What do you think of David Wilcock?

[Sanity Claws]

I'm not sure what to make of David Wilcock. I just searched Youtube for him and see that he claimed to have channeled Ra. Frankly that lowers my estimation of him.

If you like him, please let me know why. Also, if you disregard what he says, also let me know why.

[MorningGlow]

1. I didn't like him at first

But now, after watching some of his seminars on YouTube, I do. I like his energy and what he has to say.

I didn't hear the stuff about Ra--did he say he did? I only ask because he's said that there's been a lot of misinformation put out about him by other people.

[Sanity Claws]

2. I'll share the link

The YouTube blurb says it's Wilcock and it sounds like him. It's up about a year and one-half; he would have had it taken it down if it were misattributed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6ggAPY5LpE

[MorningGlow]

19. That's interesting, SC

I hadn't heard this before.

May I ask why you say it lowers your opinion of him? Is it because it should be impossible to channel the entity Ra? I did a little googling, and in an interview online (http://www.projectcamelot.net/david_wilcock_interview_transcript_1.html) he calls it a "source": "As I went on and got more involved with my source, I realized that I was in contact with this same source RA." So I took it to mean that he wasn't necessarily in communication with "the" Ra as we know him/it, but a source entity who can be referred to as Ra--or just about any name anyone would care to pin on him/it.

But that's just my own guess. I'm very interested in your opinion of him and how this channeling has affected your opinion, SC. :hi:

[Sanity Claws]

37. I thought the channeling was hokum

Just a gut reaction.
Some channeling is not hokum but this just struck me as phony.
I also think he has a mighty ego. I didn't catch it until I listened to him in a discussion with two others at the Camelot Project.

[Why Syzygy]

22. IIRC

David has claimed to be Ra reincarnate.

[Proud_Lefty]

3. I'm completely torn about Wilcox

His words resonates with me and gives me hope for an exciting tomorrow. He has incredible things to share. I love listening to his presentations.

Last year, I went to a spiritual conference where he was one of the keynote speakers. You can buy tickets to his and other speakers' individual lectures beforehand for a slightly cheaper price than you'd pay at the door. I decided not to purchase tickets for his lecture because the people I went with that time might find David a little too intense. We did, however, hear him speak on a 2012 panel that day. At this panel, he was talking about how those people who didn't buy his tickets were probably going to miss out, making it sound like those that weren't smart enough were totally missing out on the best. The tone was very arrogant and I was taken aback by it. A few weeks later, I was reading an article on his website and he was talking about an incident that happened at this panel. His version of it was quite different than what I saw and heard. He said that when he told the audience that they might completely miss out, there was an incredible reaction by the audience with moans of disappointment. This wasn't what happened at all and it made me stop and question all his perceptions of things.

I've listened to him many times since. A few times, he goes completely off the subject bragging about his superiority and I always click that off. Most the time, though, he does have what seems to be some wonderful insights that makes sense. But, as stated above, I have become very leery, but I still listen just in case there's something valid there.

[Why Syzygy]

4. What I appreciate about David

is his degree in psychology and his openness to unusual science and physics. Richard Hoagland has voiced on C2C that he believes David is a victim of disinformation from some of his sources. I certainly think he is misguided about Obama. His series on the 'God Complex' is excellent, and strong in psychological perspective. I do not trust any 'psychics' to have 100% accuracy.

[rosesaylavee]

5. I take him and others who profess to tell

the future for large numbers of us in large sweeps of certainty with a huge grain of salt. Free will doesn't work that way... or I don't think it does. And maybe I am all wrong about this too. :P Thought it interesting that he and Matthew were on either side of the fence from each other in regard to the Norway spiral lights. I don't mind reading what they have to say - in fact read most of their postings with high level of interest but am yet to be convinced. Though I did find the Seth material to be very helpful when I was much younger but haven't found anything since that has made half as much sense. PC was a very interesting group and I do regret what happened here regarding their postings as I enjoyed reading what they had to say.

