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hue (571 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-11 08:27 AM Original message |
Neutrino experiment repeat at Cern finds same result |
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ananda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-11 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
1. OK, doesn't appear to be an error. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-11 09:09 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Or... The same undiscovered error was made twice |
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BadgerKid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-11 09:40 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. That would be called systematic error. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-11 09:48 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. "All legs amputated. Frog completely deaf." |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-11 01:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. The only change they made to the experiment.. |
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caraher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 07:43 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Right |
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GodlessBiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-11 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
2. Interesting, but it may be a gravitational time dilation difference between the two clocks. |
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hue (571 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-11 08:51 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. re:it may be a gravitational time dilation difference between the two clocks |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-11 09:12 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. The experiment relies on having "synchronized" clocks in two places |
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jayfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-11 09:17 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I believe they used a mobile atomic clock to synchronize local time sources. -NT- |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-11 03:27 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Yes, and "mobile" and "clock" raise issues when those words appear together |
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BadgerKid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-11 04:08 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Yes, agreeing on "now" appears to be the fundamental issue. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-11 04:45 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. There was a note that was published by another group |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-11 07:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. It wasn't a group, it was one guy, and I think it's been discounted |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-11 10:13 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Hm |
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GodlessBiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-11 11:22 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. A clock ticks more slowly in a stronger gravitational field, too. The clock... |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-11 11:28 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. There are a lot of clocks |
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hue (571 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-11 01:25 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Yes this is true! Much has to be checked out-->so far not conclusive. n/t |
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caraher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
19. All this stuff about clocks and simltaneity is true and relevant... |
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hue (571 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
20. CERN Do-over Results in Faster-Than-Light Particles ... Again |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
21. Those damned neutrinos. Star Trek speculations would be fun... |
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