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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 04:16 PM
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Prop 8 Counter Attack
Edited on Tue May-26-09 04:16 PM by FreeState
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OK, first of all.................NO VIOLENCE !!

a "victory with violence " is NOT A "VICTORY". and besides, there are so many more INTERESTINGLY CREATIVE (ie: LEGAL) methods available to us as AMERICANS... *snicker* ... ok, we fight FIRE with FIRE !!!



1) REPOST THIS using your email address. the homophobes are going to flag it and I can only LEGALLY post it ONCE. don't leave this page (you might not be able to get back), open another, and do it from THERE.


2) CALL THIS NUMBER:
(800) 368-1019 it's the OCR (office of civil rights)


3) TELL THEM YOU WANT TO FILE A "DISCRIMINATION COMPLAINT" AGAINST:
("I'm not "allowed" to get married because I don't have the same religion.. etc")

Ron Prentice, Chief Executive Officer
Dan Kirby, Director of Operations
Everett Rice, Legislative Coordinator
Becky Burgoyne, Research Analyst
Trudy K. Thomas, Event Coordinator

the OCR will ask for addresses and phone numbers.. so THEIR ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBERS:

So. California Office
P.O. Box 20012
Riverside, CA 92516
Ph: 951-354-8362
Fx: 951-353-8347

No. California Office
1107 9th Street, Box 24
Sacramento, CA 95814
Ph: 916-446-5131
Fx: 916-446-5744

or:
protectMarriage.com
915 L st, suite C-259
sacramento, ca 95814
916 446-2956


4) TELL YOUR FRIENDS
if the homophobes are too busy dealing with the complaints, they won't have as much time to stick their nose in other people's affairs. (maybe it's "fight krap with krap")

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people don't have to actually get married, just file a complaint that their right to get married has been violated..

and NO ONE is allowed to discriminate based on religion. "I'm not allowed to get married because I don't have the same religion ??" "your evidence comes from the bible ???" I dont' think so...


THERE'S NO LIMIT ON HOW MANY COMPLAINTS YOU CAN FILE
it's quick, easy, fun, and above all legal and I imagine, pretty effective if enuf people play too.. I just did a quick look-up, so please feel free to figure out who else is anti-american, and post their info so that other people can join the fun also.. you don't have to be gay, or live in Cal.. JUST PASS IT ON ! :)


how to file:
http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/discrimhowtofile.html
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 04:17 PM
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1. Violence is bad, but remember Vandalism =/= Violence
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 04:20 PM
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2. My biggest objection to prop 8 is that it is based on religious ideology
My religion doesn't discriminate. Therefore, the prop 8 people are imposing THEIR religious beliefs on me.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 04:47 PM
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6. Awesome post!
:thumbsup: My religion doesn't discriminate, either. :hug:
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:26 PM
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9. Agreed. This is the crux of the matter. It is legalized religious discrimination.
This should be at least in part a separation of church and state issue.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 04:22 PM
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3. Jam the system- every system, whatever system you have access to.
We should have a national mischief day-
whatever system you have access to- throw the switch, any switch.

Unless you work in the ICU of course. That wouldn't be nice.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 04:26 PM
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4. Finally - and
Civil Unions For All - the rights conveyed by marriage were not removed, only the word. How is California going to guarantee those rights to gay couples?

"Proposition 8 does not entirely repeal or abrogate the aspect of a same-sex couple’s state constitutional right of privacy and due process that was analyzed in the majority opinion in the Marriage Cases — that is, the constitutional right of same-sex couples to “choose one’s life partner and enter with that person into a committed, officially recognized, and protected family relationship that enjoys all of the constitutionally based incidents of marriage” (Marriage Cases, supra, 43 Cal.4th at p. 829). Nor does Proposition 8 fundamentally alter the meaning and substance of state constitutional equal protection principles as articulated in that opinion. Instead, the measure carves out a narrow and limited exception to these state constitutional rights, reserving the official designation of the term “marriage” for the union of opposite-sex couples as a matter of state constitutional law, but leaving undisturbed all of the other extremely significant substantive aspects of a same-sex couple’s state constitutional right to establish an officially recognized and protected family relationship and the guarantee of equal protection of the laws.
By clarifying this essential point, we by no means diminish or minimize the significance that the official designation of “marriage” holds for both the proponents and opponents of Proposition 8; indeed, the importance of the marriage designation was a vital factor in the majority opinion’s ultimate holding in the Marriage Cases, supra, 43 Cal.4th 757, 845-846, 855. Nonetheless, it is crucial that we accurately identify the actual effect of Proposition 8 on same-sex couples’ state constitutional rights, as those rights existed prior to adoption of the proposition, in order to be able to assess properly the constitutional challenges to the proposition advanced in the present proceeding. We emphasize only that among the various constitutional protections recognized in the Marriage Cases as 8 available to same-sex couples, it is only the designation of marriage — albeit significant — that has been removed by this initiative measure."
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 06:25 PM
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10. We should start by complaining to the local county offices...

why don't they provide for gay and lesbian unions on the their marriage license applications? If we maintain the same rights as were spelled out in the CA marriage ruling, then it is unconstitutional not to provide for them.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 04:35 PM
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5. recommend -- for 'jamming' the system. nt
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 04:49 PM
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7. Thank you for posting this!
It's very constructive and instructive. It's often hard not to get swept away by emotion, and I can appreciate people who can keep their heads while keeping up the fight. :hug:

:kick:
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:00 PM
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8. Stonewall. n/t
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