[Why Syzygy]

6. A word about PC.

I know who PC is in RL. Someone will step up and say, "PC is a group". We know from LaurenG's parting post that originally the group consisted of herself and one other person. This other person is a former member of ASAH. When Lauren left the "PC group", one person remained. She may have recruited someone else to make it a "group" again. But it remains that "PC" is primarily this former ASAH member.

When she posted here as herself she had some wise things to contribute. I counted her a friend. We exchanged PMs. But when she came back under the PC ruse, I felt her energy had changed. I have no idea why she decided to go undercover instead of resume her former, sweet identity. My feelings were confirmed by information I received confidentially from multiple sources.

I know there are many here who still miss her. I just think it only fair that you have more of the story. Maybe you can understand a little better knowing that "PC" was not a stranger to this group, and her parting actions were at least partially based on the fact that more than one ASAH member knows who she is.

[Sanity Claws]

7. Did you mean to post this in a different thread?

I don't understand the connection between PC and David Wilcock.
I wish PC, LaurenG, and whoever else was involved in Psychic Consortium all the best.

[Why Syzygy]

9. No.

I was responding to the content of rosesaylavee's post.

[Kind of Blue]

8. What you said about Seth, IMO, is too true.

The rest, so far just very interesting reading.

[northernlights]

12. you bully you

:shrug:

:rofl:

[rosesaylavee]

13. I know...

thanks for the laugh. :)

[get the red out]

10. Pieces of truth come from everywhere

I listen to a lot of people, since I am into paranormal/UFO/alternative spirituality type podcasts and I believe that pieces of the truth come from all different directions. I doubt ANYONE has the full picture of reality and certainly not a complete picture of the future, BUT I think a LOT of these folks, David Wilcock included, do ferret out some very good information that rings true with me. I guess I'm a skeptical believer, LOL! Or at least a picky consumer, I don't by much as a complete set, but piece at a time.

I didn't pay much attention to David Wilcock at first because he had said something that didn't sit well with my reality meter on C2C at one point, I can't recall what that is now. But recently a lot of his information is intriguing to me and rings of something, I don't know if truth is the correct word, but it rings of being on a path closer to what may be happening than a lot of other stuff out there right now. I listen to things like this totally by gut instinct, so can't often explain how I come up with what I think.

One thing I have often wondered about channeling is does the person doing the channeling always comprehend fully the identity of the consciousness being channeled? Or does the consciousness ever give the channeler a name, or recognizable personality, that would be most acceptable to them in order to minimize any fear or uncertainty?

[southerncrone]

15. I feel the same way about bits & pieces of the truth, GTRO.

I tend to "absorb" as much info from as many sources as possible. Then I "synthesis" this info against the total collection of info & through my own "gut feeling filter".

I think that religions in general, each have a portion of the truth correct. That's why I don't like the division caused by religion, since I believe all religions possess a fraction of the Real Truth. For one religion to attack another, I find disgusting. It's like your Big Toe attacking your Liver because it isn't "just like" the toe. Thankfully our body parts are wiser than the whole most of the time! The Toe knows the Liver's truth is just as important & valid as the Toe's truth.

Hope y'all could follow this analogy & it doesn't just sound like I'm rambling. (I am exhausted, so this may not make much sense. LOL) :crazy:

[get the red out]

20. I absolutely understand what you are saying!

When spiritual paths get the big egos, trouble starts. It's all like a jigsaw puzzle.

[Why Syzygy]

11. kick

So rosesaylavee can address the real issue instead of following me to other threads to harass me.

[JanusAscending]

16. I regret having to say this......

but you are giving off very bad vibes here. I don't have a "nickel in this quarter", but I've felt this from you once before around the time that PC left. Can you explain why you are feeling harassed? I just don't get this at all....especially here on ASAH. I've come to expect more in the way of respect for others beliefs from the group, and you seem to have a "bee in your bonnet"?? It makes me feel very sad inside and for the group as a whole.:shrug: Is there anything I can do to understand better, and perhaps help? I'd hate to see this group get as bad as it is in GD and elseware.

