"My marriage is more special and more valuable than your relationship"

[bluestateguy]

That's effectively what these anti-equality homophobes are saying: that their relationships are so special and so sacred as to be worthy of marriage--with all of its rights and privileges--while gay persons' relationships are somehow worth less than that. That their relationships are not real, not meaningful, not special and not based on love and commitment. Therefore, such relationships, do not "deserve" to be sanctified in marriage. Maybe something less like domestic partners or civil unions, but some of these homophobes won't even go that far.

Burns me up.

[xchrom]

1. if i thought their hatred and icks were based on something other than sex

then yes i agree with you.

[mdavies013]

2. I don't think that they feel that they are special and sacred...or they would not be having sex in

be in diapers in brothels...with hookers...with interns...etc.

and for many...it's not about the sex...because there is enough evidence of married folks crossing the line (or shuffling their feet in bathroom stalls).

it's about power, it's about money, it's about whipping up simple minded people into a frenzy...and it's about votes. It is also about distorting the bible for the very same reasons.

Very sad and wrong. We use opportunities like this to discuss racism and hate with our children...in the hope that things will get better in the future. Specifically we have talked with our kids about friends of ours that cannot get married or have the same rights that our family can enjoy.

[ThomCat]

4. i agree with you. It is not their relationships that are special. They think

that THEY are special.

They party can only accomplish so much, so it should only spend its effort helping straight, white, middle class people who "really need it." I really think that a whole lot of straight democrats think that the party should only help "normal" people like them.

Helping us would somehow waste the party's time and energy, and take away from "normal" people who think they deserve that help more than us.

It is the old zero-sum thinking. Any help we get much have been taken out of their pockets somehow.

[sandnsea]

3. Yep. That's what they're saying

I suggest some ad campaigns to challenge that thinking that is based on something besides screaming bigot and homophobe.

[WVRICK13]

5. I Believe That Social Acceptance

of same sex relationships and gay people as a whole would preserve the sanctity of marriage. I live in a small WV town and it takes a great deal of courage to be myself and still live here. I live with my partner of 20 years. We moved here 10 years ago and we have been open and honest about our relationship. I mean seriously, how many men our age have been roommates for 20 years? The problem lies in those who try to conform to the societal norms and get married to the opposite sex although they are gay. They have children, go to church and then find a sexual outlet with same sex partners. In my opinion it is not fair to the gay people in straight marriages, their spouses nor their families. I cannot imagine living 24 hours a day in fear and denial. Nor can I imagine how their spouses feel internally. They have to sense the lack of connection and the poor people may even think it is something they did wrong. I base these conclusions on the number of passes straight men have made at me in the past ten years. I could have more sex here than if I lived in a city where gays are more open. One problem I am in a committed relationship.

[RetiredTrotskyite]

6. The Smug Comments on Huffington Post...

made me so angry and disgusted me so I had to stop reading. These people are haters and since we are damn near the ONLY group that it is still OK to discriminate, they eagerly have at it, egged on by their clergy. They do not give a damn what we go through--the families coming in and taking all of a person's wealth, even though that person is married--just not in the eyes of the law. They do not care that we can be denied hospital visitation rights--they don't give a damn about any of it. If they can oppress us by denying us full rights, then that is what they will do. The Matthew Shepard has tightened things up a bit as getting away with hate crime...so, they now go for hate votes (since hate legislation is getting harder and harder to ram through state legislatures).

These haters feel that they are ENTITLED to marriage and ENTITLED to say who else, if anyone, will be allowed the benefits thereof. These people disgust me. I have to remember that there are decent heterosexuals, just not enough to get marriage equality via the ballot box. I believe that marriage equality will have to come via the courts. It had to be done with almost every other group seeking their civil rights. Otherwise the bigots will continue to block equality any way they can.

I think bluesky has caught the attitude of some of the religiously motivated bigots. When it comes to marriage they are so special that only they should be allowed to marry (along with the 1100+ federal rights connected with marriage). However,the fact that so many of them also oppose civil unions with full federal rights as well as marriage equality tells me that a good number of them don't care as much about the words as they do the rights we will receive with full equality. I think you will find that many if we gave up and sought civil unions with rights, these "marriage for a man and a woman only" would then exert their efforts toward trying to assure that we don't get unions either. These people are fanatics and I fear only the courts will put the brakes on their activity.