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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 07:03 PM
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Anyone upgrading to OX 10.6?
I've got Tiger, 10.4.x

I'm just wondering if upgrading to 10.6 would be worth it at this time.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 09:34 PM
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1. Check your apps, but if you have the hardware, do it
I read this AM that Adobe CS4 apps should be fine (though not Adobe CS3 apps)

I pre-bought but will wait a couple days, just in case.

As with any platform, new OS releases will bring about changes. It's just fun going to tech forums and the windows zealots mock OS X while Apple pundits mock Windows (usually with greater veracity...). Reality is, both sides are right... reality is, anybody's also a fool to keep giving microsoft more money for beta quality products, but that's another argument.
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comtec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 04:35 AM
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2. i completely agree!
god help me I agree'd with a mac-ee ;)
I'm running the beta. I think next year when the "trial" runs out I'll jump back into Ubuntu.
Maybe I'll be able to dual-boot with hackintosh :)
That reminds me I should probably buy the latest OSX when it's out.
30 bux for an upgrade sounds good :)
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 11:54 AM
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3. I read this morning that CS3 is said to be okay but CS2 is a no-go... BTW,
Edited on Thu Aug-27-09 12:02 PM by Deja Q
good luck with the illegal hacking. Never mind that hackers often put in malware (to create botnets at best, to steal your personal information at worst), but every time Apple releases an update, your hackintosh is at risk of being rendered unusable.





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comtec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 12:57 AM
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5. keep in mind I own whatever version im planning of running
well at least i bought the Disc.
But that is a good point.
I mostly want it to play around with.
My mate will kill me if i buy another computer >.< so emulation is all I can do atm lol
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 12:08 PM
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6. I'm awaiting FedEx. It should be here before 3 PM
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 08:55 PM
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4. Here's a site that has tested difference pieces of software in 10.6
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 11:58 PM
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39. Site lists TechTool Pro 5 as working, but the TechTool developers aren't making any promises:
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 04:32 PM
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46. In early Sept, however, MicroMat released a TechTool Deluxe 3.1.3 updater
that they say ensures Snow Leopard compatibility for that product, which contains some features of Tech Tool Pro

http://www.micromat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=204&Itemid=61
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 12:10 AM
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41. atMonitor indeed works, but I first had to download the most recent version
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 12:20 AM
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42. Site has been updated to indicate rEFIt works
Edited on Sun Sep-06-09 12:48 AM by struggle4progress
1. This bit was done from my Ubuntu disk, accessed by rEFIt

<edits:>

2. This bit was done from my Windows disk. Something was odd with Vista: it didn't boot from rEFIt as expected, though I did access the boot via GRUB after calling rEFIt. Vista insisted on being reauthenticated. Various settings were lost


3. This bit was done from my SL disk, accessed by rEFIt

rEFIT may not be that important: I used it in the course of Ubuntu installation, and I'll probably remove it

But this has at least verified that the SL update didn't terribly screw up Bootcamp and the Bootcamp installation of Vista on a second disk. I won't touch Paragon until the product is updated for SL compatibility (next week?)
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 11:37 PM
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44. Downloaded iStat Menus again but can't get it working
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 12:48 PM
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45. Matlab has some glitches.

... I have Matlab 2007a and y axis labels in plots are basically being printed in reverse, so they’re unreadable ...
August 31st, 2009
Pouncing on Snow Leopard
http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2009/08/31/pouncing-on-snow-leopard/

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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 04:44 PM
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47. smc fan control seems to work pretty much as before, as indicated
Control of the power supply fan is still inert
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 02:17 PM
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7. Just finished the install from 5.8 to 6. Feels snappier.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 01:50 PM
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14. Given how snappy 10.5.6 was when moving way from Vista and XP,
10.6 should be a real dream! :9

(I also love starting AfterEffects - it says "4% of 3.0GB in use" (120MB?!!!!). Can't wait to see what it reads after I install 10.6! :woohoo: )
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 03:03 PM
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17. I gained about 7 gigs. My HP 5610 OfficeJet is not working. I'm awaiting
new drivers.

KompoZer asked me to install Rosetta so it could work. I installed it and it works.

Cyberduck, needed an upgrade

I installed the beta of Inkscape and now it works.

OmniWeb updated, though there was no need.

Shiira works.

GIMP works

folding@home console works.

Tex-Edit Plus works. Older versions didn't, but new one does.

