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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 07:29 PM Original message |
Have there ever been any imperfect vaccines or vaccine ingredients in the history of vaccination? |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
1. NO vaccine is perfect |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 07:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. What is that supposed to mean? |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
25. It's quite obvious what it means. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
16. You don't have to make an unfounded claim to get attacked |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:19 PM Response to Reply #16 |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:09 AM Response to Reply #1 |
89. I LOVE THIS ENTIRE THREAD!!! |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:46 AM Response to Reply #89 |
91. Excellent question. n/t |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:44 PM Response to Reply #89 |
95. Because vaccination is a religion to some who have exchanged one |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
2. Of course there have but that doesn't outweigh the good most do. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 07:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Correlation causation, but correlation is a precondition for causation. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:41 PM Response to Reply #5 |
42. That is a problem, you do support correlation causation. Even in this post you do. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:03 PM Response to Reply #42 |
52. OK, so I had one sentence of overcharged rhetoric. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:27 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Why do you continue to say I feel you are my enemy? Speaking of overcharged rhetoric. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:45 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. I did not say anything overcharged. I asked you two questions, which you sidestepped |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:07 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. How is questioning your "Do you feel I am your enemy" a personal attack? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:17 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. You have not addressed the issue of the OP in any one of your dozen or so posts in this thread. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:18 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. You never answer my questions. eom |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:28 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Just antipathetic gamesmanship. Got it....nt |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:35 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. you never answer my questions. just bash. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:38 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. What is it about the topic of vaccines that always engenders this sort of nonsense non-discussion? |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:40 AM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Asks the person who always pretends reality is something else during these discussions. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. The OP wasn't being anti-science. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:18 PM Response to Reply #9 |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
41. OP wrote this, which is highly inaccurate. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:44 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. You're right. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:46 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. uppityperson, didn't you see all the flaming going on in this very thread? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:50 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. I see the flames starting with the OP's rhetoric. Perhaps starting with a more civil |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:57 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. OK. So maybe there was some rhetorical hyperbole in the OP, but the deleted posts |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:36 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. No, the flamer, in one of the posts deleted by the mod, |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:39 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. You mean like "medication could possibly be in order"? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:41 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. I don't know what you're referring to. n/t |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:02 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. What is your point? That I cannot return fire? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:05 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Your OP IS about personal behavior. I am only allowed to criticize others, not you? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:09 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. LOL. The OP is NOT about personal behavior. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:16 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Your OP is not about personal behavior? Wtf?Yes, it is. It is about how people behave posting here |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:26 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Again, you are making this discussion about my rhetoric. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:33 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. You never answer my questions, just blast me. Try again... |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 10:35 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. What is it about the topic of vaccines that always engenders this sort of nonsense non-discussion? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 02:28 AM Response to Reply #69 |
86. In another post, s/he gave an example of a recent discussion |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:48 PM Response to Reply #56 |
96. I consider myself |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:52 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Good to see you, my long, long lost alter ego! |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:53 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. LOL |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:02 PM Response to Reply #96 |
100. Me, too, mzmolly. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:09 PM Response to Reply #100 |
103. Thanks pnwmom. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:17 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. Yeah, it's amazing how good we are at being three different people. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:21 PM Response to Reply #104 |
106. Indeed! |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 05:01 PM Response to Reply #48 |
110. It's probably also the repetive anti-vax routines that the purveyor of the OP has been offering... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 05:59 PM Response to Reply #110 |
112. . |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:12 PM Response to Reply #110 |
116. To you, spam = whatever you don't want to see or hear. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:14 PM Response to Reply #116 |
118. You have to post something rational in the first place. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 05:03 PM Response to Reply #48 |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
4. When you present some scientifically-based information, |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 07:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. OK. Bombs away. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Thanks for the link. Yes, this is typical. n/t |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
