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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:13 PM
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Poll question: Fact or Fiction - the ooze from inside blisters caused by poison oak/ivy/sumac spreads the rash
I'm getting mixed results. Any insight?

:shrug:
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:18 PM
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1. No - although it may seem that way since the rash can develop at different
rates on different parts of the skin...

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000027.htm
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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:23 PM
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9. Yay!
Great! I read this earlier somewhere else and had doubts. I'm 40 something and always thought otherwise. My friends/acquaintances also thought otherwise... and were wary coming near me. :rofl:

Thanks!
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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:18 PM
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2. Hehe- umm.. STILL getting mixed results
:rofl:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:18 PM
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3. I say false. I believe it's spread through the oil of the plant. The fact that
it spreads from the affected area is because that's where the oil is...which is why it's the affected area...
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:20 PM
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4.  false
Edited on Tue Jun-28-11 06:21 PM by Viva_La_Revolution
clean the area with rubbing alcohol to get rid of all the oils from the plant (within 15 minutes, cause it binds to the skin). The blisters are a reaction, not a cause.
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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:30 PM
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15. "binds to the skin" I'll read up a little
Thanks

:)
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:20 PM
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5. False. Also unlikely..., getting it from your dog.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:23 PM
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8. you CAN get it from your dog!
If he's been running around in a patch and comes in with the oil on his coat.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:25 PM
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11. Unlikely.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:29 PM
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14. The poison ivy site thinks you can get it from your dog, from tools used
last year, from old clothes.

http://poison-ivy.org/html/faq.htm
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:21 PM
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6. from my own experience, it seems like where ever one body part
that has the rash touches another body part then that body part then gets the rash...does not seem to matter whether or not the blisters are oozing.

the best, cheapest rememdy I have found is too scrub the blisters with a loofah, soap and water.

then apply a combination of

vinegar and salt.

over that apply baking soda.

this helped me.

good luck.

:hi:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:23 PM
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7. That sounds incredibly, stingingly painful. I guess it makes you forget to itch.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:25 PM
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10. actually, no. bleach stung much worse. there is slight stinging involved
with the vinegar, not bad however and the baking soda immediately calms it.

I think bleach may kill the plant but, it has been my experience that bleach will not kill it on my body.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:33 PM
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16. Sometimes there's a case to be made for NOT trying home remedies.
They do make OTC stuff for poison ivy, you know. You don't have to experiment with whatever's in your pantry, or garage. :yoiks:
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 07:56 AM
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35. the OTC stuff was NOT working. tyvm. nt
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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:28 PM
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13. That's been my experience as well
I never was allergic to it until about 2 years ago when I HAD to have got it between my fingers from petting dog. Hec, I used to cut through the stuff with chainsaw cutting wood for house and get covered in the saps. Go figger.

Again.. between fingers, this time from fishing.

I have been avoiding water thinking it would spread more. :banghead:

You live: you learn ;)

:hi:
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:34 PM
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17. I got allergic about 10 years ago. Never was as a child and so I am
still not used to being aware of it. dumbass, I am.

always caught in the woods in shorts and fip-flops to look down and see myself in a huge patch of the stuff!

got it twice already this year. sheesh.

I would imagine that it must be hard keeping that baking soda paste on between the fingers.

I live but, will I ever learn ;)

:pals:


heh. they moved the thread on me :D
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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:38 PM
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20. Whoa! I've never been moved to Health
hehe. I thought I'd share my findings in General over the Lounge thinking it may be moved there.