Digital Photo Professional does work
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 12:08 AM
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40. Epson Stylus Photo R2400 works, as does Logitech G11 drivers But WindowShade, Silk, FontCard do not.
All Adobe (CS4) apps work great. FASTER than before, especially disk accessing.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 03:35 PM
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8. I've liked Leopard better than Tiger, so I'll try the upgrade
I may have problems with Paragon and rEFIt
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 04:31 PM
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9. So far, so good. I noticed that sending mail to groups has changed. You have
to do it through the address book.
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moggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 06:30 PM
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10. I'll wait
I need my Macs to work, including a fair bit of third-party software, so I'll let other people find the bugs and incompatibilities before I make the jump.
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bbernardini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 07:28 PM
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11. So far, so good.
As a fellow Mac user said, it seems "snappier".
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 11:02 PM
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12. I am loving it.
Very responsive so far. Of course, I have been using it for roughly 1 hour and so far 99% of my old applications work without hesitation (only lost "Calibre" and a couple of screensavers).
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 01:49 PM
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13. I mail-ordered it - should arrive next week.
Apart from zdnet where those windows wankers only make snide comments (I'm not the first to say they're little more than a marketing outlet for microsoft these days), everything I've read is in Apple's favor. Legitimately.

I also bought the family pack, even though (as said by the Apple Store dude) it's possible to install it on more than one Mac. I prefer to play fair - maybe Apple won't do what microsoft and others do in return. (anyone who uses hackintosh is a person I pray gets a virus and loses EVERYTHING.)
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 01:58 PM
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15. Doing my time machine as I type
this afternoon I will be doing it. But I need to be sure to have a FULL backup, just in case.

Windows nightmares come to mind, if you know what I mean...

:-)

Picked it up today when I went to get a key fixed at the genius bar.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 08:46 PM
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19. And I am damn glad I did
Edited on Sat Aug-29-09 09:09 PM by nadinbrzezinski
bad disk... restoring as I type on the netbook. Hung on 28 minutes for over an hour... taking that disk to the store tomorrow.

Fracking Frack...

Oh and kiddies after two hours... fricking, fracking... I got a macbook back

Tomorrow will go to the Mac Store receipt in hand...

Hey guys, got a bad disk...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 06:00 PM
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21. Got a new disk, doing another time machine right now
later will try again. If not this is going to the genius bar tomorrow... frackity frack, I hate it when drives might be dying...

Yes hard drives fail, but damn it... it feels that all is falling apart...

Oh and remember kiddies, never ever do an OS upgrade BEFORE you do a full back up... might seem like a bore, but it will save your data...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 07:31 PM
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22. Well got the upgrade, was a bad disk
I still have issues with the ITUNES and the store, so off to the genius tomorrow morning.

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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 09:48 PM
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23. I had a problem with my documents and iTunes also
I had to do the migration assistance twice. After recovering from Time Machine all of my old settings and documents using the Migration Assistance application for a second time I had to log off from the current user (the new user) and sign back in using my old account.

Then I went to System Preferences>Accounts and erased the new account keeping my original (old) account and the "guest". That's how i found all my missing documents and my full iTunes Library. I don't know if that is your problem but that was what worked for me.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 10:30 PM
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25. Spent four hours at the genious bar today
the machine staid... after much going down the diagnostic tree, and seeing something really weird, SAFE MODE on Itunes... we decided that perhaps it was the actual drive.

So they are changing drive.

Safe Mode, I had Windwos flashbacks, to the Blue Screen of Death, and every techie in the store going... SAFE MODE on UNIX, who knew?

So once I get it back... time machine for me. For the moment working on ... the XP box...

I love my lappie but at this point I had already gotten into a nice routine using the Macbook for all...

Safe Mode, on Unix, I am still chucking... (Ok quite a bit of BSD, still chuckling... tech just went... WTF? we all went... is the blue Screen to come and when did XP or Vista sneek into this box?

Yes, bad Windows jokes were told as well.

Of course I also got to see what the poor guys have to deal with... every day. Ranging from the idiots who go... backup my data ME, WHY I am so special... (Oh and what do you mean it costs 100 bucks to do a full backup? Me only thinking, what do you guys do it on, an external drive?)

To woman demanding they FIX her cracked screen NOW... because she needs her computer Yesterday, well daughter does... poor guys, I would be pulling my hair with some of these folks. Me I just went, ok, reseting does not work, restoring the Pod does not work... putting in software does not go... ok lets see what sys utilities tells us... so it went bad sectors. It seems I was having a slow failing drive... which is par for the course, they do fail... just a matter of when not if.

Oif...
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 10:40 PM
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26. Sorry to hear that
Hope u get your machine soon. :hi:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 10:55 PM
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27. I will and since I do have a full time machine
well I am set anyway.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 10:48 PM
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28. Going back tomorrow, wrote down the error
and it is software...

Egads, I do not know enough of Unix to fix it myself... and it should take them ten minutes, at most.

Now if this was a windows machine I could go to the registry (equivalent) remove the bad file and install a fresh version of it... but I have no such command (Yet) of Unix. So will let the experts play along with the root and all that happy horse.

My knowledge is good enough to know... to take it back...
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 02:54 PM
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16. Upgraded my three Macs today
An iMac, a Macbook Pro and a MacPro.

