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sophie996 Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:43 AM
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manicure required by activist judge

Susan Swartz's column today in the Santa Rosa (CA) Press Democrat is on the woman bartender who was told she must use more cosmetics. Sometimes the "little things" are pretty scary--and not so little.

A straight shot of discrimination:
http://www1.pressdemocrat.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050111/NEWS/50111004/1069/NEWS06
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:05 AM
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1. I find the whole idea disgusting
"The court ruled that requiring women to wear makeup and nail polish and have their hair styled does not impose an extra expense of time or money and therefore is not an unequal burden. The men are told only to cut their fingernails and keep their hair short."


And lets just say - to equalize it, (if women ARE forced to go along with this) women should be able to submit for reimbursement - the bill from the hair stylist and the manicurist, etc. and they should be able to go on company time. So then - it would cost so much more to have women working in the same job - they would want to just hire men. :argh:



"A Harrah's spokesman said that to require service employees to look a certain way is no different than CBS' insisting its reporters wear makeup on TV"

It's my impression that TV make-up is done at the studio by people the TV station hires and pays for.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:22 AM
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2. It depends.
In smaller markets, the TV people do their own make-up.

They are taught how to apply make-up professionally, but they do it themselves. However, I am not sure who pays for it.

I will ask my son. He does radio, and does not have to worry about that. But he know the television people here.
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:17 AM
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4. Yes but they require it of BOTH men and women
If they want to compare the two, then they should require their male employees to also wear make-up - just like the television anchors do.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 07:37 AM
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3. My sister works as a flight attendant
They also have appearance codes. I am not sure how the rules for men and women compare. She uses fake nails now because her own nails didn't ever look good enough. While this and the other case seem unfair, we must remember that appearance discrimination does legally take place (although usually on the hiring end of things) and is usually harder on women than men.
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Logansquare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 09:11 PM
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5. I have *never* looked at the nails of a flight attendant, other than
to assertain that they were clean. It's scary that the people who are responsible for getting us out of the plane alive are required to have french manicured talons that may actually hinder the process.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 06:24 PM
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7. Well, at least they change out of their high heals on the plane
They are required to walk onto the plane wearing them though. As far as the nail thing, her superviser told her that your nails are the first thing that a customer sees. I don't really notice finger nails on flight attendents much either.
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RazzleCat Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 12:37 PM
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8. Yes the hands are the first thing you see
I know that for me when I see long nails with polish I wonder how much dirt is under them. I don't like long nails (I have had them) because I know how nasty they can get.
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seaj11 Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 05:33 PM
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6. Whoa, that's weird. nt
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