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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 08:46 AM
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Abraham Lincoln: A life in the closet?
Abraham Lincoln (1809-65) may likely be the most studied and researched of the United States presidents. The first reference to him possibly being “homosexual” came from notable Lincoln expert Carl Sandburg in his 1926 biography, “Abraham Lincoln: The War Years.” In describing the early relationship between Lincoln and his close friend, Joshua Fry Speed, Sandburg wrote “a streak of lavender, and spots soft as May violets.” This line got historians talking about an issue from which many had previously shied away. Still, the biography was written in the early 20th century, a time when such topics were only discussed in whispers. But by including the line, Sandburg felt the relationship deserved acknowledgement. It wasn’t until 2005 when the first book was published on Lincoln’s relationships with men, C.A. Tripp’s “The Intimate World of Abraham Lincoln.”

Detractors of Lincoln’s possible homosexuality, such as historian David Herbert Donald, often say there is no new evidence on Lincoln. Yet historians continue to draw fresh conclusions from Lincoln’s letters. Those who attempt to refute Lincoln’s possible “homosexua


Abraham Lincoln as a young man. (Public domain photo by the Library of Congress, via Wikimedia Commons)
lity” usually focus on one particular incident — of the many — that supports the theory: his relationship with Speed.

Yet history, like everything else, is open to interpretation and influenced by new findings. Bias also motivated the retelling of historical events. The best example of bias in American history is the story of Thomas Jefferson and his slave/concubine Sally Hemings, which was not accepted as a truthful account until 1998 — and only after DNA proof. African-American citizens — not historians — led the effort to give Hemings her rightful place in history. Likewise with Lincoln, most historians have referred to isolated facts rather than the pattern of events in his life to tell his personal story. Will history once again prove historians wrong?

http://www.washingtonblade.com/2011/10/25/abraham-lincoln-a-life-in-the-closet/
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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 09:02 AM
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1. A well written and very interesting article.
But the author makes several questionable assumptions that all point to Lincoln being gay.

Regardless, whether Lincoln was gay or bisexual or not, what does it matter? If we've made any progress regarding gay rights and attitudes in this country, it should matter no more than his religion and favorite foods.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 09:11 AM
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2. "What does it matter?"
Edited on Sat Nov-05-11 09:11 AM by William769
Well off of the top of my head everything!

I think we have had enough of the people writing lilly white history. Why did this new Congress omit any talk of slavery when they read the Constitution on the House floor? Should that have mattered? Why should GLBT youth be denied yet another role model? Because history doesn't matter?

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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 10:16 AM
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3. Can't believe you'd say "what does it matter."
Certainly, homosexuality matters for the vast majority of Christians in this country. It matters to all the gay people who feel he was a great president.

It matters.
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The Philosopher Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 10:30 AM
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4. It's not the future yet
That's why it matters.


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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 10:55 AM
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5. If there's been a successful effort to "de-gay" Lincoln.....
... by historians and by the culture in general, that says a lot about 19th and 20th century historiography. It also says a lot about the culture(s) in which it's been written.

BTW, Lincoln's religion was and is a popular subject of debate among historians, professional and amateur alike. I've never heard anyone express an opinion... al least til now... that this was an inconsequential aspect of Lincoln's life and legacy.
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