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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:14 PM
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Autism, Gold Salts Mercury
This article by Dan Olmsted may have escaped your attention--love his autism series......

http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/index.php?feed=Science&article=UPI-1-20051230-13323400-bc-ageofautism.xml

Neither the causes of the disorders nor the mechanism of gold is known, yet there are reports pointing to a possible involvement of naturally-occurring gold in the nervous and glandular systems, and evidence from historical sources of a possible efficacy of gold in therapy for neurological disorders," write authors Douglas G. Richards, David L. McMillin, Eric A. Mein and Carl D. Nelson.

The paper, which we've alluded to before, is getting renewed attention among activists who believe that most cases of autism are caused by a mercury preservative used in childhood immunizations. While medical groups and federal health authorities discount any link, these researchers and parents say a huge rise in autism diagnoses beginning in the 1990s can be tied to the increasing number of vaccines containing the preservative, called thimerosal, which is about 50 percent ethyl mercury by weight.

The earliest year for which we could find evidence of thimerosal being used in vaccines was 1931. In August, Age of Autism reported that the first child ever diagnosed with autism -- Donald T., who was born in 1933 in Mississippi -- was treated with gold salts for an acute attack of juvenile rheumatoid arthritis at age 12. His autism symptoms also showed significant improvement following the two-to-three-month gold-salts treatment at a clinic in Memphis, according to his brother, who we interviewed in the small Mississippi town where both still live.

That caught the attention of Boyd Haley, a chemistry professor at the University of Kentucky and a leading proponent of the mercury-autism theory. In our last column we reported the results of a test he conducted to see whether gold salts would pull mercury off a chemical compound.


This goes on to talk about the possibility of gold salts being tested in autistic kids that also have arthritis, etc. Pretty interesting.

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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:17 PM
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1. I wonder if a gold filling
Provides enough ambient "gold" in the body for this, or if Au must
be introduced otherwise.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:49 PM
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5. Nope.
Gold salts are very different from metallic gold. Metallic gold is nearly inert.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 06:03 PM
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7. That said
A gold filling surely ensures that with every bite of food
goes down a few gold mollecules.

I'm happier with my gold filling than with my amalgum ones.
If i could afford it, i would replace them all, tomorrow, with gold.

THe long term effects of modern dentristy will only be known by archeologists,
not dentists.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 06:06 PM
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8. Is there a natural dietary source of gold salts? Dandelions?
During the gold rush, people used to pan for gold in California,
would California spring water contain gold salts?
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 12:15 AM
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14. gold crowns in teeth are an alloy- not pure gold
and many of the metals used in such alloys are toxic and commonly cause immune reactivity(such as palladium)

a high percentage of people are immune reactive to mercury and nickel (both used extensively in dental fillings)
and both of these are documented to be major factors in autoimmune conditions like MS, Lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, etc.
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~berniew1/indexa.html

but many are also immune reactive to gold and gold can cause autoimmune conditions www.melisa.org


but gold absorbs mercury and forms an alloy(mercury is actually used in mining gold)
and there are galvanic currents in the mouth of those with mercury dental fillings and "gold" crowns
with the mercury moving from the dental amalgam to the gold crown(and into the body)
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~berniew1/galv.html

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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 09:39 PM
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16. vaccine/mercury connection to autism & ADHD: Haley is cited along
with several hundred other peer-reviewed studies and Gov't studies
Autism
http://www.flcv.com/kidshg.html
ADHD
http://www.flcv.com/tmlbn.html

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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:29 PM
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2. There's a genetic component
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:49 PM
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4. Thalidomide
I almost didn't read the whole article, this was near the end:

