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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 12:16 PM Original message |
Fear and Its Consequences: Why States Should Get Tough with Vaccinations |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
1. indeed. nt |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
2. Because Greedpig Pharma Needs More Money |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Can you support your assertion with factual evidence? |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 12:45 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. You Don't Follow The News? |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 12:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Considering thermerisol was taken out of vaccines in 1999... |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 12:56 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Thimerosal was taken out of "some" vaccines |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 01:05 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. FORMOST AUTHORITY? That is pretty freakin' hilarious, BUT... |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 01:09 PM Response to Reply #24 |
38. Written by a doctor |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #24 |
42. Seriously, a homeopathic website is your source? |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 01:27 PM Response to Reply #24 |
45. Mercola the foremost authority? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 04:53 PM Response to Reply #24 |
98. MERCOLA IS A FUCKING CON MAN. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 08:14 PM Response to Reply #24 |
109. Mercola? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 11:19 PM Response to Reply #24 |
130. mercola is your "foremost authority on the subject"? oh my. eom |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-12-11 04:35 AM Response to Reply #24 |
203. You know what the Foremost Authority says is a safe remedy for flu symptoms? |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 01:01 PM Response to Reply #12 |
31. Let's see if I'm following your logic here: |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 04:52 PM Response to Reply #12 |
97. Bullshit. It's better to be safe than sorry when it comes to empidemics. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 04:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
93. some interesting recent businesss news stories |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 11:21 PM Response to Reply #93 |
133. Do businesses make money off food? They do? OMG, food is Teh Evil!!!1111 |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 12:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. That's true, the fact that people are making money off it |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 12:40 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Flu Vaccine is Bullship |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 12:44 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Other than your personal assertion, can you provide ANY evidence that supports your claims? |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 12:49 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. Waste of Time |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 12:51 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. So your answer is "no, I cannot provide any factual evidence" then? |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 12:57 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. www.mercola.com |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 01:11 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. Hahahahaha! A homeopathic website is your "evidence"? Hahahahaha! |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #39 |
48. But Dr. Cola is willing to sell you his products! |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 02:37 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. I've Studied Nutrition for 20 Years |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Odd because at the begininning |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 03:46 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. And unlike the claim that big pharma "might" be lying, we "KNOW" homeopaths are lying. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 03:53 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. No kidding |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 04:11 PM Response to Reply #70 |
79. the Ad Hom continues |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 04:18 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. Equating witchcraft with homeopathy |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 04:22 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Okay Back UP |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. Nutrition is Naturopathy |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 04:36 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. Actually there's a lot of evidence that polio was made worse by sanitation |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 05:24 PM Response to Reply #91 |
200. Bingo! |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 09:13 PM Response to Reply #87 |
112. Nutrition is health care. It is not the sole possession of Naturapathic QUACKS! |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 11:16 PM Response to Reply #112 |
128. Then work at reclaiming it from them |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 11:21 PM Response to Reply #128 |
131. And MDs should and public health officials should spend less time on what? |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 11:23 PM Response to Reply #131 |
135. Drs? |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 11:43 PM Response to Reply #135 |
142. Newsflash: Homeopaths and Naturapaths pretend they're the only ones doing it. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 12:12 AM Response to Reply #142 |
162. Because to everyone else it isn't something to be advocated |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 06:49 PM Response to Reply #83 |
102. Oh, thats fucking BRILLIANT!!!! |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 06:48 PM Response to Reply #79 |
101. Hahaha! Fail again. YOU make assertions that no one else does, then claim they do. |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 03:59 PM Response to Reply #64 |
73. he said she said |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 03:47 PM Response to Reply #56 |
66. So what are you saying? |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. I know what you're saying |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 04:00 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. But you can't counter |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 04:08 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. Waste of Time |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 11:24 PM Response to Reply #77 |
