The Linus Pauling Institute.. micronutrients

[auntAgonist]

http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/


The Linus Pauling Institute's Micronutrient Information Center is a source for scientifically accurate information regarding the roles of vitamins, minerals, other nutrients, dietary phytochemicals (plant chemicals that may affect health), and some foods in preventing disease and promoting health. All of the nutrients and phytochemicals included in the Micronutrient Information Center may be obtained from the diet, but many are also available as dietary supplements.

Select a nutrient category on the left or search the Micronutrient Information Center for articles on individual nutrients, phytochemicals or foods.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

1. K&R. Good info -- thanks for posting.

[Trajan]

2. That is an awesome resource .... THANKS !

Very clearly laid out, and certainly chock full of the latest information ....

Again; Thanks for this data ...

[kimmerspixelated]

3. Great! Linus Pauling was the Doctor that promoted Vit C

as a cure for the Big C, right? I think he was the one that said in high doses it obliterates the bad cells. Vit C cures scurvy, but that is the only thing that mainstream medicine will admit to. They don't want to believe in real health it seems. It is so tragically sad.

[montanacowboy]

4. I have been a follower of Pauling's

for 30 years and have taken 10,000 mg of Vitamin C every single day and have never been sick or had any disease. I take no prescription medication at all, am a vegetarian. Pauling was a great thinker; I don't even tell my doctor what I take because he would flip out.

Vitamin C is a miracle drug and don't forget your aspirin to keep those arteries clean!!!

[newfie11]

10. I also have take 10 grams a day of vit. C for over 30 years.

I also have had no problems while those around me are sick. 40 years working in the medical field exposed me to all kinds of contagious illnesses.I told no doctor for years because i didn't want to hear their blabber about vit C not working. Things have slowly changed, my doctor now knows and while in shock there is little he can complain about, especially on cholesterol.I also take 6 grams lysine a day.

[Warpy]

5. Mainstream medicine has done the double blind studies

and shown that there is nothing to Vitamin C beyond curing scurvy and provoking a placebo response in susceptible people.

If it had turned out to do anything for cancer or the common cold, science would have admitted it.

There's big money in supplements. Check the price on that bottle the next time you pick one up. Nobody's giving the stuff away for free.

[Orrex]

7. But it's Linus Pauling! Pauling!

Surely he couldn't be wrong about anything?!?

[lizerdbits]

9. Didn't Pauling die of prostate cancer?

So that either doesn't work or he didn't follow his own advice.

[newfie11]

12. I don't know of any study saying vit c cures cancer.

[lizerdbits]

13. There isn't

but I believe he proposed it would.

[newfie11]

11. Paid for by who!! You think the pharmaceutical companies tell the truth!!

[cosmik debris]

14. The Mayo Clinic.

Studies in the 1970's and 1980's conducted by Linus Pauling and colleagues suggested that very large doses of vitamin C (10 grams/day intravenously for 10 days followed by at least 10 grams/day orally indefinitely) were helpful in increasing the survival time and improving the quality of life of terminal cancer patients. However, two randomized placebo-controlled studies conducted at the Mayo clinic found no differences in outcome between terminal cancer patients receiving 10 grams of vitamin C/day orally or placebo.

[Sanity Claws]

15. Terminal cancer patients?

It sounds to me like this study is of very limited use. Is there any study of illness or cancer rates among people who use Vitamin C in megadoses? Just because Vitamin C can't roll a boulder up Mount Everest doesn't mean it can't roll stones up hills.

[cosmik debris]

17. I'm just quoting the source used by the OP

http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/vitaminC/

I thought it was interesting to note that the Linus Pauling institute echos the recommended daily allowance provided by the U.S. government for prevention of disease. Then they uses some questionable studies to promote higher doses for other reasons.

It just proves that when you find your conclusion before you find your evidence, It is a lot easier to make an argument because you only have to look at the evidence that supports your conclusion.

[Sanity Claws]

21. I appreciate the post

My purpose was not to criticize you but to note the limited value of the study. I really would like to see more studies of vitamins and herbs. The conventional wisdom is that such studies are not done because vitamins and herbs are not patentable.
I have bookmarked the website and will read it more closely when I have time.

[cosmik debris]

23. conventional wisdom is not always wise

Another approach says that there is no reason for supplement manufacturers to fork up the money for randomized double blind studies when they can continue to sell laxatives for $80 a bottle without any proof of efficacy beyond the obvious.

If the studies were done, there is a good chance that they would prove that many of the products sold by the supplement industry are worthless. The big business in supplement sales discourages the actual pursuit of truth. When the truth surfaces, stuff like this happens:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/28/health/28cold.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

[TZ]

27. There have been oodles of studies on herbs and vitamins

With mixed results. Flaxseeds good for cancer prevention, shark cartiledge useless. Ginko is not useful, St. Johns wart is not effective but echinacea works...Go to any site like NIH, Johns Hopkins etc. Even pharma companies do some studies in this field.
Vitamins are VERY well studied.

[Celebration]

18. and these two things are comparable .... how?

Does what Pauling proposed sound exactly like the study that was conducted? Can you read carefully and see a difference?

[cosmik debris]

20. I'm just quoting the source used by the OP

If you have a problem with that source, take it up with the OP.

[Celebration]

19. Re-Assessment Urged for Intravenous Vitamin C and Cancer

http://www.medpagetoday.com/HematologyOncology/OtherCancers/tb/2938

For years high-dose vitamin C as a treatment for cancer was banished to the category of alternative therapy, after clinical trials of oral vitamin C showed no benefit.


But the three case studies, as well as new pharmacological evidence, suggest that the role of high-dose vitamin C administered intravenously should be re-assessed, according to Sebastian Padayatty, M.D., of the National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases here.


The three case reports increase the "clinical plausibility" that vitamin C may have a benefit, Dr. Padayatty and colleagues wrote in the March 28 issue of the Canadian Medical Association Journal.


It is now known, they said, that high-dose intravenous -- but not oral -- vitamin C therapy results in plasma concentrations of about 14,000 micromole per liter. Oral doses result in plasma concentrations of at best 220 micromole per liter

[Celebration]

16. Vitamin C and Vitamin C

It was mineral ascorbates that Pauling used. It's ascorbic acid that the studies use.

Apples.................................................................................Oranges

[Sanity Claws]

22. Can you explain the difference?

I'm familiar with ascorbic acid and thought that was just another name for Vitamin C. What are mineral ascorbates and why did someone consider a test of them to be a test of Vitamin C?

[Celebration]

24. both are vitamin C--they are in different chemical forms n/t

[Warpy]

25. Not after your digestive system gets though with it.

Check it out.

[Orrex]

6. When's he going to get rid of that stupid blanket?

[auntAgonist]

8. ...

:rofl:

[Tumbulu]

26. Thanks for the post

great site.