"This research effort came about as the result of research into Autistic-like characteristics of children born to mothers who had taken the drug Thalidomide. Researchers found that some children in this category were Autistic and also had the typical physical and mental characteristics of Thalidomide babies, misshapen ears and nerve malformations in the face and neck. In looking at these children, the gene HOXA1 was found, and researchers then tested Autistic children for this gene. This gene, located on chromosome 7, is involved in the earliest stages of neurodevelopment in the embryo, but is inactive later in development."
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:50 PM
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6. When they find a gene, they need to tie it to an enzyme or a protein
Edited on Sun Jan-08-06 06:02 PM by 4MoronicYears
that is affected by the gene. Then they need to know what that enzyme or protein does. If it is involved in the production of say, metallotionein, then the results may be an inability to clear heavy metals. This can result in the uptake of mercury, lead, cadmium etc, instead of zinc, calcium (looks like lead to the body) and other nutrients essential to proper nervous system development. Many of these enzymatic pathways can be positively affected with individualized nutritional therapies. Prove me wrong.

On Edit: www.HRIPTC.org
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 08:33 PM
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11. I'm not trying to "prove"
anyone right or wrong.

Just providing information.

I also saw this, that there seems to be a male bias.

http://www.cureautismnow.org/home/article/science/4367.jsp

This site has links to research in all areas, and is looking for families to participate in studies.


I'm thinking that at most there MAY be some sort of susceptibility - like an allergic reaction - some kids have a bad reaction, most don't.

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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 09:20 PM
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13. I thought twice about saying that.... wish I had left it out, it was a
reaction to all the slams one gets for mentioning what appears to be radical takes on this sort of issue.... consider it edited out even though it isn't. As far as the allergy component goes.... this is what the NIH says about the major histocompatibility complex and autism.

1: Front Biosci. 2001 Aug 1;6:D936-43. Related Articles, Links


The association of MHC genes with autism.

Torres AR, Maciulis A, Odell D.

Center for Persons with Disabilities and Biology Dept., Utah State University, Logan, Utah 84322-6895, USA. rtorres@cpd2.usu.edu

Several immune abnormalities have been noted in autistic subjects. These associations have been extended to the Major Histocompatibility Complex (MHC), a section of DNA remarkable for the number of encoded proteins with immunological functions. The strongest MHC association identified thus far is for the null allele of C4B in the class III region. The complex allelic composition of C4 as determined by immunoelectrophoresis is discussed. Low levels of C4 resulting from the null allele may be important in disease pathogenesis especially since C4 has been identified in developing brain neurons. The DNA region just telomeric to C4 has several genes including tumor necrosis factor which encode proteins with immunological functions. These proteins may act in concert with C4 in disease contribution and the genes should be more closely examined.

Publication Types:
Review

PMID: 11487481


http://www.autismwebsite.com/ari/dan/scientificfoundations.htm
Scientific Foundations of a DAN! Protocol
Teresa Binstock

Researcher in Developmental & Behavioral Neuroanatomy
binstock@peakpeak.com
P.O. Box 1788 Estes Park, CO 80517

View Teresa Binstock's mini-DAN! Power Point presentation (Nov. 2004) - Auburn, Alabama.