[Why Syzygy]

17. It involves someone who betrays me, given a chance.

The exposure has been resolved now. There is no forgiveness for traitors, and that is troubling. But when someone consistently takes the low road, avoidance is the only option.

I've been upset and am transparent. What you see is what you get. I never got the hang of phony.

I should settle down soon. However, in this current mood, I don't expect anyone here to "understand".

[OneGrassRoot]

18. So, when you are in this mood...

do you recommend we simply ignore it and not even try to understand, assuming it will pass in due time?

That's not sarcasm, I'm sincere.

Janus said what I feel much more eloquently than I could have. Most of us here don't understand what is going on at all -- this history of which you speak periodically that obviously still upsets you deeply -- so this "vibe" is very, very disturbing.

We expect a combative atmosphere in GD and GDP, not here, so it's very disconcerting.

If we can do something to help, please let us know; if you feel it's best we allow this mood to pass as much as possible when it arises and essentially ignore it, let us know that as well, please.

:hug:

[Why Syzygy]

21. OGR

You are such a dear, sweet friend. I have been mostly avoiding ASAH for weeks due to this mood building. Maybe that's the best choice.

Clearly, this betrayal theme is something karmic with me. I started journal-ing about it last night. It can't be comfortable for those around me, and it hurts me deeply. I just have to do whatever work is required to settle it. This would be a great time to have a therapist. But I do not.

If there's anything that can be understood, maybe it is that we all have our karmic wounds, and don't always know what to do with or about them.

This may sound combative, but ASAH is probably not the best place to work this out. I won't be the first to abandon the group because our deep pain is not acceptable here.

[northernlights]

23. in my experience, openly acknowledged and honest pain is accepted here

what is not accepted is projecting one's own pain onto others by lashing out either passive-aggressively or aggressive-aggressively. And that is what I have felt you doing for a long, long time WS. Since even before the PC eruption. And I think it has to do with more than your issues around PC, since I have felt it in response to many of my threads that had nothing to do with PC whatsoever. As far as PC goes, PC is gone. You won your war. What does it matter to you that some people occasionally make reference to missing PC. By attacking anybody who makes reference to PC, and re-iterating over and over your secret knowedge about PC, you keep PC here and you keep that war going. Why?

[Name removed]

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[northernlights]

36. I have absolutely no idea what you are rambling about

I haven't seen your honest statement of pain on this forum before now, so maybe I've missed it. I have seen the sniping and aggression, and suspect I am not alone. Rosaylavee was not bullying you, MG was not attacking you, IHAD's statement was in no way snotty, nor was she seeking drama... and so on. The appearance to me, as a bystander, is one of classic projection.

I have no idea what you mean by my supposedly being "one of the many unfaithful of the world." I'm not asking you to try to exlain it, either. It jus strikes me as nonsensical drama-seeking, or maybe you've remembered your announcement some months back that you'd decided to become a Christian.

I'm not sure what disagreements you are talking about us having on the big board. As far as I recall, we are quite in agreement about the economy and on Gd. And I am being honest with you.

As far as the "kicks in the stomach" you say you see me getting, well I'm not sure what you are referring to. I've been a prime target of thieves for about 10 years now, and so like most everybody else am financially in a bind. And am exhausted from 18 hour days of trying to get through it.

I'm not getting any personal "kicks in the stomach." I get along with my coworkers and my boss. I get along with my fellow students and professors.

I do notice that you have carefully ignored my question to you about why you feel the need, any time someone mentions that they miss PC, to bring out the sturm und drang. You wanted PC to leave, and PC is gone.

You say you are always honest. My new question to you is are you being honest with yourself?

[Why Syzygy]

44. Dear, NL

It seems that it is your perception that has gone askew. I have no idea why or when you became hostile to me.

I haven't seen your honest statement of pain on this forum before now, so maybe I've missed it. I have seen the sniping and aggression, and suspect I am not alone. Rosaylavee was not bullying you, MG was not attacking you, IHAD's statement was in no way snotty, nor was she seeking drama... and so on. The appearance to me, as a bystander, is one of classic projection.

