A tale of two threads

[sniffa]

There's currently two ongoing threads in GDP about the Warren selection.

One has multiple deleted messages and subthreads and can be read as hostile toward the GLBT reaction. The flipside thread (which was mostly well received) against this thread has received only half of the recommendations as the aforementioned thread.

I'd like to frame that (those 2 threads) on DU. It's similar to the competing gay vs. interracial marriage polls done recently.

[AntiFascist]

1. Are you talking about my flipside thread?

"Despite the best efforts of SOME DUers, yada yada..."

I could have put a lot more effort into replicating the original post, but I didn't want to draw too much attention to the division at DU. I really wish people could have taken my other Warren post more seriously:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4688251

DU really should be able to come together over the Waren controversy, especially where it relates to broader issues.

[sniffa]

2. Actually no

Did you post the right link btw? :shrug:

[AntiFascist]

4. The thread I'm talking about is currently No. 2 on the greatest list...

the thread I wish had received the same attention is the one I linked to.

[sniffa]

5. Ah

I was confused there. I already rec'ed the #2 one.

The other thread got me mulling it over during errand running on Sunday so when I got back I sat down and penned that.

[Starry Messenger]

3. I'm curious about that too.

Curious (or something that rhymes with that).

[sniffa]

6. spurious? slurious? blurious?

:shrug:

[Starry Messenger]

7. furious.

[sniffa]

8. I was just being coy

:D

[Starry Messenger]

9. You out-coyed me sir! Well played.

:D

Anyway, the phenomenon of the progress of those 2 threads is interesting. Do you think it an issue with timing?

[noamnety]

11. I think it's just a timing issue.

In another 20-30 years, the posts unequivocally supporting equal rights would probably fare better.

[Starry Messenger]

12. Yikes, I hope not!

20-30 years is way too long to wait. I'm hoping in a few decades we're all standing around saying "Wasn't it horrible when there were groups of citizens who were denied basic rights in the USA?"

[jonnyblitz]

10. most of the threads that are patronizing or antagonistic towards

the DU GLBT's get many "recommends". :(

[Starry Messenger]

13. It's like watching a horror movie.

I'm so sorry jonnyblitz.

[jonnyblitz]

16. i know i sound reductionist but I see it as more of a backlash

towards our incessant criticism of Obama for the Warren thing. To people who don't see our issues as a priority we are raining on their post-election parade. I believe this is a good part of the backlash though it seems a simplistic explanation. :hi:

[Starry Messenger]

20. That's probably true.

Well, at least the pre-emptive "Why I could care less about this issue..." threads seem to have trickled way down. Progress? Of a sort?

[racaulk]

14. I noticed that as well.

That's very...curious...isn't it?

[jonnyblitz]

17. eh, I am not all that surprised. it's what we get for ruining the

post-election victory afterglow.

[AlCzervik]

15. i saw one from a poster that thinks he's being persecuted---it's like his 400th

thread--"I'm not a homophobe!"

[sniffa]

22. There's a couple like that

but I think I know which one you're referring to.

:hi:

[AntiFascist]

18. The latest thread I find really offensive is the one...

about how we should be "thanking Obama for the Warren invocation", which goes into further detail about how brilliant he was at the Warren debate.

no matter how they try to frame it, there is no reason whatsoever to thank Obama for his performance at the Saddleback debate. This could very well be the main reason that Prop 8 succeeded, despite polling that indicated otherwise.

[noamnety]

19. Generically speaking,

I am not thrilled to see the argument that we should be thankful to abusive people or actions because it allows us to rise up against them.

[sniffa]

21. I can't see it

[Vanje]

23. I thought that one was a joke

I read on and on, until I realized with some shock, that there wasnt going to be a punchline, afterall.

[AntiFascist]

24. Hehehe....

here's another thread to kick, in case GD:P gets too out of hand.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8044247