Why can't gay people be good and just sit down?

[WillParkinson]

We've seen it in the papers. We've seen it on TV. Heck, we've even seen it here on DU.

Sit down. Shut up.

Why can't we?

Because we have no one else to speak for us and if we do not get together and speak on our own behalf then we deserve to be stepped on.

States are allowing people to decide by simple majority vote the rights of minorities. This is unheard of in the US in modern times. Yet it's being allowed. Why? Because it's only gays and lesbians. It's not like we're people, after all.

Well it's just marriage. It's not like anyone is trying to take away any other rights.

Now that they've amendments against gay marriage many states are looking at making it illegal for gays and lesbians to adopt.

We're a wedge issue. The Republicans are using us to drive people to the polls because they have to protect what is "good and normal" from the deviants of society.

And after that what happens? You'll have removed gay marriage. You'll have taken away adoption. Will you then go after...what? Healthcare for gays? Banning people of the same sex from living together?

Where will the line finally be drawn?

So sit down. Shut up.

When will you finally say "no"?

[Warpy]

1. Same reason women can't. And won't.

They'd like for us to sit down and shut up, too, to become purely decorative and not bother the big strong men about our silly little right to determine what happens to our own bodies, but no, we have to get all up in their faces and turn churchy people off because we just won't behave ourselves.

We don't and you shouldn't, either. We're all in this one together. If one group is allowed to have their rights diminished, all groups are under threat.

[Phredicles]

2. No one ever secured their rights by meekly sitting back and waiting their turn.

[lazer47]

3. You don't have to "sit down and shut-up" as long as there is a 2nd amendment

[RedLetterRev]

22. The Second AND the Ninth

and the other eight. Plus the 14th. They're all just as much mine as anybody else's.

I'll be damned if I'll give any one of them up just because the oogedy-boogedy, nutjob wing of party that wasn't wrapped too tight to start with decided that their ascension to power has to be across my back and the backs of my LGBTQ brothers and sisters. I'd say they can kiss my... whatever... but their lips aren't good enough even for the bottom of my shoe if I stepped in dogdoo. I've lived on this earth long enough, I've worked hard enough, I've contributed to society long enough, I've served my country; I've earned my place. WTF have they done other than bitch, whine, cajole, finger-point, and grab at what other people either have or should rightly have? They haven't earned a thing. They only steal either by craft or by dint of force.

IMHO, the oogedy-boogedies are the kind of people who would trespass into your back yard to steal the sheets off your line and the wood off your shed to burn a cross in someone's yard they don't know and beat them with a Bible they don't read.

That's just sorry. Bone sorry.

[bigscott]

4. Fuck that

we got blamed for the elections of 2000 and 2004. We were told to be quiet then.

Now they are taking away our right to equality (marriage, adoption) and happiness and telling us to behave while they do it. Well, fuck that.

never again. Many in "straight" America think us faggots wont fight back - they have another thing coming

peace

S

[lazer47]

6. There are also some of us "straight" folks that are hoping some of

you "faggots" (your word not mine)stand your ground,,

[tavalon]

19. Nader got blamed for 2000 and Bush for 2004

[kickysnana]

5. And stop those awful parades especially the one in NOLA..oh wait never mind n/t.

[Doodler71]

7. It's hard to sit down when someone is shoving their bible up your

a$$

[FreeState]

12. LOL - thats a Duzzy :) n/t

[NMDemDist2]

8. Get Up, Stand Up, Stand UP for your rights!!

Get Up, Stand Up, don't give up the fight!!


and who can't move to a classic Bob Marley groove?


:fistbump:

[RetiredTrotskyite]

9. We Can't Sit Down and Be Quiet...

because homophobes do everything possible to make our lives as circumscribed and miserable as possible. We can either sit down, shut up and make nice, or we can fight for our rights. I choose the latter.

[mondo joe]

10. All I can think is how nice it would be to have the luxury of sitting quietly.

I can hardly imagine not having to stand up and call for equality.