You've missed some. But most importantly, I am not answerable to you or anyone else for my dealings with others. You ARE a bystander and are free to make any judgments you deem appropriate. All I can do is say, thanks for your perceptions. I find they do not apply.

I have no idea what you mean by my supposedly being "one of the many unfaithful of the world." I'm not asking you to try to exlain it, either. It jus strikes me as nonsensical drama-seeking, or maybe you've remembered your announcement some months back that you'd decided to become a Christian.

"one of the many unfaithful" ... One who pretends to be a friend but stabs you in the back. Unfaithful in friendship. A betrayer. Unfaithful to those who have been kind to you.

It was a year ago I decided to try Christianity again. It didn't suit me. Not that I have any idea what that has to do with your present concerns.

I'm Leo. Drama is a given. :shrug: Do you have issues with other ASAH members who play drama in here; or just me?

I'm not sure what disagreements you are talking about us having on the big board. As far as I recall, we are quite in agreement about the economy and on Gd. And I am being honest with you.

We disagreed about the vaccine.

As far as the "kicks in the stomach" you say you see me getting, well I'm not sure what you are referring to. I've been a prime target of thieves for about 10 years now, and so like most everybody else am financially in a bind. And am exhausted from 18 hour days of trying to get through it.

I'm not getting any personal "kicks in the stomach." I get along with my coworkers and my boss. I get along with my fellow students and professors.

Maybe not "kicks"; but rather "sucker punches", as you wrote in your last PM to me and seem to mention frequently here. All the 'bad luck' that follows you around. All your tough breaks, etc. If you treat people in RL with the same type of betrayal with which you are now treating me, I have no doubt that some bad juju sticks to you. And, btw, you didn't ask but here's a tip. The more you retell those old stories, the more powerful they are. The most powerful thing I ever did some 12 year ago was quit telling my old pain stories. I doubt you are so inclined.

When you are not flying high you are telling the latest "sucker punch" story. But I already told you that. Privately. Which you rejected with hostility.

I do notice that you have carefully ignored my question to you about why you feel the need, any time someone mentions that they miss PC, to bring out the sturm und drang. You wanted PC to leave, and PC is gone.

This is patently false. I dare you to produce one post where I have mentioned PC since she left. Others have. I have not made one statement or illusion to her. If you can find something, let me know and I'll admit my error. So, why would you make up something like that?

You say you are always honest. My new question to you is are you being honest with yourself?

As the title of my prior post reports, 'We do the best we can'. Honesty is one of my top rated ethics. However, there are times I am honest with myself but do not share that with others. That's my prerogative. And again, I do not answer to you. Especially not now.

[MorningGlow]

24. WS, you are welcome to work it out here as much as possible

Perhaps when your mood subsides and you have an opportunity to examine it with the proper perspective (instead of being in the throes of it)? You know we all want to help one another out as much as we are able. Of course, this wouldn't take the place of a therapist working with you--is there any way you can get in touch with one at all?

Sending you light in the meantime. :hug:

[Why Syzygy]

31. MG ..

I do not deserve you as a friend. I have an idea on how I might be able to get to a therapist after the first of the year. Meanwhile, some tools are showing up that will help. Just getting it out there and realizing how deeply karmic this is has been a tremendous help. Sometimes it is so very hard for me to accept love. Thank you for persisting. It takes a brave soul to do that.

[MorningGlow]

35. ...

:hug:

[OneGrassRoot]

25. Thank you for responding....

:hug:

We sure do all have our wounds and often don't know what to do with them. One of my recurring weaknesses raised itself in reading your posts these last couple of days: I get very, very frustrated when someone I care about is in pain and I can't do anything to help, or they won't give me or someone else a chance to help. And my frustration can develop a hard edge to it.

In talking to my suicidal mom just a few minutes ago, I've accepted that sometimes no one else can help ease the suffering or banish inner demons of another.

I respect it if you need the space to do that. I just wanted you to know that we see and hear you...you're not invisible, nor is your pain...and was trying to ask how best to deal with it for all concerned.

More hugs sent your way....:hug:

[Why Syzygy]

32. "won't give somone else a chance to help" ..

