Here is my prediction for Obama's administration, 12/3/08

[Nancy Waterman]

I found it in the blog archives. I haven't been putting things in the index lately and am relying on the blog.

http://starlightnews.com/wordpress/?p=51

In the coming Obama administration, the president and his team will be seen as wise, thoughtful, and generous, and are likely to remain popular through many difficulties, due to the Sun/Mercury/Jupiter conjunction in the 10th house and sextile the Moon. Jupiter is also semisquare the Venus/Uranus conjunction, lending vision and wisdom to the innovative Uranian tendency to think outside the box and helping the administration to “land on its feet” (Jupiter) during times of unexpected crisis (Uranus). Saturn, however, is opposite Venus/Uranus, and is likely to force constraints and frustrations on the drive to bring transformation and renewal. Saturn will ensure that all creativity be conscientious, cautious, and grounded in reality, as well as sometimes slower than desired.

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This entire configuration enables constructive action in the midst of the sometimes stressful pull between the need for innovation (Uranus) and the recalcitrance of past patterns, financial limitations, and conservative opposition (Saturn).

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The coming four-year term contains many difficult aspects in the chart of the United States. Besides Pluto opposing the US Venus and Jupiter and squaring the US MC during 2009 and 2010, indicative of slow, intense transformation of America’s role in the world (MC) and its financial institutions and wealth, Saturn will be conjunct the MC, square to Venus, Jupiter, the Sun, and Mercury, and conjunct its own position between November 2009 and September 2012. These Saturn transits, other than the square to Jupiter, will all occur three times due to Saturn’s retrograde movement. Saturn implies the need for discipline and restraint, and often causes contraction and loss. It seems likely that the recession will be long and hard, with many bad habits and misguided legal structures to be undone and recalibrated for a healthy 21st Century economy. The retrograde Mercury in the Inaugural chart suggests a need to revisit and revise past mistakes before moving forward. In addition, the Inaugural progressed Venus opposite natal Saturn during most of 2012 will come at the same time as transiting Saturn square US Mercury and square US Pluto (11/2011 through 9/2012), suggesting that the struggle to get trade and economic issues back into a consistent level of prosperity may take the entire presidential term. In a country where instant gratification is endemic, this will be a bitter but necessary pill to swallow

[get the red out]

1. Makes sense

Instant gratification, that's the addiction our country has used to dig itself an enormous hole.

I hope we can grow up.

It sounds like you have this time period pegged.

[Nancy Waterman]

2. The most glaring thing in the chart

is the Venus/Uranus opposite Saturn: the future and ingenuity struggling with the past and conservative rigidity. The Saturn/Venus opposition also points to financial limitations and burdens. This describes the whole term.

[Helga Scow Stern]

3. Not to mention the transiting Saturn-Pluto square

making a T-square with his natal Venus at 1+ Cancer....

[loudsue]

5. Nancy, do you see Obama getting a SECOND term?

With Pluto firmly, now, in Capricorn, it sure feels like he'll be on the hot seat when the revolution begins, and plenty for the pundits to rag on him about 24/7.

:hi: It's good to see you!! :grouphug:

[Fire Walk With Me]

6. Not to intrude, but PC stated that he would indeed be a two-termer.

I also look forward to Nancy's insight..

[loudsue]

7. Who is PC??

I'm glad to hear it, though. It's good to know we don't have to put up with a republican president for a while longer.

[Generic Brad]

8. PC is a poster called Psychic Consortium

Hasn't posted for a while now, but when he/she did, many predictions were posted concerning the future. I think I speak for many here in saying that we miss PC and wish him/her the very best.

[Nancy Waterman]

11. Good to see you, loudsue!!

:hi: back at ya!

[southerncrone]

4. I concur......instant gratification has been the irresponsible culprit.

[rosesaylavee]

9. Great to see you posting!

And thanks for this insight. I think it will be a long hard grind to recovery on all fronts. The past 10 years sure did a number on our collective psyches as well as the economy. Any brights spots seen between now and November 2010?

[Nancy Waterman]

10. A second term win isn't as obvious as the first term one was.

I wouldn't want to make a definite prediction unless I saw who he was running against and that person's chart. I just saw an article about a draft Dick Cheney for 2012 movement, so I looked up his chart. He looks miserable, so that is always good news for us. Put another way, the opposite of what Cheney wants to happen in that election is what will happen.

[mother earth]

12. Have you ever looked at Bernie Sanders chart?

And how about Howard Dean, Dennis Kucinich? It would be nice to have some threads on these three.
It would be a dream to hear how you and ricochetastroman weigh in on these three, and any other astrologers here. I feel like they are our greatest lone voices.

[lildreamer316]

13. Heck, I'm still holding out a bit for Gore.

I don't know that he's in as strong a position as I felt he was for 2008; but you never know.