An Astrological Political Pop-Quiz

[Ricochet21]

Most political figures have one thing in common astrologically. This is not a scientific poll, but is one that I have found to be quite true. See if you can guess which sign or planetary influence is usually really strong in charts of those political figures who seem to be very "effective." Effective means they get things done, whether you care for their results or not. Pick one, later on, I will publish what I have found. It's one of the ten.

[Howler]

1. I'll bet its a strong placement or aspect to

Saturn.

[Ricochet21]

7. I'm not giving the "answer" yet

But big aspects to Saturn is a very good answer. Clearly, the most common aspect I've seen in "successful" people is Saturn square to the Sun. It's NOT what the old books say. I think the personality (Sun) is so frustrated by Saturn that it just has to do the work to overcome it. Thusly, they succeed thru pure effort. :hi:

[Howler]

12. Well, being a Leo..........

If i'm not mistaken wasn't Napoleon Bonaparte,Saddam Hussein ,Hitler all Leos? :(

[Ricochet21]

15. Howl

Napoleo Leo
Hussein and Hitler Tauruses

[Howler]

16. SWEET!

I was getting an inferiority complex thinking that alot of infamous leaders were Leo! Thanks Rick. snort!

Though my Grandmother and Mom were both Taurus. One was born on may 7th the other on May 8th.LOL! I have PLENTY of experience dodging hooves and Horns.

[Howler]

17. OOPS!!!!!!

Here are a few other leos.

Benito Mussolini
Fascist Italian dictator

Fidel Castro
Cuban leader and Communism supporter

Herbert Hoover
1874-1964, a US president

Hmmmmmmmmmmm I was born on the 4th of August same day as Obama and we were both born off of the Continent.
Just sayin.:shrug:

[Myrina]

25. ... don't forget Bill Clinton ...

Big Dawg is a Leo too.

[Howler]

27. Ah Yes. LOL!

As Maddow put it 'The best republican president we ever had"

[Myrina]

46. ... you were looking for 'infamous' LOL !

:hi:

[Howler]

48. HAHAHAHAHAHNAHAHAHA!!!!!

Ding! Ding1 Ding! And we have a winner.
You made me laugh Myrina. Thank you!.:toast:

[Habibi]

2. I threw a dart

and picked Aries. 'Cause of the leadership aspect. Although I think Mars is true, too.

[Kind of Blue]

3. That's what I was thinking but chose Mars

instead of Aries.

[Sanity Claws]

4. Leos have charm and nice hair. Perfect combo for a politican!

Aries may be leaders but they can be too abrasive and headstrong to be successful politicians.

[Ricochet21]

10. You are sometimes right

depends on the whole chart.

Abrasive: Michele Bachmann, yes
Abrasive: Al Gore no
Abrasive: Nancy Pelosi no

interesting :hi:

[rosesaylavee]

5. I chose Capricorn

not only because we are awesome :P but because of the Capricorn's stubborness and relentless march toward the goal.

And we are kinda cute too.

[Ricochet21]

8. A very good answer

Capricorns are known for being very successful at whatever they do.

[JanusAscending]

21. I'm the other one!

We Cappies like to see things through to the finish!!!

[rosesaylavee]

23. 2 Cappies from the same day no less.

We are t'awesome.

[SheilaT]

6. I'm thinking for planet it would be

Mars, and for sign it would be Leo.

[Ricochet21]

9. The idea is to pick one.

Hard, isn't it?

[SheilaT]

13. I know.

So since I can only have one I'll pick Mars.