I see this in others at times. They can't see the care I have for them. It doesn't frustrate me. It is just something I've learned to observe. Now I see it in myself too.

I'm sorry your mom is going through that. Would she be willing to try higher end dosages of niacin? It hasn't brought me up to a 'normal' level, but it has helped bring me out of the extreme level.

Thank you, OGR. You are special. And cute too ;)

[Kind of Blue]

42. I second that OGR is very special and very cute :)

All the more power to you OneGrassRoot now knowing about your mom, that's a tough one, girl :hug: and in spite of the pain, your continued optimism and good works. There's so much good stuff here through the ups and downs.

Why Syzygy, IMO, you help more than you even know!

[get the red out]

26. I understand moods

I have absolutely gone NUTS in the General Disucssion forum (over religion vs human rights) before; and I know that's karmic for me. That's a topic that when I am not in the best place I will go to war over. No one does that on ASAH, thankfully (you guys are better grounded than me), but boy I've gone some kind of nuts in GD in the past. :crazy: And I feel rotten going in and worse coming out of those situations.

I also know that sometimes I have a very hard time expressing what I really want to say, and get really frustrated if I feel like other people don't pick up on what I am saying. So, knowing I have similar mood difficulties, I sure hope you feel better soon for yourself, not because we can't deal with discussion here. I've created more havoc on GD myself than will ever been seen in ASAH from everyone combined. So here's hoping for positive feelings for WS (and all of us).

:fistbump:

It could just be that time of year, all the thoughts and memories floating around in our sub-consciousnesses. Ghosts of Christmas past and Christmas "supposed-to-be".

[OneGrassRoot]

28. Tempers are REALLY flaring, big time....

in my little world.

People normally very sweet and patient -- BOOM!!! Just freaking out these last two days. Strangers, family members, peeps online...it's crazy!

:nuke:

I'm tempted to run away....

:grouphug:

[get the red out]

29. I am very grateful right now

I am quite grateful that right now I am in a fairly good place. My natural instinct of late is to avoid the mess.

Last week I found myself quite on edge, much of which had a physical cause, much better now thankfully; but the winter, Holiday pressures, and the constant drum-beat of doom (if not in our personal lives then drilled into us by the media)is definitely taking its toll. It is very hard to hold up mentally under all this. And the interesting thing is that the only winner is the media, as I see it, because the right feels doomed by the left while the left all feels doomed by each other and the right - so no actual humans are winning this game at all.

I keep telling myself since I feel half-way ok I need to just try to be light and not dark. Dark's covered, we're weak at the light position.

[Why Syzygy]

33. Oh. Well.

I give my shadow self full reign in the big forums a good deal of the time. You'll get no judgments from me!

Your post is very encouraging for me. Thank you. I know you worry a lot about the RR, and I wish there was something I could say to wind that down a few notches for you. They aren't invincible. They are much more scary when in a mob. Get them singled out, and they are very vulnerable.

I generally hate this time of year. People go stark raving crazy. And, get this. I'm about to put up a creche' at my Farm because most of my neighbors are religious and they are wondering why I don't have one. I'm 'pretending' it represents something else. Am I a sell out?

[get the red out]

39. You're not a sell out

You're a survivor! The resistance movement can't fully infiltrate unless behaving somewhat "native", stealth! B-)

I am very fluent in the second most powerful religion of my locale - BASKETBALL, LOL!

This time of year is rough. No light, lots of hassle.

[Why Syzygy]

45. It sort of

made me ill to my stomach to put it on my farm. It's only 10 more days, right? I'll just think of it as respect for my neighbors. I also have a Kwanzaa candle; which I like a lot.

Since it was mentioned upthread, I'll talk a bit about a year ago when I decided to try Christianity for myself once again. I thought it was a rational explanation for evil in the world. And I do perceive 'evil'. I don't know what else to call the actions of some people. However, I quickly found there were just as many disturbing people on the pro side as there are on the anti side. I cannot be associated with that kind of energy, even by name. Plus, it made me crazy. There are way more questions than answers, and everyone has a different explanation. It shouldn't be that hard to understand or make sense of. So, after some months, I had to admit that it just isn't my calling. If it gives comfort to some, I'm all for it. It did no such thing for me.

