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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 12:31 PM Original message |
Doctors puzzled over (very) bizarre infection surfacing in South Texas |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
1. OMG I don't watch horror shows because |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
2. Is this a JOKE? |
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Rainscents (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 12:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. No, it's not a joke! |
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gristy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 01:03 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. So maybe it's an old joke? |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 04:27 PM Response to Reply #11 |
41. It got so bad, the guy committed suicide. Do you still think it's funny? |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
3. TX, CA, and FL-all on the coast. This is the first I've heard of |
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grytpype (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
4. I have weird black fibers growing out of my head.. |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 12:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Yes, and I have a few |
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bullimiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 01:16 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. i used to have more of those fibers growing from my head :). all kidding |
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slor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 01:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. LOL... |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 01:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
26. mine are slowly turning grey.... |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
5. Damn.. |
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jokerman93 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 05:33 PM Response to Reply #5 |
51. mmm, you may be onto something there n/t |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
6. K & R. |
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Minnesota Libra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
9. I hope this is someone's idea of a really bad joke. If not............. |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 01:40 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. It's a form of hysteria. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 03:14 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. Actually, Morgellons and delusional parasitosis seem to be different |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 05:26 PM Response to Reply #32 |
49. Morgellons at least sounds like a hysterical condition |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 05:31 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. If there's actual physical evidence (fibers), wouldn't that rule out |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 05:48 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. If you google "Morgellons" and look at the photos |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 05:52 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. I'm assuming that doctors have actually observed the fibers in the skin. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 08:38 PM Response to Reply #55 |
71. no one has EVER observed these fibers or the insects that... |
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AlienGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 08:45 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Wigs exist, so all hair must be wigs |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 01:33 AM Response to Reply #71 |
111. Hey, maybe it IS all B.S. but it seems to have more to it... |
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harpboy_ak (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 02:48 AM Response to Reply #53 |
112. You obviously know nothing about Lyme Disease |
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preciousdove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 04:04 AM Response to Reply #112 |
114. Close |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 11:04 AM Response to Reply #53 |
122. fibers emerging from skin: |
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AlienGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 05:58 PM Response to Reply #49 |
57. Does it respond to psychiatric treatment? |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 08:37 PM Response to Reply #57 |
70. If it is hysterical, the recommended intervention would involve |
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AlienGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 08:39 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. So fibromyalgia is a hysterical illness too? |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 09:02 PM Response to Reply #73 |
81. In many cases, probably. |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 09:18 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. alien girl, so you know where this person is coming from |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 09:41 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. Please don't talk about me in the third person. |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 10:00 PM Response to Reply #91 |
95. hysteria is not a diagnosis |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 10:58 PM Response to Reply #95 |
101. Of course check the physical first. |
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preciousdove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 05:23 AM Response to Reply #95 |
117. Lyme can be treated later |
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preciousdove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 05:39 AM Response to Reply #91 |
118. When did medicine become so adversarial? |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 03:37 AM Response to Reply #81 |
113. Recommended reading: "Fibromyalgia & Chronic Myofascial Pain"... |
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preciousdove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 05:09 AM Response to Reply #70 |
116. A Few Case Histories |
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preciousdove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 04:24 AM Response to Reply #49 |
115. Wrong. Lyme Disease is grossly under diagnosed |
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genieroze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
10. What kind of infection? Viral, bacterial, fungal. It seems world wide |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
12. Morgellon's foundation: cases in all 50 states |
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bullimiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
13. holy crap. i never saw this before. |
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wiley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
16. Try this. Sounds like an untreated insect infestation |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 08:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
76. Toxoplasma gondii is a microscopic protozoan parasite with a well- |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 09:16 PM Response to Reply #76 |
84. I've tried to tell folks in this thread that I've personally worked... |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 09:37 PM Response to Reply #84 |
90. I know the type of people. I have had many clients over the years who |
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wiley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 12:05 AM Response to Reply #76 |
107. My point is that diagnostic tests can rule out just about everything |
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sunniluna (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
17. i will simply ignore this |
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LynzM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
18. Totally creepy.... |
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The Sushi Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
19. I have weird fibers growing out of the Palm of my Hand! |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 01:56 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. How's your eyesight? n/t |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 04:48 PM Response to Reply #19 |
46. Tell Rosy Palm she needs electrolysis. n/t |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
20. Delusional parasitosis |
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TexasLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 02:44 PM Response to Reply #20 |
30. yeah, but do delusions have colors and stick out of |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 05:51 PM Response to Reply #30 |
54. Do you have a picture of the fibers coming out? nt |
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AlienGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 06:01 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. Here are pictures of fibers protruding from (through?) skin |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 04:25 PM Response to Reply #20 |
40. And do these delusions include lesions and actual growths.... |
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Oversea Visitor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
22. Hmm |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
23. Note that Ginger Savely is a principal of this Morgellon... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 07:37 PM Response to Reply #23 |
61. The Morgellon's org web site said they just borrowed the |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 08:28 PM Response to Reply #23 |
