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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 07:49 PM
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Tilda Swinton
Is pretty cool. Discuss amongst yourselves.

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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 07:54 PM
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1. I've thought she's da bomb since I saw her in "Orlando" years ago
That was her, wasn't it?
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 08:02 PM
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2. Yep
That was her, as a him, then a her.

Cool, quirky, colorful movie.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 09:48 AM
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18. I love that movie
But I'm a sucker for period films with gorgeous outfits. :)
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 08:05 PM
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3. She reminds me of a very young Vanessa Redgrave
Gorgeous in a haunting, mysterious way.
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 08:06 PM
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4. In "The Deep End" she's the mom struggling to keep her teenage son out of bad trouble,
Edited on Thu Aug-21-08 08:18 PM by Idealist Hippie
and it's one of the gutsiest portrayals of "what a parent is" I've ever seen.

Loved her in Orlando. Loved her in Michael Clayton. She's just fearless as an actress and disappears entirely into the character.

Edit: changed "what a mom is" to "what a parent is" --
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 08:13 PM
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6. She was terrific in the Deep End
and Michael Clayton too. But Deep End did it for me. What a complicated part to think your son might have killed someone and still fight so hard for him.
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 08:17 PM
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7. I just came racing back from the kitchen to edit my post --
because it dawned on me I should have said something about "the parent protecting the child" -- gender or sexual orientation of the caretaking parent has nothing to do with anything --

am so glad to see the "reply" is what you wrote!
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 08:23 PM
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8. Her character in that broke my heart.
I felt so bad for her, I would have lent her money...LOL. To think, this is the same person who played the bitchy self-conscious attorney in Michael Clayton, and the White Witch.

I think she and Cate Blanchett are our most chameleon-like actresses. They can play just about any type of character, and it is believable. They do not appear to be "acting", they are the character.
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 10:18 PM
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12. Can you imagine Tilda as Richard III --
For her, the "scarce half made up" line would refer to her slight build.

"I am not in a giving vein today" -- whoof, she could do that, she could.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 08:06 PM
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5. Her performance in Michael Clayton was stunning.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:13 PM
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9. Love Her
Loved her in Constantine - OK, I know, nobody else liked it. But I thought it was good.
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 07:11 PM
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15. I liked it
But even if it had sucked, how can you beat Swinton as Gabriel?



OMG. *Swoon*
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 02:59 PM
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17. That costume was a bit of bad-ass.
Pretty cool.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 03:37 PM
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21. Yeah, that was a wee bit hot.
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Riverman Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:16 PM
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10. Everything about her is HOT! If I was a Lesbian I would
be all over her! She'd even make a hot guy too! Whew, she makes me sweat!
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 10:14 PM
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11. She was the only thing that made
"The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe." watchable. A truly creepy performance.
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swimmernsecretsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 11:55 PM
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13. My first exposure to Tilda Swinton was her work in "The Last of England."
Edited on Fri Aug-22-08 12:23 AM by swimmernsecretsea
At that time, she was very young, her skin clear as quartz, that Botticelli face moving subtly from impishness to an exposed, terrified agony. She was the heart of the film, mercurial and lovely, the strong center of an avant-garde art film that when she was on screen was incredibly hard not to look at. There's a scene she plays in a ruined, bombed-out building, where she sits forlornly, idly braiding her hair. She seems to stare at nothing, in shock from some terrible event we'll never know about. The camera stays on her for minutes. Her face cracks and what seems like a gravity of pain emerges. I've never forgotten her in that film, and at that moment became a fervent fan of Ms. Swinton.

She appeared in Derek Jarman's films often, his apparent muse. He was right to feature her so often. He was a great talent of course, but having her in his films grounded them. She was the pillar that held up his stories.