I wanted folks to know what I read hehe. I have yet to have anyone think the jizz wasn't contagious and I ran a register at a 2 day yard sale covered in calamine lotion :rofl:

I'll try the baking soda paste next time I'm stupid :P

:pals:
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:49 PM
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25. calamine lotion gives relief but it does not dry it up like the
vinegar, salt and baking soda paste.

this time it worked overnight for me.

good luck.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 12:58 AM
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32. Me too - I was 'immune' for years and revelled in my power to traipse through anything.
But then last year I pushed the Poison Oak Gods too far - looking back, I agree that crawling through a few hundred yards of PO-infested chaparral was an excess of hubris - and they revoked my immunity. Now I'm like a babe in the woods, never checking for the stuff until one step too late... :(
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:27 PM
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12. Here's a nice poison ivy site, with lots of info, And, they think you can get if from your dog.
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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:34 PM
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18. "Some people appear to be immune, others become immune. HOWEVER,..."
you can gain or lose immunity, so to assume you can't get it if you never have before is foolish. People change as they age. I would never assume that I was immune at any time no matter what my past experience was."

That explains a lot :)

Thanks

:hi:
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 07:42 PM
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28. Many years ago I was clearing around some pine trees, chopped near the
roots of some vines going up the tree, then gave a big yank. The vine structure came down upon me.

It has always been my custom to do yard work wearing shorts and sneakers, without shirt.

Until then, I did not know what poison ivy looked like. After healing, I never made that error again.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:35 PM
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19. Haven't had poison Ivy since I was 13.
But I know that if you have it on your hands it will sprad to whatever you touch.
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haikugal Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:39 PM
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21. Tecnu works great for all kinds of plant toxins....
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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:42 PM
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23. I ended up buying some of that
I got tired of getting calimine lotion ALL over everything.

Now that I understand the science of it I guess it worked. At the time, I could tell no difference.

:hi:
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haikugal Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:44 PM
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24. It's really good stuff
My ex was horribly allergic to poison ivy and would get huge blisters the size of silver dollars....he would wash with Tecnu and never had a problem after that...we live in the country so it was awesome to find a solution for him, I'm not allergic to it.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 08:48 PM
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30. Never heard of it. Where do you get it? n/t
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 06:51 AM
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33. Our local Food co-op sells it. It does work, just make sure to follow the directions! n.t
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 08:55 AM
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34. Thanks, I'll keep an eye out for it. n/t
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PoliticAverse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:42 PM
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22. If you do get poison Ivy...
Zanfel is an amazing invention.
http://www.zanfel.com/help/
It instantly removed the itching when I used it.
A bit pricey however.


Also everything I ever read indicated that the ooze doesn't contain the oils that
cause the allergic reaction.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:53 PM
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26. Here's a tip for you.... do not ever, for any reason, think that it is a good idea to burn
poison ivy vines/leaves and stand near it. You can get it inside your lungs, that is what I have been told. Others may know otherwise but I wouldn't want to find out the hard way.
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 07:31 PM
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27. you can get it from touching your pets coats, you can get it from smoke

from burning poison ivy/oak

once you have it, it can go inside your body and come out other places on your skin

been there, done that
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 07:44 PM
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29. My Dad got it from the smoke from burning it, too.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 10:44 PM
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31. Poison ivy rash spreads two ways 1. by spreading the oil around yourself,
say by rubbing the sweat from your face (ouchy!)

2. For some people, at a certain point, the immune system goes into overdrive and the rash just keeps spreading -

think hay fever and asthma, only this time it's the skin surface that reacts. That's a good time to call a doctor - you may need some steroids to break the cycle.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 11:15 AM
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36. False. Though if you get a skin infection on top of the poisonwhatever, you can spread it by
scratching at your skin. Impetigo on top of poisonwhatever rash is quite easy to spread.
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astral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:56 AM
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37. Having got into poison oak once makes me an expert ; )
I was told when it happened, that I would experience a hard time getting rid of it, it could take weeks, and that it can pop up in other places than where I was exposed. This was all true. I do not know the medical explanation for it, but I am sure it spread from travel under the skin or in the bloodstream or something.

But then again, can you make it worse by scratching, as well? I am sure the answer is 'yes.'

I don't live around poison oak anymore so I didn't have to continue educating myself about it. I am a LITTLE prone to hay fever, as was mentioned in another reply here some people may have more of a reaction than others.
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