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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 09:44 PM
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Broadband Internet Service
This is mostly a review, but also a "HOLY CRAP" statement.

Last month I was offered a deal on a new speed of broadband service being offered by Cox Communications, and I took it. I had been operating at 4 Mb/s before, and as of last night, I was bumped up to 9 Mb/s. I didn't expect much because over speeds of about 4-5 Mb/s, one starts running into barriers other than one's personal connection that limit the effective speed of the connection. I was fairly certain I would notice no difference in casual web browsing and expected a slight speed increase when downloading large files. I expected the real performance boost to become apparent when downloading two or more large files and when networking two or more computers that would share the bandwidth. For the most part, my expectations were met, but with some exceptions.

Web browsing many sites is actually a bit faster. Using DU's home page as a testing page, I had checked download/rendering times for loading the full page several times in the past and had calculated a most recent average of 1.8 seconds over 10 separate loads of the page using no cached images. With the new connection speed, that average dropped to 1.4 seconds. This of course is hardly noticeable, but it is an improvement. To get a practical picture of this improvement, I used a testing scenario that loads single, similarly sized graphic images from several sites at once. Prior to the speed upgrade, a 1 minute test completed 10 times, loading 50 images simultaneously, I averaged 482 KB/s or 3.8 Mb/s. At the same time of day, using the same test, I averaged 4.9 Mb/s with the new speed. Over a session of browsing, especially when loading large pages with lots of graphics, I suppose one would notice this. (BTW, I used the home page because it remains fairly consistent in size and doesn't invoke the same the same server code that slows things down when accessing the forums.)

Next, I tried downloading single, large files. For testing, I used a ~20MB .mpg file so that file compression wouldn't be much of a factor. Again doing this ten times, the speed of the download with the new connection averaged 6.5 Mb/s. Prior to the upgrade, I had averaged 3.7 Mb/s for the same file from the same server, close to double the speed, but still not quite utilizing the 9 Mb/s fully. An interesting note here that shows how bottlenecks in the network affect effective speed became apparent during this test. I had a monitor running that updated the actual download speed every second. That speed ranged anywhere from 1.2 Mb/s at the start of the download up to as high as 11.52 Mb/s at some points. (As advertised if you read the fine print, any high speed connection's speed is considered an "average top speed," and this test shows part of what they mean. If I'd done this in the middle of the night, the speeds likely would have fluctuated even higher, which is another part of the averaging equation.)

As expected, the biggest improvement in speed was realized when downloading several large files at the same time. Using four separate FTP connections, I downloaded four separate ~100 MB files from four different servers. My download speed quickly normalized across the four connections so that it remained fairly constant during the entire download, giving a final average of 8.1 Mb/s. I had never intentionally tried doing this with my prior connection under circumstances in which I was taking notes, so I have no idea what speed I was getting before, but I know it wasn't that high.

And on that last note, HOLY CRAP. I've gone from a 300 baud modem i nthe beginning of my "online" days that displayed text from a BBS so slowly that I could actually read it as it appeared to this. It's something of a shock to my system, but I like it.

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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:37 AM
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1. Cable or DSL? nt
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:46 AM
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2. Cable ...

Cox Communications runs cable.

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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 01:35 AM
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3. Holy crap, indeed
The first time I connected my 1200 baud modem to a BBS and saw those colorful ANSI blocks teletype-march up my screen, I got so giddy I had to run to the bathroom. Heh. Same thing happened the day I got on the web. Chatting with a sysop on a BBS in a different state was a boggling milestone, only exceeded by my first web friendship -- with a Spaniard, in a forum run by a Norwegian, with me posting from Japan. Holy crap.

I'm on Cox, too. 5mbs. The speed is decent, but it's a comedown from the service I left in Japan. Japan was an internet backwater, with 33-56K connections on metered phone lines (10 yen every 3 minutes), until around 2000 when DSL suddenly (and I mean suddenly) became ubiquitous. I signed on with an 8mbs service initially, upgraded to 12mbs when it was offered 6 months later. That was more than enough for my needs and didn't trade up to the 24mbs, then 40mbs, and finally 100mbs fiber optic packages that were eventually rolled out.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 01:53 AM
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4. You make me nostalgic ...

I miss BBSes. As much as I enjoy forums like these, they do not quite match the experience of a BBS. I ran one for a time, and I will always consider it one of the best experiences of my life.

I got so nostalgic for them recently that I started looking for a way to re-create my "Rainbow's Edge" BBS that I found and downloaded the old BBS software I used (QBBS) and was going to attempt to use a front door to give it a unique IP address so that people could access it online. Unfortunately I discovered that it would not run under a WinXP DOS shell, and I haven't been able to make it work under a Linux DOS emulator, so I've pretty much given up for the moment.

I remember 1200 baud. That was screaming fast...I just didn't understand at the time why anyone would want anything faster. I mean ... the text went by faster than you could read it. What's the point? :-) Downloading files at the time was not something I commonly did, and I didn't foresee the future. I should have, actually. I spent no small amount of money downloading BBS "doors" in the form of games and messaging systems that were anywhere from 32K - 200K zipped, and it took forever then, so I racked up huge LD bills. At current speeds, my browser wouldn't even have the time to open a download dialog window before the download of those files was finished.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 02:11 AM
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5. I know what you mean
BBSes were always a late night activity for me, so my sessions had an otherworldly Art Bell feel to them. Sitting in the dark in front of a black screen with dazzling phosphorus blocks, exploring, seeing what's out there... in some ways, the clean well-lit web seems almost pedestrian in comparison.
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 10:46 PM
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6. Former sysop(ette) here, too
Run on an Atari 800 with two Percom dbl density, dbl sided drives.
Chuga, chuga, chuga!
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Sgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 06:46 AM
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7. Former Sysop
here as well -- ran it off of an oldstyle Mac.

I still remember when I first got into BBS's. Although I had a 1200 baud modem, about 1/2 the BBS's only had a 300 baud. I also connected to one at 110.

The nice thing about 1200 baud was I could read text at about that speed -- no need for PgUp/PgDwn.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 08:50 PM
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8. Land of the Macintosh

The first BBS I ever signed onto was The Land of the Macintosh, run by, of course, Mac Terry on one of those old-style Macs. He had 1200 baud too. We were all envious.

Trader's Hotline was where I normally hung out, which was run on an Apple IIe and had a HUGE 10 meg storage drive. It was somewhat infamous for some of the people who "traded" there. This wasn't a euphemism for pirating. Secrets were traded in the private areas most people didn't even know existed. (I read the Anarchist's Cookbook there for the first time, as a mild example.) Silicon Surfer and Captain Crunch stopped by occasionally. I was oblivious at the time but learned later the sysop had run in some techno-anarchist circles in the 70's. He shut down the BBS in the late 80's, apparently due to fallout from the so-called Hacker Wars. Some idiot rich kid took over, and it thereafter sucked. So, a lot of the former regulars started their own BBS's. Mine and one run by a guy who called himself The Modulator lasted the longest. He got 9600 baud first, which turned out to be the inspiration behind my getting my first job ... so I could get one too. :-)



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