Black Pastors Pray For Defeat Of Gay Rights Ordinance

[davidinalameda]

http://www.365gay.com/Newscon05/11/113005Indy.htm

Pastors from nearly a dozen Indianapolis black churches held a prayer service Wednesday in the Indianapolis City-Council building calling on divine intervention to block a proposed ordinance banning discrimination against members of the LGBT community.

The group denounced gays, calling homosexuality "perverse" and "an abomination". They also expressed their anger that the fight for LGBT rights was being compared to the civil rights movement.

“It is an offense to black people to be used – that the blood of our fathers and our own blood that was spilled on the pathways to civil rights should be used - as a lever to get legal license to make their own choices law,” said the Rev. Melvin Jackson of the Christian Love Missionary Baptist Church.

The city council will vote on the proposed ordinance the middle of December.


the good ministers involved with this should also realize that hatred is perverse and goes against Jesus' call to love your neighbor

[MountainLaurel]

1. Onward Christian soldiers!

:eyes:

[marmar]

2. “It is an offense to black people to be used .....

No, as an African American, it is an offense to black people to have a group of black pastors advocating discrimination against anyone. And actually, these pastors don't realize it, but they've turned off a lot of members and potential members with this anti-gay stance. I know lots of people who've stopped going to church because they're tired of hearing it.

[Zenlitened]

3. "Those people" don't deserve the same rights as "the rest of us"...

... and that's just the way "god intended" the "natural order" of things to be.

Hmmmmmm... where have I heard that kind of talk before? The language of the Master Class sounds just as ugly no matter whose mouth is spewing it.

:puke:

Memo to these ministers: It's a GLBT thing. You wouldn't understand.

[TechBear_Seattle]

6. They SHOULD understand

Memo to these ministers: It's a GLBT thing. You wouldn't understand.

Postscript to the memo: It is the bigory and attempts at oppression of a majority being aimed at an identifiable group that is different and presumed to be far worse than "normal, decent" folk. You had damned well better understand.

[Zenlitened]

7. That's a take-off on a phrase popular on tee-shirts many years ago:

"It's a Black thing. You wouldn't understand." The implication being that someone who is not African-American-- no matter how well-intentioned-- could never truly understand the experience of being Black in America.

Which may very well be true. But now, apparently, there are members of the Black community who have snugly ensconced themselves within the Master Class. To the point where they're quite comfortable advocating unequal treatment for an entire group of people.

Black Crackers, you might call 'em. They haughtily insist that the GLBT community has no right to compare its experience to that of the Black community. They're wrong, of course, though it seems they have no way of truly understanding that fact because they can never truly walk in the shoes of a GLBT person.

Sad, because just like many Whites played an active and passionate role in the Black civil rights movement, so too are many African-Americans helping lead the charge for GLBT civil rights. Coretta Scott King herself has spoken eloquently on the parallels between the two causes, and how discrimination is discrimination, no matter who the target is.

Understanding that is a... human thing. But bigots, in denying the humanity of others, diminish their own humanity. So maybe it's no surprise that understanding eludes them.

[freestyle]

4. I get so angry at these fuckers denying my existence and our history.

These people can use whatever religious distortions they want to, but they need to stop excluding black GLBT people from the community and they need to stop denying the history of GLBT in all aspects of black life and in the civil rights movement.

I'm Black, Gay, Christian, and comfortable with all of that, and either you are for equal citizenship for all people or you are a bigot. These ministers who want to use their religious interpretations to deny citizenship to anyone are bigots. To lie about the history of the civil rights movement that included people like Bayard Rustin and Angela Davis, and that drew sustenance from the words of people like Langston Hughes, James Baldwin and Lorraine Hansberry is the height of hypocrisy and prevarication. There may not have been a March on Washington for Dr. King to speak at without the efforts of the openly gay Bayard Rustin.

[Occulus]

5. Oh, but it's not the religion that's the problem.

No-siree. Not at all.

[terrya]

8. Why would "men of God" support bigotry?

I have never understood that...why would men of the cloth support bigotry and discrimination? Is that "What Jesus Would Do"?