136. um, google is a search and other website. Not "some facts". |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 12:12 AM Response to Reply #136 |
163. I was responding snidely to kalun in the same way he responded |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 12:41 AM Response to Reply #163 |
167. ah, thank you. I saw that also but have difficulty keeping people without avatars straight |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 04:23 PM Response to Reply #74 |
86. It's impossible to counter you argument with facts |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 04:27 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. naturopathy |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 04:32 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. Sure you try that |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 04:29 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. Exactly |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 04:37 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. I take it you didn't read the rest of that post |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Because he is selling homeopathic "remedies" DOES mean its a scam. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 03:03 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Homeopathic anything is a guaranteed scam |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 03:43 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. That exactly what they are: sugar pills. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 03:51 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. Slander! |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #59 |
72. Tell Us |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 03:48 PM Response to Reply #57 |
68. According To |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 10:32 PM Response to Reply #68 |
121. Only by willfully ignoring the COPIOUS amount of studies on homeopathy can you state that. |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 02:33 PM Response to Reply #39 |
51. and |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 02:53 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Hey, YOU made all those baseless assertions, not me, so why are you waiting on me to explain them? |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 04:07 PM Response to Reply #55 |
76. Cleanhippie's ad hom attack |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 06:47 PM Response to Reply #76 |
100. You are putting up a strawman, again. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 01:12 PM Response to Reply #25 |
40. That's mrcola.com; the formost authority on mecidal science. nt |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 02:35 PM Response to Reply #40 |
52. Ad Hominem |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 03:47 PM Response to Reply #52 |
65. But the fact that Mercola and homeopathic remedies are a scam IS an argument |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #65 |
78. Deleted message |
WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 01:00 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. Both sides of the aisle |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 02:42 PM Response to Reply #30 |
54. What Kind Of Science? |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 03:02 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. You do realize homeopathy is a thoroughly discredit belief system, right? |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 04:16 PM Response to Reply #58 |
80. Wikipedia |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 04:20 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. I suppose you're right |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 03:47 PM Response to Reply #54 |
67. Wow, thats some serious denial you have going on there. |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 04:16 PM Response to Reply #67 |
81. Only Problem Is |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #81 |
103. You are right, I cannot say why you are in denial. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 07:07 AM Response to Reply #54 |
180. Homeopathy IS NOT FUCKING SCIENCE |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 11:22 PM Response to Reply #18 |
134. google is your "link to some facts" showing "flu vaccine is bullship"? |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 12:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. So don't get a flu shot |
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drmeow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 01:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
28. Salk refused to patent |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 01:04 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Indeed |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 11:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
201. Ladies and gentlemen, I present another sad case of |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
4. If vaccines were 100% effective |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 12:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Where do you get that from? |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 12:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Sure |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 12:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Ok, thanks. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #15 |
60. No prob |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 12:48 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. He's right - he means that vaccines don't always provide immunity. |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
8. The pertussis outbreak worries me for my youngest son. |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 12:42 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. It is likely that you can thank the anti-vax scare mongerers for this elevated risk. |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 12:49 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. Why would I thank them - I blame them! The doctors said the danger |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 12:51 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Of course, I was using some sarcasm there. |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. My sarcasm radar's on the fritz, sorry. I worry what it will take |
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EvolveOrConvolve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 08:13 PM Response to Reply #23 |
107. My fear is that it will take something truly terrible to happen before these people wake up |
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barbiegeek (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
14. Thimersol was removed from MMR in 1999 |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 12:59 PM Response to Reply #14 |
