking at the chart as a whole.

You also have a great deal of sensual energy, procreative creative energies. Deep passions which you may keep hidden but will emerge when this eclipse comes back to visit you!

My feel of your PNSE set up is very nice, very positive water energy, the good parts of Pisces, the trines, sextiles. You have worked hard in some past lives and bring those gifts forward. A nice watery energy with some sensual sexual things going on but in a good happy productive way, maybe children, if that makes any sense. Sorry to get personal but that is what your chart is saying. I do not know if this fits for you or makes sense. Very nice energy going on in your PNSE.

If you are looking at PRE NATAL lunar eclipse you need to look at Oct 6 1968 13 Aries?
Of course that is a very different kind of energy but you are meant to balance that Aries with your Pisces.

As you can see there are many pieces to karmic astrology. The eclipses are just one small part but a fascinating one that no one knows much about.
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 10:35 PM
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39. Wow!
That Post was unbelievably generous! Thank you! For your info (and to satisfy your curiosity, I suppose), my Sun is at 00 Aries, my Moon is at 3 Taurus (with a Taurus MC), I have Leo Rising, my North Node is also 00 Aries Conjunct my Sun and my Libra South Node is conjunct my Jupiter (1 Libra) and Uranus (2 Libra). My Sun also sits in the 8th House, so the Jupiter and Uranus (as well as Pluto at 23 Virgo) rest in the 2nd House. The Eclipse of the 29th this month will be hitting in my 8th.

I, too, have a growing interest in prenatal Eclipses and am quickly finding myself frustrated with the lack of cohesive information. Maybe YOU could write a book! :evilgrin:

Funny how the Solar Eclipse of 18 March '69 is conjunct my Mercury and I've just, in the last two years, discovered myself as a surprisingly talented playwright/screenwriter. Balance that with the actor and producer in me (Sun on the Aries Point) and I suspect I could build an interesting career at some point! :eyes:

Thank you again for that wonderful Post. It was unexpectedly generous of you.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 11:03 PM
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40. You have come full circle,
Thanks for the other info. BTW are you exactly sure about your time and date of birth? I am just curious.

While it is not a good idea to interpret part of the natal chart in isolation, it does look like you are completing a cycle in this life. It is possible that you may come back again, but it will be in a very different way.

You have jup, uranus, and Pluto in the 2nd? This is the karmic gift house, means you brought back a really nice karmic piggy bank!
With the jup and Uranus in 2nd you are bringing back karmic gifts from past lives. Jup is karmically very good in the 2nd. You have a very good ability to visualize and manifest in a very creative way. Uranus brings creativity and a good sense of energy vibrations when in the 2nd. And yes with the merc involvement, writing, creating etc makes perfect sense. Pluto in the second means a very good understanding of life.

And since you have all this talent you are the one to write the definitive eclipse book :))
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 06:31 AM
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43. PS
There is a very sensual creative energy to your chart.
I bet you are not writing stories about chess or ping pong :)
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:36 AM
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41. Welcome to DU, ccpup
and to our group! :toast:
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 07:10 PM
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36. PS Saros
I know that the Saros cycle info is important but not many others do. Maybe I am wrong. I can find only two authors who even mention Saros cycles. I listed the citations in my last post.

I know in my soul that being born just after a solar eclipse means something, I just have had a heck of time finding out what! But I am like a dog with a bone when I am intrigued, digging and seeing what I can find.

I think that someday eclipse information will be a standard part of astrology training. I keep getting glimpses of what astrology training will be like in the future and it is so exciting. It will be very legitimate and mainstream, offered in universities with various types of specializations much like medical schools are today.

But I digress, sorry, my head works in such a funny way most times. Also make sure you are looking at the last eclipse that occurred before your birth. It is the PreNatal Eclipses that are important. I am also wondering if all the eclipses occurring during gestation may dust the fetus but only Judy Hall has raised that question. However Dr Newton's work suggests that the soul enters the fetus later in the pregnancy so then I wonder about the early eclipses having any effect at all. Unless it impacts the the body as well as the soul. No one else seems to wonder about this, but I do.
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 06:03 PM
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33. The Lunar Eclipse
conjuncted my N. Pluto in my 2nd House, so I'll look forward to see how that manifests. The upcoming Solar Eclipse won't be touching any of my planets, but will be happening in my 8th House opposite my 2nd and will be opposing a very good friend's Natal Sun in his 2nd. Hmmmmm ... we'll have to see how it all plays out, I guess.
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:43 AM
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42. The upcoming solar eclipse
will be conjunct my anti-Vertex in the 12th, and square my moon in the 9th.

I've been looking at the Vertex a bit more lately, and am finding it quite fascinating, though it's not as reliable as a regular natal planet being hit.
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