[glinda]

11. Mars and war

[Ricochet21]

14. Mars is really doing well!

Funny little Martians does kind of make sense with this gov't

[Ricochet21]

18. WE'LL GIVE THIS THING ONE MORE DAY

And give you a chance to pitch in. :hi:

[kimmerspixelated]

19. I chose Uranus.

It tickled my sense of humor. I know you are trying to be serious, but I kept thinking about all the buttholes in politics.. HAHAHAHA! SO excuse me... I had to have my little joke. Maybe I should straighten up and choose again.:silly:

[Ricochet21]

20. Uranus is a better choice than you might think

Uranians are very stubborn and extremely idealistic :silly:

[southerncrone]

22. I think Mars in Leo (lots of fire)

denotes assertiveness, force, & power in a leadership role. Qualities needed to "get things done".

I chose Mars because a well-placed Mars will always indicate some type of action, aspects & placement define what KIND of action.

[Ricochet21]

24. AND THE SURVEY SAYS...

Taurus

Surprised? So was I. After looking at lots and lot and lots of political figures, that is clearly the energy. Why?
Because they have the patience, guts, persistence and plain old stubbornness to put up with all the crap. You wouldn't believe how
much Taurus is in Arian Nancy Pelosi's chart, Lon, er, Dick Cheney's, yuck, Mitch McConnell's, etc.

I know as a Sun sign, you would never guess Taurus, but as a background energy in the chart, it is clear that this sign is a must.
Yes it can lead to awful leaders like Hussein, Hitler, Khomeni, Tito, Lenin, Marx... but it can do it right too as in the case of Pelosi. Sheer determination, unyielding, never giving in.

The problem with Mars is, yes they are great on the battlefield but are the WORST when it comes to compromise! That should have given it away. So much of "governing" is compromise. Taurus always always always make sure that whatever deal they are making, they're getting something significant back in terms of VALUE OR MONEY. Count on it.

Next you voted heavily on Saturn, a very wise choice b/c Saturn is THE planet that is significant in most successful people's charts.

Amusingly enough, the other sign that got 0 votes was Sagittarius. It probably would have finished SECOND just behind Taurus. We all think of Sag as playful,etc. But, like them or not, there is a very idealistic side to them such as Winston Churchill, Strom Thurman, Bernanske, Tip O'Neill, (plus they can be big BSers, and that's surely needed in politics!) and boy, can they fight, with a smile on their face. Mainly it's because they are inspirational and persuasive.

It was fun to do this little exercise. It by no means is scientific, but just what I have noticed consistently. I like to share these kind of thoughts b/c we learn and it gets our mind off of all these heavy planets we are enduring at the moment. Thanks for chipping in! :hi:

[BlueIris]

26. Okay, my first reaction to this was "WHAT?!"

But then I thought back to everything I know about my Taurus brethren. :evilgrin:

[Kind of Blue]

29. Yeah, We Taureans ROCK!

:headbang:

[Howler]

30. Me Too! LOL!

Man! some of the battles between myself and Grandma and Mom were epic. snort!

However the battles between my Mom and Grandma were Nuclear!!!!!

[Kind of Blue]

32. Ha! You should see 2 Taureans go at it

as it would happen in my family - truly ugly and wretched :(

[Howler]

37. Thats what i'm talking about Kind Of Blue.

My grandmother was born on the 8th of may while my mother,her daughter,was born on the 7th of may. Nuclear was the apt description of their disagreements. LOL! I'm telling ya I got very adept very fast at dealing with hooves and horns.Not kidding.
I'm a Leo btw snort . Yep. growing up was interesting at our house.

[Kind of Blue]

38. Gotcha!

I'm sorry to have missed those dates! :blush: I know exactly what you mean. My father, brother and I are Taureans. Any two of us getting into it was fierce and we've had to learn how to argue with each other. hooves and horns :rofl: that's exactly what it felt like.

[Howler]

39. woW! a threefer. LOL!

I can imagine.
As a leo I had to mind my tail and paws cause they could really get stampeded on.

[Howler]

28. WOW!!!!!

Thanks Rick that was fun and informative. ;)

[Ricochet21]

34. Thanks Howl

I'll do some more when I think of one.

