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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 06:38 AM Original message |
AP IMPACT: Zicam Not Alone in Side Effect Reports. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 07:16 AM Response to Original message |
1. "Complaints ranged from vomiting to attempted suicide. . ." Same effect as reading the Free Republic |
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get the red out (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 07:25 AM Response to Original message |
2. Great, now the supplement police |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 07:38 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Obama's comin' to take yer spells and potions! n/t |
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get the red out (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 08:07 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Spells and potions? |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 08:48 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Have a problem with reality? |
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get the red out (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 08:58 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Oh, you have a big problem with freedom |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 09:19 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. People have the freedom to choose. Duh. |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-19-09 08:54 AM Response to Reply #10 |
51. Quit wasting your time |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-19-09 10:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
66. +About a Million |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 09:05 AM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Suppose, just for the moment, |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 09:50 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Thanks, trotsky. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 09:54 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. I'm very sorry for your daughter. |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 10:00 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Thanks; I surely hope it can be reversed. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 04:31 PM Response to Reply #20 |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-19-09 10:52 PM Response to Reply #12 |
67. HI! Thought you might be interested, esp. last line of first post:: |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
3. Article is wrong. The drugs in homeopathy aren't present AT ALL. |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 07:50 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. You assume: |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 08:47 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Considering that "homeopathic" means an ingredient that is not there... |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 08:56 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. It appears to be that |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 09:21 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. THAT article is wrong. That is NOT what homeopathic reads. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 10:26 PM Response to Reply #9 |
38. Some confusion. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 09:03 AM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Yeah, I was confused at first too. |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
13. There is such a thing as placebo side effects as well |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 09:31 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Oh, the person who signed up just yesterday... |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 09:34 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. eh, I'd love to see the short sales |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 09:56 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Is there even evidence that they happened? |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 10:02 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. This has been going on for years! |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-19-09 08:05 AM Response to Reply #23 |
49. uh, insiders at the FDA, and anyone they chose to tell n/t |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-19-09 08:10 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Well, and I tipped everyone off 2 and a half years ago. |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-19-09 09:42 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. for insider trading |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-19-09 09:47 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Ah yes, the timing of knowing something that was already known a few years ago. |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-19-09 10:56 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. no the timing of the FDA decision n/t |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-19-09 10:59 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Sure, to announce something that was known years ago. |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-19-09 03:13 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Matrixx slides 68% after FDA warning on Zicam |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-19-09 04:12 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. That's the price you pay for making a product that was known YEARS AGO... |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-19-09 05:15 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Good work, trotsky! |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-19-09 06:07 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Wow, WHAT MISUNDERSTANDING |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-19-09 06:14 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. 'Get educated' assumes that people don't know these facts. |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-19-09 06:35 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. since you all knew so much |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-19-09 08:03 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Right, try to understand. |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-19-09 06:14 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. what excuses? |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-19-09 06:16 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Then write to the SEC about it. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-20-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #61 |
69. I'm just laughing here. |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 10:20 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. I have to admit this |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 09:45 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. There is no 'science' on loss of smell being result of using product, |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 10:04 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. all kinds of things are getting conflated here |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 10:26 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. However it happened, 'they' wanted it and got it. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 10:31 PM Response to Reply #26 |
39. We certainly hope not. |
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semillama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 10:27 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. The media is often guilty of conflating "homeopathy" with all alternative remedies |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
28. Was it the zinc? |
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LaurenG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. It was the zinc. |
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LaurenG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
29. Zicam is not a homeopathic remedy |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 02:51 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Yup, the term is misused CONSTANTLY. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 05:03 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Thank you! |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 08:57 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Thanks, LaurenG. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 10:02 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. The regulation issue |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 11:05 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Understand, Why Syzygy, and please don't 'suppose' what I want. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 11:15 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. So you ARE |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 11:34 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. I am a retired Federal regulator; |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 11:41 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Yet |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 11:57 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. 'Discoverable' |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-19-09 12:22 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Ellen.. |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-19-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Sure have used google to discover that there have been suits. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-19-09 12:44 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. "Zicam" would be the appropriate search term to begin with. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-19-09 06:52 AM Response to Reply #41 |
48. Whoa. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
35. Stating the obvious perhaps, but one needs to be cautious before taking any pill/potion. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
36. Zicam is voluntarilly withdrawing it's product. |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-19-09 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
58. I have heard of manufacturers making non-dilute versions of homeopathic remedies and then selling |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-19-09 10:54 PM Response to Reply #58 |
68. May be. |
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