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Prism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 08:36 AM
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Gross
I spent the last four days moving across country. Just logged in to catch up (did anything important happen this weekend?!)

Seriously, reading around, I feel like I stumbled onto Free Republic. Just, wow. It's one thing when your homophobia is encountered on a kind of IV drip. You get used to it and barely notice. But when you sit back and take it in all at once.

Gross.

It's a wonder any of us post here anymore. Jesus. And the worst of the worst anti-gay trolls are some of the most prolific posters!

That about says it.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 08:40 AM
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1. Name some names. We can take back our forums. n/t
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 08:40 AM
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2. I'm sorry to be clueless.
I often see references to homophobia here and I'm missing it or not witnessing it so I apologize for asking for a link.

without seeing what you're referring to, I'll apologize on behalf of all straight people, in cluding those, like me, who support you.
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Prism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 08:44 AM
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3. I appreciate your support
Can't really call anything out, as it's against rules. I'm just catching up on HRC dinner / Equality March threads from the past four days. There are some mind-blowing attitudes, the usual hostility, ponyism, etc. When you check the board several times a day, it gets a bit lost in the general wash. But reading it all grouped together, the overt hostility to equality and LGBT views is impossible to ignore.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 08:48 AM
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5. thanks, actually, I went on a hunting trip after I posted to find these "gems"
and I agree, when seen altogether there are some really offensive stuff.

Sorry that is happening. I wish I could wave a magic wand and make bigotry, hatred, homophobia and racism evaporate.

FWIW, I'm often surprised at what I see posted here on other issues as well. I would have thought we would be monolithically against torture, as an example, but I have seen people defend various aspects of it here.

but I'm digressing.

I think homophobia and racism are the worst forms of hatred because they are based on who a person is, not what they do. Its wrong.
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Joanie Baloney Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 01:20 PM
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13. I admit to being dense at times
and this is one of them...may I ask what "ponyism" refers to? Is it an "inside" term or something to do with asking for a pony for the holidays?

Thank you in advance,
JB
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Prism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 01:13 PM
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20. Ponyism
It's a degrading, dismissive term used against those who want the administration to keep its promises. It's based on asking for a pony for Christmas. For example, if someone expresses disappointment in the administration for not moving on LGBT issues, someone will invariably say "You're just upset you didn't get your pony."

As if equality under the law were some frivolous request based on whim, and those who don't have it are somehow performing a tantrum.

Sort of shows you where some people are coming from.

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Joanie Baloney Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 08:38 AM
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21. Thank you Prism
I understand now - I appreciate your reply. Yes, it is very telling.

Ponyism and cronyism - 2 -ism's that should hit the road...hard.

-JB
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 08:46 AM
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4. they don't care, they will mod warn you and tell you if you don't
like it you can leave and post elsewhere. they aren't gay so all they see is disloyalty to Obama and the party and this disrupts and frazzles the sensibilities of the party/Obama loyalists who come here to escape all of that. :crazy: Plus you have the gays (or people who camp out in this forum claiming to be gay) who put Obama adoration over their own personal dignity which is essentially required of us if we want to remain. :shrug:
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Prism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 08:52 AM
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7. Eh, I knew the score
When someone masqueraded as an "LGBTer of color" got busted wide open for it, and zero was done about him. He's still around trolling LGBT topics. I mean, when the fake gays are given high deference while the actual ones are warned to death about trying to combat bigotry, you sort of know precisely where you stand.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 08:51 AM
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6. Oh, come on! You people have a whole sub-forum to post in. What more could you possibly need?
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 08:58 AM
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8. Something a bit smaller, perhaps. Something, say, the size of...

... a closet?

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

:D

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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 09:01 AM
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9. Perfect! And maybe separate water fountains while we're at it.
Can't be too careful.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 09:02 AM
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11. Water? Now you want WATER, too? Show some patience, would you???!!!
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 02:24 PM
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16. Interesting, isn't it?
The people telling you to " have patience"
have the rights you are fighting for.

What are the words here- extreme hypocrites?

:puke:
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 09:08 PM
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19. Hypocrites, yes. Dwelling comfortably inside their bubbles. :(
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 09:01 AM
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10. Yep. The DUchebaggery has been more blatant than usual lately, it seems.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 10:36 AM
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12. It was not a good weekend.
And actually, the worst of it was finally removed last night, such as the "y'all faggots" gem.

Do you want to hear something really discouraging? There was a topic posted in GD Saturday or thereabouts asking if one should call out bigotry, or ignore it.

The "y'all faggots" poster was the FIRST to respond to it, saying, in effect, HELL YEAH, call 'em out!

I couldn't let that stand, so I replied to him. I was pointed but not disruptive.

A straight person with a rainbow avatar (!) proclaimed that she was going to alert....on ME, even after being made aware that this same person was posting faggot shit in our forum. Reported ME. And his post stayed and mine was deleted.

HELL YEAH, call 'em out, unless they're fag bashers. I'm sorry but this really pisses me off.

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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 01:39 PM
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15. yap I got deleted too
for daring some unamerican fucks to verbal combat singly or altogether at once. I know the mod was scared for the crowd, not for me.

And I'll fucking do it again.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 01:24 PM
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14. Mods
I say: Clean House!!!!!
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 06:24 PM
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18. And open the door and invite some posters back in (if they *want* to come back to this place). nt
Edited on Tue Oct-13-09 06:48 PM by tbyg52
Edited because I cannot write even a subject without a typo.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 03:09 PM
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17. Funny, it seems to be the same to me
same crowd, same comments. same condescension. and the same deference to the fan base. Worse? a bit
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Veruca Salt Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 06:21 PM
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22. Just read through the comments...
And I don't know whether to be glad or not I missed all the crap that was spewed during what was a civil rights march. With allies like those, who needs enemies? Christ. :-(
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