68. Are we supposed to know who Ginger Savely is? Who is that? |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 09:02 PM Response to Reply #68 |
80. You would if you read the article, or the OP. She's... |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
24. delusional parasitosis is WELL known among entomologists.... |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 02:25 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. So, what is pictured in the electromicrographs on the Morgellons org site? |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 08:02 PM Response to Reply #29 |
62. couple things of note.... |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 09:37 PM Response to Reply #62 |
89. Thanks for the follow-up. Great info. I was wondering about Munchausens. |
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AlienGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 09:45 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. Or, for that matter, a neurological or autoimmune disorder |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 10:12 PM Response to Reply #92 |
98. AG, the parasite bit comes from the patients themselves.... |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 11:19 PM Response to Reply #98 |
102. Thank you for highlighting this: |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 10:04 PM Response to Reply #89 |
97. I think it's a possibility... |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 04:06 PM Response to Reply #24 |
36. As a fellow entomologist, I concur |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 04:30 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Sounds to me like you need quite bit of real-world experience... |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 08:23 PM Response to Reply #42 |
66. I am talking about the delusions, not about this case |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 11:21 PM Response to Reply #66 |
103. One issue, though, is the sensation some of the people in these cases |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 11:44 PM Response to Reply #42 |
106. with respect-- simple scratching and irritating does.... |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 08:58 PM Response to Reply #24 |
79. Thank you for your intelligent, informative posts on this nonsense. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 11:36 PM Response to Reply #24 |
105. I just had a terrible thought |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
27. This is nothing to laugh at! |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 09:50 PM Response to Reply #27 |
93. I'm not a doctor or anything but |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 12:13 AM Response to Reply #93 |
109. I'll say |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
28. On the migration of foreign bodies which have been ingested... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 02:56 PM Response to Reply #28 |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 04:22 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. Looks like microfibers. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 04:35 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. The interesting thing about this is it's coming out via the skin... |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 05:04 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Why won't the body recognize these as foreign bodies? |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 05:15 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Possibly. However, there isn't enough information to tell. There's... |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 05:54 PM Response to Reply #43 |
56. but is it really? |
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AlienGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 06:06 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. I tend to doubt diagnoses of hysteria |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 09:16 PM Response to Reply #59 |
85. I agree with you that |
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blonndee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 09:21 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Isn't it possible that the "recognized symptom set" |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 10:33 PM Response to Reply #88 |
100. I think that's the problem, |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
33. At the Science Update link at the website |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 04:36 PM Response to Reply #33 |
44. I don't think the letter debunks the condition. I think that it is.... |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 09:31 AM Response to Reply #44 |
119. I'm not saying that the letter debunks the condition |
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DBoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
34. It is a sign of the Second Coming |
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Lisa0825 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
35. This was on local news in Houston recently. |
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TexasLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
37. pictures on morgellons.org |
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AlienGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 04:21 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Cellulose?! |
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Sufi Marmot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 08:23 PM Response to Reply #37 |
65. How do they know the fibers are not textile derived? |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 12:19 AM Response to Reply #65 |
110. all plant derived clothing fibers, e.g. cotton, are cellulose.... |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
45. Anyone familiar with the "gray goo" theory on fear about nanomachines? |
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jokerman93 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
52. At first |
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RadiDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
60. I just lost a lot of faith and respect for morgellons.org |
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woodsprite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 08:15 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Let's see - Jebby runs Florida. Isn't there a big, high level (3 or 4) |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 08:23 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. I've lost respect for a number of DUers reading this thread.... |
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pauliedangerously (843 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 11:33 PM Response to Reply #64 |
104. Thanks for the first-hand knowledge, Mike!! |
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Wrinkle_In_Time (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 10:26 AM Response to Reply #64 |
121. I also want to thank you for your rational and knowledgeable... |
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TexasLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 08:38 PM Response to Reply #60 |
72. They are tryng to get federal attention to the problem |
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
67. website of a sufferer with many images |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 08:36 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. OMG those are pictures of some crazy things, or appear to be anyway... |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 09:06 PM Response to Reply #69 |
83. If I found that in a skin scraping, I would call it AMORPHOUS DEBRIS. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 09:17 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. see the response below-- I actually identified most of the stuff... |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 10:22 PM Response to Reply #69 |
99. that's a piece of cuticle from the underside of a decomposing leaf.... |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 08:57 PM Response to Reply #67 |
77. the epidermal peels look like normal peels from irritated skin... |
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In_The_Wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
75. It looks like Morgellons Disease is in the warm coastal states. |
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AlienGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
78. If it's delusional, what was his mother pulling on? |
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jarab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 09:04 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. You're good, Tucker! |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 09:51 PM Response to Reply #78 |
94. Shared delusion = "follie a deux" (a well known psychiatric condition) |
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TexasLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 10:03 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. I think your DU name |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
108. I read this article earlier today and it is very frightening! |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
120. Dr. George Schwartz of New Mexico |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
123. I don't know whether to call |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
124. They have done a lot of bioterrism agent research on prisioners in Texas |
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schrodingers_cat (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-23-06 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
125. I pulled a thin fiber from my husbands foot... |
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