[Howler]

40. Very Cool Rick.

Looking forward to it.:bounce:

[Howler]

41. Rick, I gotta a question.

Why do family's birthdays seem to be clustered onto one side of the calender?
For instance All the birth dates in my family start 2 in may ,1 in July,1 in August and 3 in september.all on one side of the calender in five months with clusters of birtdates in two of those months.

It also looks to be repeating in my brothers family My nieces birthdate are in April Aries and Taurus May born a year apart.


Then you look at Kinda of Blue and they have 3 bulls in their house.
Is this common?

[Ricochet21]

42. As far as I've seen

it's common to have THEMES. Like birthdays are simply because during child's birth, the Sun is at a particular degree of the zodiac which acts as a trigger to pts in the charts of the Mother, Father, kids, etc.

It is far more common to have for example: Pisces, Cancer, Leo and Aquarian themes.
Mom might have Aquarian Sun with Pisces rising
Dad might have Cancer Sun with Moon (Cancer) in Leo
child 1 might have Sun in Leo with Moon next to Uranus (Aquarian influence)

etc

It takes the whole chart to discern which main energies are present. Almost all families have similar energies but this has nothing to do with Sun signs. :hi:

[Howler]

45. Very Interesting.........Thank you!!!!!

Now thats giving me food for thought about karma,past lives, etc.
Thanks Rick. :)

[Kind of Blue]

31. Absolutely wonderful way to look at a sign.

Nice to know this about Pelosi and I guess I have to accept in the "others" as well - YUCK!

Thanks for the suspense!

[Ricochet21]

33. I know

it doesn't mean we like or dislike them, it just goes to show that when they get on to something, they just don't back away until it is concluded! I'm tired just thinking about it! :hi:

[Kind of Blue]

36. It seems we tire ourselves out, as well!

:hi: Just gave 2weeks notice on one of my contract work. Sheesh, I should have let it go a very long time ago - but I hate to quit at anything. Tenacity and loyalty are great traits but damn, they sure can blind one from seeing the forest for the trees.

It was after some things you said during my reading with you, especially about work, that I could feel the pressure building to release it and I fought it back hard. The value in money (that I love) started to wane in comparison to priceless time. My boss said I'm welcomed back whenever. I wonder if she has Taurus as background, she surely didn't want to let go :D

[Ricochet21]

43. We all have to fight our own nature and our own myths

The Taurus myth is that if you keep on keepin on and keep on pushing, it'll all work out. NOT

Also, don't always confuse dedication, tenacity, and loyalty with fear of change.

All the signs work this way. That's what the book is about that we're working on. :hi:

[Kind of Blue]

50. I'm so looking forward to your book, Rick.

You have a way of cutting through bullcrap in just 3 sentences! Yes, the heart of it was fear of change and forgetting to trust in the inner voice that moves me forward. Thank you :loveya:

[Ricochet21]

51. Thank you KOB

we're into it an working as hard as we can, one phrase at a time. It's all "written" but the editing takes forever, probably 6 more mos. :hi:

[Habibi]

47. Veddy intaressstink

I like this, Rick; it's good astrology edumacation. If you feel like doing it again, I'd be thankful.

[Ricochet21]

49. Good

maybe we'll ask next time who makes the best prostitutes? Eh? Joking

I KNOW that answer immediately, but I'd get in SO MUCH trouble! :hi:

[Howler]

52. Ah come on Rick..

inquiring minds want to know. LOL!
Is it Leos because they are good actresses?
Is it Capricorns because they are good at business?
Is it Taurus because if they are talented at politics its basically the same thing.
Is it Gemini because they have many personalities.
Is it Virgo because they can charge more?
Is it Sagittarius because they are so playful.
Is it Aries because they like control (dominatrix)
Is it Pisces because they are the most attractive? (In my opinion)
Is it Aquarius because they are open minded and out going.
Is it Cancer because they like to snuggle?
Is it scorpio? because well you know.
Is it Libras because they can negotiate?