27. Vaccines are Chemicals |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 01:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Weird. I always get mine in a muscle, not through an IV. |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 04:17 PM Response to Reply #29 |
82. Do You Understand General Terms |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 08:28 AM Response to Reply #82 |
184. Clearly you don't understand general terms. That's the problem. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 01:08 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. Nachos are chemicals |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 01:12 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Now THATS funny! +1 |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 01:15 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. True, but jalapenos neutralize the effect. I read it at mrcola.com. nt |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 03:26 AM Response to Reply #43 |
169. OK, i laughed a little |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 10:37 PM Response to Reply #27 |
124. Oooogaaaaaa! BOOOOOOOGGGGGAAAA!! |
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barbiegeek (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 11:16 AM Response to Reply #27 |
194. I believe they are RNA fractions |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-12-11 03:59 AM Response to Reply #27 |
202. Everything is a chemical or combination of chemicals |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
20. kick |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
26. Sadly, I think these anti vaccers |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
35. Doesn't CA have a large population of children of immigrants who aren't vaccinate? |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
36. +1. nt |
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RedCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
37. Just take human food grade Diatomaceous earth. And fuck all diseases! |
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laundry_queen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
44. Vaccines should never be mandated |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 01:32 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. If you want your kids to attend public school, then yes, it should be required. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 09:14 PM Response to Reply #46 |
113. +1 |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 01:38 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. We put a lot of restrictions on what people can do |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Police state! Police state! |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #49 |
61. Well ok |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 02:03 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. The "study" you propose is ethically and logistically impossible. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #50 |
62. About that |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 04:49 PM Response to Reply #50 |
96. Why not just follow the religiously exempt? |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 07:52 PM Response to Reply #96 |
106. The unvaccinated Amish have autism too. |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 10:33 PM Response to Reply #106 |
122. At the same rates as vaccinated kids do. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 11:18 PM Response to Reply #106 |
129. Impossible |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 04:47 PM Response to Reply #44 |
95. . |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
75. I love how anecdotal (and not even truly demonstrated) correlation MUST imply causation |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 04:45 PM Response to Reply #75 |
94. We know what causes pertussis |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 05:05 PM Response to Reply #94 |
99. LOL. Where is the evidence that shows that total rates of vaccination |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 07:00 PM Response to Reply #99 |
105. From the article: |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 09:08 PM Response to Reply #105 |
111. LOL. No implcation was made whatsoever! |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 10:26 PM Response to Reply #111 |
117. Uh, no one EVER claimed it was the "liberals" of SF, but it IS the IGNORANT of SF |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 11:51 PM Response to Reply #117 |
149. LOL. Who do you think lives in San Francisco? Kombucha drinkers or tea baggers? LOL n/t |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 03:30 AM Response to Reply #149 |
170. Dude, you are pricless. I am so saving this thread for when I need a laugh. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 08:13 PM Response to Reply #99 |
108. Please present your source that children get FIFTY PLUS vaccines. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 09:21 PM Response to Reply #108 |
114. NJ requires 33 vaccine doses by 12th grade to be eligible to attend public school. |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 10:34 PM Response to Reply #114 |
123. My what large error bars you have! |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 11:41 PM Response to Reply #123 |
140. Cute. If you live until age 70, well over 100 vaccinations are currently recommended. |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 12:39 AM Response to Reply #140 |
165. zOMG! 20-40 vaccinations in 50+ years? Will the horrors never cease? |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 10:37 PM Response to Reply #114 |
125. Thats 2 per year average. Ohhh, scary! |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 11:44 PM Response to Reply #125 |
143. Thanks, Count. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 11:49 PM Response to Reply #125 |
146. I've heard that many of them contain CHEMICALS!!!!!! |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 07:39 AM Response to Reply #114 |
182. Thank you for proving that your own claim was FALSE. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 11:08 PM Response to Reply #99 |
126. Here's some fun graphs for you |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 11:46 PM Response to Reply #126 |
144. When have I ever argued against the effectiveness of any of thes vaccines? |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 10:54 AM Response to Reply #144 |
187. "Who the fuck are you confusing me with?" |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 11:21 PM Response to Reply #99 |
132. You are free to ignore reality |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 11:48 PM Response to Reply #132 |
145. LOL. Nice non sequitur strawman. n/t |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 12:03 AM Response to Reply #145 |
158. Is someone moving in on your territory? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 09:44 AM Response to Reply #158 |