Controversies: thimerosal and MMR – cites 1-36

Intestinal Pathologies – cites 37-65

vMV in PBMCs, as variant SSPE – cites 66-72

MMR: MV antibodies in autism– cites 73-77

vMV, MV impair immunity – cites 78-83

MV & Vitamin A – cites 84-97

Vitamin A & IgA, sIgA – cites 88b-88h

Autism, malnutrition, flora – cites 98-106

Gastrointestinal miscellany – cites 107-112

Glutathione – cites 113-125

Tylenol depletes GSH – cites 126-129

GSH & thimerosal – cites 130-134

Chorioamnionitis, fetal, placental – cites 135-142

Colic, cow’s milk allergy in breast fed infants – cites 143-149

Chronic Diarrhea of Infancy – cites 150-153

Recurrent otitis & GSH– cites 154-160

Gluten hypersensitivity, bacteria – cites 161-171

Gluten neuropathologies – cites 172-176

Gluten immunologics, ataxia – cites 177-181

Chelation – cites 182-194

Viruses – cites 195-203

Probiotics – cites 204-213

Immune impairments in autism– cites 214-223

Methylcobalamin (mB12) – cites 224-239

Nutritional Therapy & Violent Behavior -- cite 240

Epileptiform pattern in autism – cites 241-246

Amino acids & epileptiform activity – cites 247- 253

Autism Treatment Evaluation Checklist (ATEC) - cite 254

New Autism Epidemiology Study - whole article free online – cite 255

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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:49 PM
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3. Thank you mzteris and itsjustme for these articles.
Edited on Sun Jan-08-06 05:50 PM by Ilsa
My son is autistic (and ADHD and OCD, etc) and it's been difficult trying to figure out what might be done for him.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 06:26 PM
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9. I was diagnosed with a lot of ADD, dyslexia etc, & actually have Aspergers
syndrome.. meditation has proved to be the best treatment
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 07:16 PM
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10. What kind of meditation?
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 12:36 PM
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15. There is no medication, but by learning to meditate one gains 'Control'
over what the Buddhists call the 'Monkey Mind'.. to aspect of the mind that jumps form one subject to the other..

meditation is method of 'Training' the mind, it isn't a religious practice.

I think there is no magic pill, just hard work and determination. Diet has some effect, sugar is like a drug to me, i avoid it.

Under no circumstances ever take Strattera.. it is a fraud, a failed anti depressant they tweaked the math on an turned it into a ADD drug.. it is in the same group of drugs known to cause suicide in youth and older patients.

google .. 'strattera failed antidepressant' there is an article about it, my computer crashed and i lost all my research..

i had a bad experience with strattera, i now understand why people commit suicide on stuff like that, it is very insidious, it is a hallucination.. you cant tell the difference from reality.. i began to live in a fantasy world, especially when i woke up in the morning,, a world where every body was dead, my death was eminent.. i began to make plans of where to go when everyone i knew was dead, the world was dark and dank, my plans melted because there was use in going anywhere else, it was only worse anywhere else... i that was about 6 months ago, i feel 'Scared' from that experience.. i will never be the same.. my 'mental condition' is much worse than before.. before i was just disorganized but happy.

i have an IQ of 164, but am functionally illiterate, i have done biological research and worked for boeing building circuit boards for the F22 and the Delta3 rocket. i did 2.3 times more work than anyone else, 4x more than some and never made even a minor SQK..which is an error like leaving solder flux behind a soldered lead or a solder peak.. just minor thigs..others were allowed 100 or more a month.

there are some good tapes and books out there by Pema Chodron, a Tibetan Nun. the tape set that helped me most was 'When Things Fall Apart' she has another good book, 'starting from where you are'..get them..!!

people with aspergers have very acute ability to focus once they get their mind developed, i did that through learning to play a musical instrument in Band and repetitious exercise.. track and bicycle racing my focus on art and creating things form a drawing.. i am a mechanical savant.

art, music, repetitious exercise and meditation will actually physically restructure the brain.. i use this to work with juvenile delinquents and got miraculous results.. it is a method where they cure themselves doing the simplest things.. it must be done an a regular daily basis.. best done at the same time every day.. there is a good meditation training at http://www.buddhanet.net and there are some audio teaching in their Buddhanet Audio section lower left home page. jack kornfiels and sharon salzeburg are really great, also robert thurman..

feel free to PM me any time





I have worked very hard all my life overcoming my disabilities.. i took seminars and ended up giving them..

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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 09:49 PM
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17. thanks - there are a wide variety of meditation
What kind of seminars have you given?
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 08:37 PM
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12. My aunt
had "gold treatments" 30 some-odd years ago for her Rheumatoid arthritis - they seemed to help "some" - but she also developed cancer 5-10 years later - that they thought (at the time) *might* be related to the gold treatments. I don't know if it was or not. I didn't know they were still using gold treatments.

Also, found this item on other "treatments". Just be careful.

http://autismdiva.blogspot.com/2005/10/time-to-debunk-mercury-myths.html
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