No problems at all and the MacPro is heavily laden with pro apps (Photoshop, Aperture, Final Cut, Parallels, Xcode).

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 07:28 PM
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18. Expensive, but darn well worth it! Then add in Snow Leopard, which makes better use of
multiple cores, and

:party::party::party::party::party::party::party::party::party::party::party::party::party::party::party:

I'll probably get a Mac Pro in 2010, when more power will be necessary (e.g. AfterEffects)
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 09:35 AM
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20. Buy a stripped-down model, then add third party enhancements
I've been buying Macs since 1985 and have always saved money by adding RAM, hard drives and other enhancements after the purchase.

I don't know why Apple charges so damned much for memory! (Well, because they can, right?)

I'm running 14GB of RAM and 2TB of RAID in my Mac Pro with another 2+ TB as backup. With Snow Leopard I might be able to run more RAM than I can afford in this life or the next.

It's about the same cost to run a meth lab, but legal, much safer and just as addictive. And I have all my teeth!
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 06:36 PM
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24. Ok, When I went from Tiger to Leopard it was like night and day.
Snow Leopard is a vastly technical improvement on Leopard.

If you have an Intel Mac it is a no-brainer.

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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 01:27 AM
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29. $30 Snow Leopard Disc Can Upgrade Tiger
http://www.cultofmac.com/30-snow-leopard-disc-can-upgrade-tiger/15160

Mossberg claims Snow Leopard upgrade can upgrade Tiger systems sans Leopard ...
http://www.9to5mac.com/snow_leopard_nugget

Reports: $US29 Snow Leopard upgrade works on Tiger, too
But that's a violation of Apple's license, says upgrade expert
Gregg Keizer (Computerworld (US)) 28 August, 2009 06:45
Tags: upgrades, tiger, snow leopard, Mac OS X, Apple
http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/316516/reports_us29_snow_leopard_upgrade_works_tiger_too

$29 Snow Leopard retail disc will install over Tiger
It looks like Apple has "conceded" that it's possible to install Mac OS X 10.6 straight on to a Mac with 10.4 installed, despite Apple's official stance that a Mac Box Set is required to do so. That doesn't automatically mean that you should, though.
By Chris Foresman | Last updated August 27, 2009 8:45 AM CT
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/08/29-snow-leopard-retail-disc-will-install-over-tiger.ars
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 10:05 AM
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31. Thanks for that!
:thumbsup:

Hope you are OK.

:hugs:
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 01:59 AM
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32. Doin ok cept fer being nutzy as evah
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 06:15 PM
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30. upgraded my machine at home late last night...
Seems to have cleared up the lingering iCal sync problem over "mobileme" so that's worth the price of admission right there, if it sticks.

Took about 80 minutes or so, although when it told me it had "two minutes" left, it still took about 20... finally, it seemed to be done, but was just sitting there. I hit the up arrow a few times which seemed to wake it up and it finished for restart.

"Broke" both "CopyPaste" and "URLwell" and "APE/Windowshade" and I think something else that I had launching at startup... offered to run with Rosetta, but for now I've opted not to. Might try that later.

Not sure I can live without CopyPaste at the office... anyone know a good substitute? I need multiple clips in a row, and would love to have a few "permanent" clips for form-letter responses I have to do all the time.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 06:26 PM
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33. On my white macbook, took about an hour to install. I updated several programs first,
Edited on Sat Sep-05-09 07:07 PM by struggle4progress
if I knew there were SL compatibility issues

<edit:> Did a TM backup before installation. Installation unmounted the TM disk. Restart had no effect: I had to unplug and replug it before the system saw it. The first post-installation TM backup may take a while, since the size of the OS changes by gigabytes

<edit edit:> Yep. It's an 8gb+ TM backup. It will take a while
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 08:02 PM
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34. If current progress is any indication, my first TM back up under SL may take 10 hours or more
Edited on Sat Sep-05-09 08:02 PM by struggle4progress
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 09:25 PM
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35. Less than 1/4 way through TM back up after 3 hours, as expected
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 04:08 AM
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43. Post-installation TM back-up took 10.5 hours. Curse you, USB external HD!
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 09:31 PM
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36. Took about 40 min to install on my desktop. The external HD in this case remounted itself
Edited on Sat Sep-05-09 10:03 PM by struggle4progress
after the installation

<edit:> 8gb+ changes required for post-installation TM backup

<edit edit:> backup took about 20 minutes
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 10:31 PM
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37. HP Photosmart C4480 prints fine. Haven't tried scanner yet
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 10:41 PM
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38. For scanning, followed advice from an HP webpage not to use the HP software I was used to
but to use Snow Leopard's software

It's under System Preferences > Print & Fax

select the scan tab then Open Scanner then Show Details

after selecting appropriate options, punch Scan

Had no problems scanning to a pdf file with my HP C4480
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