Duke's Mayo

[eleny]

Does anyone know if it's sold in stores or is it only available from Sauer's? I've never seen it here out West and wanted to try it. But it's $15.00 for 2 quarts mail order from Sauer's. So, I'm hesitating to make that plunge. http://orders.cfsauer.com/showitemlist.asp?category=37

I hear it tastes really great.

[wildeyed]

1. We have it in NC.

Never noticed anything particularly special about it. What is supposed to be so great about it?

Question about making homemade mayo: How do you know if the eggs are safe? I got some fresh eggs from my Community Supported Farm. Does that mean they are free from salmonella? I have never made fresh mayo, but it sounds great.

[wakemeupwhenitsover]

2. Homemade mayo is the best.

I haven't made it in years, ever since salmonella. I got that once. At first I was afraid I was going to die, then I was afraid I wasn't going to die. (Not 100% positive is was salmonella, but I'd made homemade ice cream & wasn't particularly careful to let the custard get hot enough. 12 hours later I was in serious pain.)


As far as your eggs, is there someone you could ask? If they're from chickens that have been tested then they're ok. Also, some markets sell salmonella-free eggs. I think they've been pasteurized. I always use those if I'm making a recipe that calls for raw eggs.

edited to clarify

[wildeyed]

3. Thanks!

I will email the farm to ask about the chickens.

[wakemeupwhenitsover]

4. I'll bet they are.

I would love to know the answer (if it's not too much trouble) when you find out.

best

[wildeyed]

7. Here is what the farmer emailed me:

Me: Do you know if the eggs you brought me last week are salmonella free? I want to make fresh mayo, but not get food poisoning. Thanks!

Farmer: All eggs have a protective coating on them which is secreted from the prenal gland on the rear of the chicken. This coating protects from any bacteria. However, once the eggs are washed with water they become susceptible to bacteria due to the removal of this covering. Hence, you should only wash the eggs right before you use them and crack them in a seperate dish before using them to make sure they look normal. These are all good procedures to follow no matter where your eggs come from. I hope this helps you understand.

Me: Then why are the eggs from the grocery store considered unsafe? Are they pre-washed by the packager? I thought it also had something to do with the chickens themselves. That some chickens factory farm had systemic issues that caused the salmonella.

Thanks for the info!

Farmer: There is a standard for chickens but that has to do with the ability to keep Salmonella from spreading to anything. All of his birds are checked and tagged due to those inspections. However, the truth is that salmonella lies in many products, on counters, in trucks, etc. Because of that when eggs are washed of that waxy coating they are susceptable to all of it.

Store bought eggs are washed and cleaned before you see them usually so if their synthetic coating doesn't work correctly te egg is then unsafe. That is why its important to wash your eggs only before you use them and to crack all of them in a seperate container befre using them. I hope that helps!

[wakemeupwhenitsover]

8. It sounds to me as if they're safe

but he doesn't want to come right out & say it. Is that what you're reading?

You know, I heard once that only 1 in a 1000 eggs had salmonella, but something like 80% of chickens you buy in the market did. They said the reason is that when chickens are butchered (is that the right term?) they're bathed in a communal bath so most of them get infected. I think that's why I wasn't careful about raw eggs; I just figured the risk was really slight.

best


edited to apologize to Eleny for hijacking her thread!

Sorry Eleny! I've never heard of Duke's. We use Best Foods-Hellman's in your area.

ps Why is there 2 different names? Eddy's & Dreyer's ice cream is also 2 different names depending on where you live. That seems to me to be really weird.

[Stinky The Clown]

9. In both cases they're two companies who merged (long ago)

and had strong brand names in different markets.

At least that's what I heard on foodteevee ....... or, in the case of Dryers/Edys, maybe it was the History Channel

[eleny]

10. Hi wakme!

I'm glad the thread evolved the way it has. I followed the egg conversation closely to learn more about all this.

My 2¢ here, too. When I read the final word from the farmer, my thought was that I'll stick to store bought mayo - BF & H brands. But I bet I'm missing out on a very different flavor of fresh made.

I can remember when we used to make homemade eggnog with fresh eggs. My recipe was a much thinner, lighter nog that we enjoyed better than store bought. At least we can still probably make it with the egg alternative. Not so with mayo, I guess.

[wakemeupwhenitsover]

11. I think you could still make mayo.

I just haven't done it in a while. I get on a kick for some dish & do it & do it, then forget all about it & go on to the next.

The eggs that are salmonella free look & taste just like raw eggs. I think they heat them to a certain temp & hold them (probably like pasteurized milk) to make sure any bugs are killed.

Once, some viewer asked Martha about all the raw eggs she used in her recipes. Martha responded that she'd had her chickens for years & they didn't have salmonella & it was safe. Dear Martha, that is like nooo help to the rest of us.

best

edited to add: the eggs I'm talking about come in a carton, just like regular eggs. NOT like Egg-Beaters.

[calico1]

5. I ordered some once too after hearing

so many rave reviews about it. Its a good mayo. But I honestly didn't find it any better than Hellman's (Best Foods in the West, I think). I would not spend the money again. It is really no better than Hellman's so I suggest you save your money and just get that.

[eleny]

6. Thanks, we love Hellman's

[ernstbass]

12. Dukes mayo is the greatest

but I wouldn't pay $15 for 2 quarts. You can find it anywhere in the Southeast. But it really does taste better than other mayos!