There Rick I took all the heat.
PLEASE Don't shoot me when you see the whites of me eyes!!!!
I just want to know!!!! i'm curious.LOL!!!!

[Ricochet21]

53. My God howler

You DO want to know, don't you? Just what kind of mind do you have?

If I said any one of the 12, I'd get shot.

Clue: It is one of the 12 (I think)

Maybe YOU should do a poll? :bounce:

[Howler]

59. HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

Look Rick, You started it by posing a very provocative question.
I have a VERY inquisitive mind. LOL!
No one is gonna shoot you man.
I'll even bet that there are other folks here that are just as curious.

I had to be right at least once out of the 12.:rofl:

I would post a poll if I knew how. I'm sever ly technically challenged.

ahhhh come on Rick. Its gotta be Leo HHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL.

You Know You could PM me the answer. :) i'll post it.

[I Have A Dream]

54. Narrowing down...

Don't know, but I'd guess that it would be one of the following:

Sag
Leo
Libra
Taurus

[Ricochet21]

55. Very, very intriguing guesses! n/t

[I Have A Dream]

56. I changed it.

:)

[Howler]

60. I agree I Have A Dream.

i'm betting Leo or Taurus.

[I Have A Dream]

35. This is the first time that I looked at this.

I knew the answer, but only because you mentioned it in class.

However, I get credit for remembering! :)

[Ricochet21]

44. 1 pt

[Ricochet21]

57. So I see, Taurus got a vote!

Wonder how that happened?

[I Have A Dream]

58. That was me. nt

[Howler]

61. Yeah but was that for the first poll.....

Or the second? LOL!

[Ricochet21]

62. There is no second poll

unless Howler starts one and gives us THE answer. I don't have THE answer either. :hi:

[Howler]

64. I don't believe You. HAHAHAHA!!!!!

I affectionately "Joe Wilson you". LOL!!!

I DON:T KNOW!!!!!! I wanted to know!
I do know that I don't know how to start a poll though.
That is simply out of the question.:headbang:

[Ricochet21]

65. Click on the poll thingie

It's entirely within the realm of possibility here.... :hi:

[Howler]

67. OOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH Rick......

You just don't understand.
Ask Mystical Chick. It took me 3 or 4 days trying to figure out pay pal for me to even be able to schedule a reading.

I really REALLY am technically challenged. :freak: :cry: :shrug:

[I Have A Dream]

69. You just start a new thread as you normally would, and then you...

click on 'Click here to post a poll'.

It then opens up 10 fields that you can put the choices in.

Give it a try. You don't have to actually post it if you don't want to when you're just trying it out. I'll help you if you get stuck; just let me know.

:)

[Howler]

74. Thanks I Have A Dream. :)

But even if I figured out how to post the confounded poll I don't know the answer. LOL!

[I Have A Dream]

63. It was in reference to his initial question. Not about the prostitute question.

:D

I chose it when I said that I remembered it from class in an earlier post.

[Ricochet21]

66. I guessed that.

lol

this thing is crazy

[Ricochet21]

68. YOU CAN STOP VOTING NOW

[Howler]

70. Oh No!!!!

The flood gates are open NOW!!!!!! LOL!

And Yet.....Still no votes for Sagittarius.

[Howler]

71. You know what else is missing?

Which is kinda strange.
No votes for Jupiter.
Isn't Jupiter a pretty Auspicious planet?

[Ricochet21]

72. As I said

Jupiter influence or Sag energy is probably second right behind Taurus!
Also, remember, Jup/Sag is the "salesman" of the zodiac, congress is the place you have to "sell"
so, it should have gotten many votes

what confused some ppl I think was I asked for INFLUENCES IN ONE'S chart, that's NOT the same as your Sun Sign.
People have to get used to start thinking in that manner. That's why Sun sign astrology is only accurate so far which is why we don't hear much from Stella on these subject b/c she doesn't care to discriminate to much via sun sign

[Howler]

73. Very Cool. n/t

n/t