I enjoy your basketball chatter :D I'm not into it, but it's fun watching you do it.

[get the red out]

46. The trick to evil

This is just my opinion, but I think the trick to evil, or severely negative energy, is that it slips in to places we are taught automatically expel evil but it just isn't socially acceptable to mention it. It is part of what makes the world a bit cartoonish for me. We are told that Christianity, for instance, is positive, and I believe that the teachings of Christ are mostly positive, but the PEOPLE associated closely with Christianity aren't any more prone to positive than anyone else just because they claim identity as Christian. So for me it's a giant shell game, we are told the negative is under a certain shell and never under another while the shell holder does the old bait and switch. But we are never permitted socially to call his bluff.

I am like you and I do believe in evil, or severely negative energy; I also believe in speaking out against it but not in harming myself or others in doing so. I don't think I could live in this world if I didn't speak up, that's just me. This is why I could not be Buddhist anymore than I could be Christian.

If I couldn't make people laugh with my silliness I would slip headlong into the negative myself and become part of that nasty shell game. That is something I definitely want to avoid. Love, laughter, knitting, and Kentucky Basketball! Ah, I can feel the sanity of the mundane ! :+

[Kind of Blue]

27. Me too, Why Syzgy. I'm sending light and lots of love.

I love you! :hug:

[Why Syzygy]

34. KoB

:hug: You are the sweetest. I think about you a lot. You are probably the strongest person I know. It is easy to allow your love. :cry:

Here's something Spirit gave me a bit ago to help with my healing >
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj-RucYM16c&feature=PlayList&p=A276B4A4AE8D8748&index=1

I'm being looked after.

[Kind of Blue]

38. That video is pretty good!

I was listening and soon found myself totally blank, as in meditation. Stopped thinking about what it was doing to get back into that state.
Thanks, Why Syzygy. Unexpectedly nice way to end the day.

Strength, ha! My secret has been -since the NDE- remembering my sad dead face and knowing that in life, I unknowingly allowed all joy to seep out over the years.

It's good to know that you are being looked after :hug:

[OneGrassRoot]

40. Wow.....

I came here after many of you had shared intense stories. Or I simply missed them. :)

But, Wow, KOB....I didn't know anything about a NDE. I'd love to learn more about this experience if you're inclined to share again -- or direct me to another previous thread from long ago. ;)

:hug:

[Kind of Blue]

43. I'm always ready to share it

because it changed my fracking outlook on life :rofl: I will PEM you. :)

[OneGrassRoot]

41. I love that music.....

lovely, lovely meditation video. Very soothing.

A blessing indeed.

:hug:

[Mist]

14. I give him about a 75% rating. I respect that he has the ability to understand and

explain things from a scientific viewpoint (some of his talks on cell structure and dna). I think he has an ego problem and has to rein it in sometimes. I disagree with his interpretations sometimes--in a long lecture he gave Kerry Cassidy, about the growth of the illuminati, he says the Rockefellers are Christians. Umm, I don't think so. If they're involved with all the crap they're involved with, it's more likely they're what Fulford calls "atonists" (sp?) or luciferians. I also think Wilcock is a bit too rosy-glasses at times--while I'd like to believe in his positive outlook, I think there's a shitstorm to get through first re: implosion of the economy, etc. I do find his take on the Norway spiral believable, as he points out that the spiral appeared near on of the HAARP facilities. I sift what he has to say, and compare with other alternative researchers and writers. I get a kick sometimes when Kerry Cassidy does a gentle smack-down of his ego now and then.

[NuttyFluffers]

47. so, uh, about Wilcock again... find him generally amiable, a tad ego driven - basically human.

not a horrible thing entirely. just another source to listen to; not going to invest my nest eggs according to his advice anyway.

hits his stride when he walks away from his personality and the stage more, but that's sort of a given for people on the whole.

i read no harm.