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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 04:27 PM
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Any physics majors aboard? I need to understand what is meant
By the term "frame" when used by Tom Bearden, as he describes scalar energy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wypYFe3JXdE&feature=player_embedded

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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 04:31 PM
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1. Energy is a scalar. "Scalar energy" stinks of amateur science.
Can't watch videos.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 04:49 PM
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5. See response number 4.
In other words, when two physicists are discussing energy, and they are dealing with it on a higher level, such as quantum mechanics, and they use the term "frame" what do they mean by that term?

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mike r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 04:38 PM
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2. "Dr physicist" Tom Bearden purchased his Ph.D. from Trinity College and University, which is
Edited on Fri Jul-23-10 04:40 PM by mike r
"a British institution with no building, campus, faculty, or president, and run from a post office box in Sioux Falls, South Dakota"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_E._Bearden

This guy is full of shit. It's doubtful he ever took or understood Physics 101.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 04:47 PM
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4. Uh, my question was NOT what do you think about
Tom Bearden.

My question was, and I will repeat it, in the usual physics discussions that come up, what is meant by the term "frame."

If you don't knw, feel free to say so, but I am not asking you for your opinion.
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mike r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 04:54 PM
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7. Frame means (inertial) frame of reference
Most of what Bearden says about physics - and Maxwell's equations in particular - is conceptually and mathematically wrong.

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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 06:05 PM
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8. Thank you for that definition. n/t
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 04:40 PM
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3. Bullshit
Edited on Fri Jul-23-10 04:40 PM by izquierdista
"Capacitance changes and charge changes when you rotate the frame" Ummmm, no, that wouldn't be what Uncle Albert told us. The genius of his special relativity is that scalar quantities like charge and capacitance DON'T change under a rotation of coordinate systems.
(frame = coordinate system)
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 04:49 PM
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6. Correct.
That labels this video as snake oil--if the stupid graphics at the beginning didn't immediately tip us off.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 06:17 PM
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9. Just go ahead and make up whatever it is you want it to mean.
It's all pseudoscientific crap. You know that.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 05:33 PM
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10. Some of it yes... but not all of it, if that were true then science
would not be turned on its head every so often.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-10 02:23 PM
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11. That turning's rarely done by bald-faced liars who shop at degree mills. (nt)
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-10 05:58 PM
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12. Your point? n/t
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caraher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-10 08:14 PM
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13. The point's pretty clear I think
Some people's claims CAN be safely ignored because they don't even understand the science they claim to overthrow
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-10 10:36 PM
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14. And they're demonstrably fraudulent as well as ignorant
So not only does the guy not know what he's talking about in and of itself with the basic terminology he used to start most of the discussion on this thread, he's proven himself to be too untrustworthy to listen to in the first place by forging his academic credentials.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 12:22 PM
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15. bald faced liars with phony degrees should not be taken seriously.
Nor should people who support and spread their bald faced lies.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 05:31 AM
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16. Ahhhhh there you are.... here is something for you to ponder
http://www.nrao.edu/pr/2010/algol/




Giant Magnetic Loop Sweeps Through Space Between Stellar Pair
Astronomers have found a giant magnetic loop stretched outward from one of the stars making up the famous double-star system Algol. The scientists used an international collection of radio telescopes to discover the feature, which may help explain details of previous observations of the stellar system.


Artist's conception of Algol star system
with radio image superimposed on grid.
CREDIT: Peterson et al., NRAO/AUI/NSF
"This is the first time we've seen a feature like this in the magnetic field of any star other than the Sun," said William Peterson, of the University of Iowa.

The pair, 93 light-years from Earth, includes a star about 3 times more massive than the Sun and a less-massive companion, orbiting it at a distance of 5.8 million miles, only about six percent of the distance between Earth and the Sun. The newly-discovered magnetic loop emerges from the poles of the less-massive star and stretches outward in the direction of the primary star. As the secondary star orbits its companion, one side -- the side with the magnetic loop -- constantly faces the more-massive star, just as the same side of our Moon always faces the Earth.

The scientists detected the magnetic loop by making extremely detailed images of the system using an intercontinental set of radio telescopes, including the National Science Foundation's Very Long Baseline Array, Very Large Array, and Robert C. Byrd Green Bank Telescope, along with the Effelsberg radio telescope in Germany. These radio telescopes were used as a single observing system that offered both great detail, or resolving power, and high sensitivity to detect very faint radio waves. When working together, these telescopes are known as the High Sensitivity Array.
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 09:19 AM
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17. that's pretty interesting
But as an astronomer who is interested in stellar magnetic fields, I'm unsure what this has to do with the thread.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 10:42 AM
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18. You need to ask yourself where all these stellar magnetic fields
as well as the ones floating around in space come from, if you are interested that is. I am leaving so as not to disturb the topic of this thread.

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2008/30oct_ftes/
Magnetic Portals Connect Earth to the Sun

Oct. 30, 2008: During the time it takes you to read this article, something will happen high overhead that until recently many scientists didn't believe in. A magnetic portal will open, linking Earth to the sun 93 million miles away. Tons of high-energy particles may flow through the opening before it closes again, around the time you reach the end of the page.
"It's called a flux transfer event or 'FTE,'" says space physicist David Sibeck of the Goddard Space Flight Center. "Ten years ago I was pretty sure they didn't exist, but now the evidence is incontrovertible."


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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 01:13 PM
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20. stellar magnetic fields are caused by moving plasma.
Plasma comes from nuclear fusion resulting from the gravitational collapse of interstellar gases.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 01:12 PM
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19. HD's one of those "electric universe" people.
moon craters are caused by lightning, comets are sparks, etc.

So naturally he/she pops up in a pseudoscience thread with his/her latest canards.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 05:21 PM
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21. Thank you for your jaded input, it was well received. n/t
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 05:25 PM
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22. Don't forget the big one...
The sun is a big lightbulb; fusion is a lie.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 03:56 PM
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24. Wow, they actually deny fusion? (nt)
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 04:56 PM
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25. And gravity.
The whole argument is that gravity is to weak to cause astronomical phenomenon, and that it's really the electromagnetic force.

Also, aliens visited the ancient earth. Because racial minorities are to primitive to build ancient ruin by themselves.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 07:46 PM
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27. The alien astronauts veiled-bigotry's pretty much the free square on the woo bingo card these days
Denying the existence of fusion is impressive, though, considering people have been implementing it for fifty-eight years now.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 07:06 PM
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26. Yep. Read more here:
Edited on Wed Jul-28-10 07:07 PM by laconicsax
http://www.electric-cosmos.org/sun.htm
(Thanks to HD for having the link as a sig line a while back.)

I like the part that says that the sun doesn't power itself, but is powered by the space surrounding it. :crazy:
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 07:50 PM
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28. My brain hurts.
I assume they have a turtles-all-the-way-down approach to figuring out what space itself is powered by...
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 09:06 PM
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29. It's probably eels.
You know, the electric sort.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 09:03 AM
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23. Fucking magnets.
How do they work?
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