I loved that she had such unconventional looks. Those blonde, almost invisible lashes, that firm, set mouth that sometimes looked mean, her forward-jutting chin that could make her look masculine, and that fount of hair that went from bitter orange to spun glass to haystraws. It made her go from delicate and pretty to ugly, and she wasn't afraid of going to "ugly." In "Orlando," she tossed her short red hair into her eyes and looked schoolboy; in the second half of the movie, her discomfiture when she wore the grand pompadour in her life as a woman was hilarious, but then she grew into her natural beauty. I wonder if transgendered people thought of her when they felt themselves change under the pull of hormones introduced into their bodies, and their looks soften or roughen with their attitudes. I understood the emotions that trans people feel better through Tilda.

Her hair was a handful of tentrils in "Constantine" where she played an angel. To me, it was the most remarkable portrayal of an angel I'd seen, and the most interesting and "real." Angels are in in our imaginations. The rules are up to us. Swinton's angel differed from the past movies because being a blank, we could put our feelings about angels on her and see if they fit. Angels aren't usually androgynous, or filled with delight after causing havoc. They're not usually seen as fierce and complex, and maybe not even good. It's a different point of view on the concept, but it moved the story better.

One of my favorite roles, that of the mother in "The Deep End," the mother who hides and protects, is someone anybody who has cared for another person, especially that of a child, could relate to. She was resourceful in a way that we hope we'd be if we ever were confronted with our family in danger. I loved that about her. She was so like a metal knife through the film that when she finally cracks in the end, it is devastating. We've been alongside her while she fought like the proverbial mother bear, and it hurt to see her give in to her own agony. It's similar to her role in "Michael Clayton" in that she his a fiercely strong woman, able to do what is necessary without a moment to think, but whose moral center is tilted off the page.

"Derek," a paean to Derek Jarman, was featured in the Frameline LGBT film festival this year. She introduces the film, briefly discusses her work with Jarman, replays his sources and influences, wanders through places he filmed and lived. Clips of her being candid and frolicing while Jarman filmed her, when she was just a young girl, are heartbreaking when she is seen today and her grief for her friend marks her face. How often does the muse love you back? Swinton improved Jarman's films, and Jarman brought out her wild talent.

What I love about Swinton; androgynous, brave, watchable, gender-neutral, a mirror, a painting, strength, pain, vulnerability, inventiveness....a master of acting. I have no idea how to define a great actress or a great performance. It's difficult to pin down. But I think when you forget you're looking through a frame at someone doing a performance, when your hands inadvertently move forward because you wished you could put a hand on her arm to comfort her, when you feel your back arch in surprise or anger at her work, or just get amazed at what you saw because nobody ever moved you like that, then I say she is great.


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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 01:39 PM
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19. Nice Post.
In the end scene of Michael Clayton, where she was really getting her comeuppance, she made a quick, cringing expression she made before she realized he didn't want the money. I think that small expression was what really won her that Oscar. So much was shown in that expression, insecurity, realization that everything she had done wrong had caught up with her. She could have just spoken with her boss, who was really the one who handed her a mess. But, being a woman who had to prove herself in a man's world, she played the good soldier, and tried to cover up for her boss. It was tragic, even though her character was a hateful bitch, she was insecure about it, and real.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 01:05 PM
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20. Yeah, isn't it amazing how a single expression that perfectly brings to a climax an entire storyline
can be so moving and awesome? She got it, and got it down right. Totally deserved that Oscar.
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 07:15 PM
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22. I thought Cate Blanchett would win...
Or Ruby Dee, not because I liked their roles better, but Tilda seemed to be the dark horse.

Her speech was the best. My sister went to Vegas the week before, and I kicked myself over not putting 100 bucks on her to win, because the odds were like 10 to 1. But, alas, I am not much of a betting woman.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 05:10 AM
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14. Excellent actress. Particularly wonderful in Derek Jarman's "Edward II"
She's always willing to take on interesting roles. Particularly in qay themed movies.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 11:03 PM
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16. I loved her in Constantine, Michael Clayton and Jarman's films.
She just has that kind of thespian-ness about her that I love!
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 03:08 PM
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23. Somebody please cast her in a film version of the Left Hand of Darkness!
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:07 PM
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24. Interesting idea.
Indeed.
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swimmernsecretsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:13 AM
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26. I love it! That's a great idea! nt
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 08:32 AM
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25. one of the great, great beauties of our time. legendary. nt
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