[Cronus Protagonist]

11. After marriage, adoption, after adoption, employment, after that, housing

Then it's camps for the indigent and the final solution is then a matter of history completing its circle once more.

We all know the game plan. Few speak it out loud, though.

[bluedawg12]

13. Being passive is not going to achieve anything and the rw is not giving up

they fan the flames of bigotry for their own interests, namely power and money.

This propaganda, used to get the foot soldiers to do the bidding of the wealthy right.

>>The Republicans are using us to drive people to the polls because they have to protect what is "good and normal" from the deviants of society.<<

Because, it is ironic, when it comes to their one true god, money, then, they will sell food to gays, conduct an orchestra with gays, hire a gay to be an executive for thier movie chain, and even recant and include gays in their relationship matching service.

The top of the right wing kicks us silently behind the veil so to speak, while they enlist the Palin rally fanatic types to do their dirty work.

That's how the wedge issues work, the top of the right, the ones who make the big money don't get their hands dirty...until they are caught, by virtue of the internet and the speed of information.

[ohm_moyh_gawd]

15. Regarding Right-Wing X-ians

I take the "Christ" out when referring to them simply because there is nothing Christ-like about them; I'm not referring to all Christians, just the right-wing zealots. My point is, these fanatics have very successfully pushed their way into the mainstream over the past 25 years, and it's time for us to start referring to them as what they are: they are members of a cult. Once they have chosen to drink the cool-aid, there is no room for independent thought or individuality -- you believe as you are told to believe, and you don't question. And that's the bottom line when we are dealing with them. There is no reasoning with them, there's no chance of winning them over. I know, because that's the family I've been lucky enough to come out of and remove myself from. The wedge WE need to drive is the one between mainstream society accepting these revolutionaries of theocracy as part of the mainstream, because it goes _way_ beyond the demonizing of us gays -- that's just their most successful issue they can count on the public backing them up on. They won't be happy until their version of the Constitution is made into law, written straight from their bible. Right-wing x-ianity is a cult, nothing less.

[bluedawg12]

18. I heard some repug pundit decrying the influence of the rw religionists

in their own party and how it has caused them to decline.

That's the war going on in their own ranks, between those who use religiosity as a barrier to their party and as a wedge issue in society at large. The point being, even THEY are beginning to admit it now.

[ohm_moyh_gawd]

20. I think the best outcome of the GOP civil war

will be the rw-religionists being kicked out or splintering off to form their own party out of frustration with more moderate conservatives. Let their uncompromising idealism push them into isolation.

[AntiFascist]

14. If the CA Supreme Court does not overturn Prop 8 ....

I have a feeling there is going to be some real hell to pay. Maybe we've only shown them the tip of the iceberg.

[FreeState]

16. I agree - if its not overturned there is going to be massive protests with Civil Unrest

When prop 8 passed I dreamed of doing non-violent protest in intersections - there is one in San Diego that several have already mentioned - that if you get enough people willing to practice peaceful non-violent civil disobedience by sitting in it and refusing to move - say at oh 5-6pm... this would result in virtually all the freeways backing up for hours on end.

Im willing to risk civil disobedience arrest on my record for my civil rights and I know many others that would do the same...

[Chulanowa]

17. As much as it pains me to say it...

Every successful peaceful protest has had the threat of force backing it up. Decried and denounced by the movement's leaders (or at least the top-level ones, while firebrand lieutenants advocate) but definitely there.

Waving signs and chanting slogans is ineffective. It didn't slow the Vietnam war. It didn't halt the Iraq war. it hasn't brought full equality to a large number of American minorities - glbt included.

Forceful protest need not be violent - King's followers digging their fingernails into lunch counters as whites tried to pull them away, Indians defying British salt laws - these are forceful protests. Civil disobedience, protest with impact, open defiance of the laws in question... This is what gets stuff done.

[madmadmad]

21. i'd get arrested for this cause, yes.