27. Could it be because your BS has been proven baseless already? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:37 PM Response to Reply #27 |
39. I guess. But as anyone with the patience to shift through that entire thread can attest, |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:41 AM Response to Reply #39 |
80. Anyone with that kind of patience, is not going to be your pal. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 07:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:07 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Exhibit A |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:09 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. He did the same thing to me. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:14 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. ROTFLMAO! |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
28. If he were the only one, I'd just write it off. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:25 PM Response to Reply #28 |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:27 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. There you go again. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:55 PM Response to Reply #34 |
99. One wonders how many blatant, disrespectful, infractions are necessary before one is banned? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:31 PM Response to Reply #31 |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:26 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. mhatrw, my husband is a PhD scientist, |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:34 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Does he have any insight into why vaccines are considered so sancrosanct? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:39 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Not a clue. Nor do our doctors, who took my concerns |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:52 PM Response to Reply #40 |
49. Well, my brother just had a daughter last February. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:40 PM Response to Reply #49 |
59. Good for that doctor. Another thing I would say to your brother |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:50 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Great advice! |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:42 AM Response to Reply #33 |
81. Sure he is, and, btw, you're not careful about any of this. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:03 PM Response to Reply #35 |
101. Because you frighten some. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:05 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. That would require referring to other threads, which I don't think |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:19 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Show me a thread where I've ever been against vaccines in general. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:21 PM Response to Reply #23 |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:24 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. I have no "moniker" on this site except for this one. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:25 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. . |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:35 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. I haven't posted a single thread about vaccines in months. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 02:31 AM Response to Reply #84 |
87. I have no other identity or moniker on this board, as you know. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 09:55 AM Response to Reply #87 |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:13 PM Response to Reply #87 |
117. In other words, you deny reality. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:54 PM Response to Reply #11 |
50. I have seen no evidence that demonstrates the dangers in any |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:09 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Well. my concern is not about vaccinations overall, but some vaccines and some ingredients. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:45 PM Response to Reply #50 |
61. You've never seen any evidence of any dangers in any vaccine? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
6. I have often wondered the same thing. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. I think it may have something to do with the perceived anti-vax website enemy? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. LOL!!! n/t |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:17 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. I love to see anti-vaxxers talk to themselves!!!! |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:48 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. MzMolly must have. You know her -- our other personality? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:14 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. Poor HuckleB |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:19 PM Response to Reply #47 |
105. Hey, I missed it. What'd we do now? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:37 PM Response to Reply #43 |
57. "medication could possibly be in order"? Well, isn't that civil and helpful in promoting rational |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 09:59 PM Response to Reply #57 |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:39 AM Response to Reply #57 |
78. It appears that this individual has gone a bit too far, as usual. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 02:38 AM Response to Reply #57 |
88. Don't you think such a response is justified when the person |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 09:56 AM Response to Reply #88 |
93. The accusations are founded. If they weren't you wouldn't have bothered trying to cover it up. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:32 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. You keep proving the OP's point with every post! Thanks....nt |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:57 PM Response to Reply #94 |
109. Technically that's another red herring, but it's not even worth referring to it as such. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 06:18 PM Response to Reply #109 |
113. OP = original post. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 09:23 PM Response to Reply #113 |
115. Yes, it does. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:15 PM Response to Reply #109 |
119. Keep up the good work! |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 10:14 AM Response to Reply #119 |
121. That's quite a fantasy. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:42 PM Response to Reply #20 |
44. Knock yourself out. n/t |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:44 AM Response to Reply #44 |
83. I'll just sit back and watch, thank you very much. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
102. Exactly. Imagine if Texas had mandated the Gardasil vaccine for grown |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #102 |
107. Yep. They would never even try that one. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:30 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. "Free Viagra trial with Gardasil jab!" |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:33 AM Response to Original message |
90. I LOVE THIS ENTIRE THREAD! |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 09:15 PM Response to Reply #90 |
114. "This entire thread clearly PROVES the exact point of the original post." |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 01:08 AM Response to Original message |
120. Some people have bad reactions to vaccines... |
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astral (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
122. Do we already know the answers to the first 5 questions is YES? |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
123. The swine flu vaccine. |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
124. Yes. But they aren't the cause of autism. |
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