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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 06:22 PM Original message |
Placebos work -- even without deception |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
1. IMO IBS is mostly in the head. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
2. Oh good. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
3. Early humans needed the witch doctor to shake a rattle |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
4. People watch Fox and think they're getting news. That's a placebo effect. nt |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
5. And here are the key words: "reported adequate symptom relief" |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 09:55 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Isn't that the goal? |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 01:31 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. I would think the goal is actually treating illness, not fooling people into thinking they're better |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 05:04 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. ................. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 07:08 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Feeling better vs getting better |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 07:17 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. the very definition of IBS is based on symptoms |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 07:25 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. And hey, that's great. |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 07:38 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. responses are the |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 07:59 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. You left off a key word at the beginning of your subject line / first sentence. |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 08:25 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. uh |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 08:33 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. And uh... |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 01:11 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. not true |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 01:13 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Nope, your study was busted. |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 02:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. "not a single objective measure" |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 03:45 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Busted. |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 01:02 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. here |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:54 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Lovely red herring you're offering. |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 06:03 PM Response to Reply #5 |
21. This has been one of my chief objections to placebo over the years |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 01:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. A question |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:21 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. The mind-body connection is an illusion |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:37 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. What does it mean for something to be "purely perceptual" if mind and body are not distinct? |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
26. You wouldn’t lie to me, would you? |
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