185. This is a trend for this particular individual. It's never ending. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 12:46 PM Response to Reply #185 |
197. . |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 03:32 AM Response to Reply #99 |
171. WoW! this is interesting |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 06:58 PM Response to Reply #75 |
104. But there has not been a "steep risein mandatory vaccinations coinciding.." |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 08:29 PM Response to Reply #104 |
110. Actually... |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 09:45 PM Response to Reply #110 |
116. I was not discussing the putative CAUSE of the rise. I was discussing that fact |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 10:30 PM Response to Reply #116 |
119. Only if you disregard the widening of the diagnosis' of autism. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 11:37 PM Response to Reply #119 |
139. That's a putative CAUSE for the steep recent rise in incidence of autism. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 12:00 AM Response to Reply #139 |
157. These correlate pretty nice |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 12:08 AM Response to Reply #157 |
161. Oh my god, so does this one |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 03:37 AM Response to Reply #157 |
172. Wow! Did you just discover that correlation does not always equal causation? |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 11:04 AM Response to Reply #172 |
193. Correlation doesn't prove causation |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 09:41 PM Response to Reply #104 |
115. LOL. You folks will deny ANYTHING! |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 10:28 PM Response to Reply #115 |
118. What is the source for this chart? |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 10:30 PM Response to Reply #118 |
120. Why does it matter? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 11:35 PM Response to Reply #120 |
138. HuckleB, you are merely suggesting an alternate CAUSE for the steep rise in the reported |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 11:43 PM Response to Reply #138 |
141. Yeah, I choose to ignore reality. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 11:49 PM Response to Reply #141 |
147. LOL. You're priceless. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 11:50 PM Response to Reply #147 |
148. And, as usual, you have no response when the real world invades your fantasy world. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 11:53 PM Response to Reply #148 |
151. You live in a fantasy world in which you cannot even admit an UNDENIABLE correlation. n/t |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 11:56 PM Response to Reply #151 |
152. Correlation? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 11:58 PM Response to Reply #152 |
154. smh n/t |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 11:59 PM Response to Reply #154 |
155. Try using it for once. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 09:45 AM Response to Reply #155 |
186. This is a trend for this particular individual. It's never ending. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 12:45 PM Response to Reply #186 |
196. . |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 11:51 PM Response to Reply #138 |
150. You know the cause |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 11:59 PM Response to Reply #150 |
156. Yeah, we ALL know the cause. Because you say so. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 12:04 AM Response to Reply #156 |
159. Because it's obvious |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 03:42 AM Response to Reply #159 |
173. Yeah, that's why the causes of the recent rise in autism cases are so controversial among |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 10:57 AM Response to Reply #173 |
188. The cause of autism |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 11:04 AM Response to Reply #173 |
192. BTW: you didn't answer my question |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 11:32 PM Response to Reply #118 |
137. Come on. Are you denying that the incidences of reported autism have gone up over the last 20 years? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 12:40 AM Response to Reply #137 |
166. The decline of piracy also causes global warming! |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 03:43 AM Response to Reply #166 |
174. Yet another person who just discovered that correlation does not necessarily imply causation! |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 10:58 AM Response to Reply #166 |
189. But do pirates cause autism? |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 02:39 AM Response to Reply #137 |
168. I haven't denied shit. I asked for the source of your chart. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 03:47 AM Response to Reply #168 |
175. You are clearly an AUTISM DENIER. |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 05:09 AM Response to Reply #175 |
178. Classic. Keep making shit up and changing the subject. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 05:01 PM Response to Reply #175 |
199. Before then they were called "Retarded" or "Psychotic". |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 11:14 PM Response to Reply #115 |
127. OMG! That is a damning chart |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 11:57 PM Response to Reply #127 |
153. What is with all the non sequitur strawmen? |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 12:07 AM Response to Reply #153 |
160. Sigh |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 03:49 AM Response to Reply #160 |
176. Yet another AUTISM DENIER! |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 08:11 AM Response to Reply #176 |
183. How the heck |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 11:00 AM Response to Reply #176 |
190. There you go |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 12:20 PM Response to Reply #176 |
195. Of course, we're *denying* the existence of a disorder if we point out that it was frequently |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 12:37 AM Response to Reply #115 |
164. What a bunch of BULLSHIT. Autism was barely understood and know before the 80s. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 03:59 AM Response to Reply #164 |
177. What's disgusting and dishonest is denying that US autism rates are truly rising. |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 05:11 AM Response to Reply #177 |
179. Hahahahahahaha!!!! |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 07:28 AM Response to Reply #177 |
181. That's not what that graph says at all. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 04:59 PM Response to Reply #177 |
198. The high-functioning part of the spectrum was almost unknown before 1994. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 11:02 AM Response to Reply #164 |
191. Actually they started diagnosing it in the 60 |
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