DU This Poll: Do Catholics have right to adopt through Protestant agency?

[Ian David]

See related thread:
(Mississippi) Adoption Firm: No Catholics
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1629925

My personal feeling is that yes, they do.

But on this poll, I am going to say "no."

http://www.wlbt.com/Global/story.asp?S=3596858&nav=1L7tc9yZ

I look at this as an opportunity for "tough love" to teach The Vatican that discriminating against a "lifestyle" (in this case, the Catholic lifestyle) is always wrong.

I say, let them "twist in the wind" a while and take it to court.

Please don't flame me, because my opinion is not set in stone, and if you want to change my mind, you just might be able to do it in calm, measured tones, without resorting to charges of Nazism, ok? We're only talking about adoption, not something really important like the right to smoke cigarettes in your car.

I hope the defendants cite the Florida anti-gay adoption statute in their defense and that the courts over-turn both forms of discrimination.

Do you think that a Catholic couple should have the right to adopt a child through a Protestant based adoption agency?

Do you think that a Catholic couple should have the right to adopt a child through a Protestant based adoption agency?


Here are the results so far.
Yes 84%
No 16%

http://www.wlbt.com/Global/story.asp?S=3596858&nav=1L7tc9yZ

[kenny blankenship]

1. only if they're GAY!

[yellerpup]

2. Yes 84%

They're all Christian aren't they? The KKK hates Catholics. Take away their license plate money!

[Ian David]

3. I urge you to vote NO CATHOLICS! The agency does NOT allow gays to adopt

However, they DO allow people who eat shell fish to adopt!
http://www.godhatesshrimp.com/

Sorry, I forgot to ask about Jews, but I think I know the answer.

I called the toll-free number listed on their web page, and it is a pregnancy emergency hot-line. It is not the number to call to talk about policy.

I have mixed feelings about calling a number that desperate pregnant women are supposed to use, because at least when they're being talked out of abortion, they're also being urged to use adoption (I presume).

Anyway, if you don't want to call their pregnant mother emergency hotline, the number for the office that makes policy is 616-224-7610

The operator on the crisis hotline urged me to ask people to use THAT number instead.

It's after hours, so I suppose you could call tomorrow or leave a message

Other phone numbers listed here:
http://www.bethany.org/mississippi

[noamnety]

4. I'm with you on this

I also voted no.

I think it's wrong to discriminate against anyone at the adoption agency.

But if you are going to discriminate against others and justify it by claiming some religious privilege, then you shouldn't have the right to prevent other religions from doing the same.

[Ian David]

5. DITTO! What's good for the Pope is Good for The Protestant Gander!

He who lives in glass churches should not throw anti-gay stones.

Tend to the bigot in thine own eye...

Yeah, what you said.

[Ian David]

6. My letter to the editor

While I am personally against any kind of discrimination such as this, I think that Catholics have a lot of nerve to whine about it. After all, aren't they (and also Bethany "Christian" Services) discriminating similarly against gay people?

I'm sorry, but if you're going to claim "Religious Privilege" to discriminate against a "Lifestyle Choice," then the Catholic Church needs to be reminded that being Catholic is most assuredly a "Lifestyle Choice," while there is a good case to be made that some people are born gay. Nobody is "Genetically Catholic." With proper prayer and "Restorative Therapy," Catholics can become good Protestants. People like Pat Robertson have made fortunes that way.

Let me remind you of the Florida statute barring gay adoptions, and the fact that the Catholic Church has supported this and other measures to ban adoptions by gay parents.

If the Catholic Church wants to apply these rules against others, then they have no business complaining when similar rules don't work in their own favor. Boo-hoo.

I support Bethany "Christian" Services in their decision, because I see it as a "tough love" lesson to Catholics and others about the consequences of discrimination.

[noamnety]

7. That's a GREAT line!

"With proper prayer and "Restorative Therapy," Catholics can become good Protestants."


:rofl:

[Ian David]

8. I'm thinking of re-writing it for my local papers

I already sent it to some of the Southern papers that ran the article, along with The Conservative Times.

I can feel the love already.

Here's my idea for a re-write to submit to local papers. Something along the lines of:

"First they wouldn't let gays adopt...

...and Catholics didn't speak-up, because they weren't gay. And when they wouldn't let Catholics adopt, the Catholics suddenly decided to speak-up."

[Rich Hunt]

12. well...

That's fine if you don't agree with the Vatican - I don't either, but that's no excuse to support the blacklisting and discrimination against innocent Catholics.

[ladeuxiemevoiture]

13. Bingo. I totally agree.

and I'm Catholic (I guess, not sure anymore, though).

[arwalden]

9. NO! Goose. Gander. -=- I Might Feel Differently If A Protestant Group...

... started trying to influence the mood and climate of the general public to oppose ANY Catholic from adopting, and if they tried to influence and buy politicians into writing laws and supporting policies that prohibited or limited Catholics from adopting.

But for now... I have much difficulty in mustering any sympathy for any religious group crying "foul" when they themselves have a reputation of their own for being one that institutionalizes and politicizes their flavor discrimination.

[MountainLaurel]

10. A bigger issue

Does an agency that receives government funds (in this case, from the sale of "Choose Life" :eyes: license plates) have the right to discriminate against ANYONE?

[Meeker Morgan]

11. Adoption per se is not a right.

The issue is use of public money by a religious organization, even if they did not discriminate.