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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:34 AM Original message |
Need some advice, insight regarding my 3rd grader... |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
1. Talk to the principal about switching to the calmest teacher available. I think your case |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. That would be wonderful... |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 12:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. I don't think you presented it as the teacher's fault, but, just an uncomfortable fit |
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naaman fletcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
2. A number of options.. |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
3. What if she wore ear plugs during tests and quizzes, so she didn't have to hear the teacher? |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I sense that there are general issues that... |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:59 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Probably best to move her to another class. And if she isn't already, to get her therapy. |
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nykym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
6. Dear Coffee Cat I know what you are |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 11:00 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Wow, what an amazing success story... |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
7. I would tell the teacher what you've stated here - that your |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
8. Be careful... and then be calm (and let her see it) |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 12:59 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. That's a myth; school districts do NOT profit from kids with disabilities |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. It isn't a myth |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 05:39 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. The federal govt funds all special Ed programs in all 50 states |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 09:19 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Did I SAY just "special ed"? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 09:37 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. Wow. Which part of "FEDERAL PROGRAM" do you not get? |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 09:40 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. The part where it's accurate. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 09:53 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. And states get the money from the feds |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:02 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. That's simply untrue. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:07 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Talk about a strawman! |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:13 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. Who said it? Why... you did, didn't you? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:25 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. Oh now you are adding "all" |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:37 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. Feel free to explain your disagreement then |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 08:22 AM Response to Reply #64 |
72. Good lord, you are dense |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 08:57 AM Response to Reply #72 |
78. The state does NOT "get it's money" from the feds... |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:08 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. No they don't. |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:14 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. You're making yourself look foolish. |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 09:38 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. Ok so where is this school district smartie? Where is your evidence? |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 09:36 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. And as we all know, the Federal Gov't has done a piss poor job at it as well. |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 09:13 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Your position is in error and I work in special ed. which is more than you can say. |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 09:27 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Once again... if you want to build straw men... fine. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 09:33 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Semantics |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 09:38 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. It is when you make up what I said |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 09:39 PM Original message |
So which states? Which studies? You put forth the assertion, where's your evidence? |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 09:41 PM Response to Original message |
34. How many will be enough for you to admit your error? |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 09:44 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. You stated "most states" receive "more" money. Sounds like a late night for you. Better have at it. |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 09:49 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Avoiding the question, eh? AND building another straw man? |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 09:55 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Waiting for your evidence darling. Cough it up. |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:00 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. I thought as much. |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:07 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. One state down and "more" to go. And you really should read your own articles more closely. |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:16 PM Response to Reply #49 |
58. Oh please. |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:24 PM Response to Reply #49 |
60. Nine more states for you. |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:41 PM Response to Reply #49 |
65. No reply "darling" ??? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 09:55 PM Response to Reply #30 |
41. LOL I posted your exact words! That's not making it up. |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:05 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. Sure it is... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:12 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. "more money" and "incentive" don't imply profit?? |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:20 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. That's correct. |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 09:35 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Once again, schools do not earn, make money or have any fiscal incentive re: special ed. kids |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 09:43 PM Response to Reply #26 |
36. That's nonsense. |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 09:46 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. My God, I don't know how I missed it. You clearly must work for the Dept. of Ed. |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 09:58 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. And then they must provide services in the district... |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:02 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. That's right. And IF a child is sent to a specialized program out of district, there is -0- money |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:28 PM Response to Reply #45 |
62. My district spent over a million dollars last year on kids sent to other programs |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:45 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. I agree. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:05 PM Response to Reply #36 |
47. "All that changes is the label and the amount of dollars" |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Yup. School districts just rolling in dough these days. |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:11 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. Again... you assume the child IS disabled. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:15 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Pure hyperbole with no links |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:54 PM Response to Reply #57 |
68. See posts 58, 60 and 65. n/t |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 06:57 AM Response to Reply #57 |
69. Lol! Game, Set, and Match proud2BlibKansas |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 08:11 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Fail. |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 08:50 AM Response to Reply #71 |
76. Lol... |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:45 PM Response to Reply #69 |
97. Catastrophic aid |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 11:45 PM Response to Reply #97 |
103. Thanks donco6 |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 02:15 AM Response to Reply #103 |
105. If you'd like an observation from someone who didn't "get into it with you" and has no motivation to |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 09:28 AM Response to Reply #105 |
106. +1 |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 09:13 AM Response to Reply #8 |
79. I agree with everything, except - |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 09:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
86. "They aren't "experts" who know more about your daughter than you do just because they're teachers" |
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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
11. I agree with most posters here. Begin with the teacher. If your daughter has no problems with math |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Thank you--- |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 10:03 AM Response to Reply #18 |
81. Bravo Mom! (Testing recommendation provided) |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 09:17 AM Response to Reply #11 |
80. I totally agree. For the teacher to even suggest this based on one class - |
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Sabriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
12. I advise independent testing, so you go in with backing of your own |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. That can be very expensive and not always covered by insurance |
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Sabriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 01:15 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. You're right; we paid for it out of pocket |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Great advice... |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
24. STOP. Now listen. And I will tell you what you will do. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 09:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. I'm wondering if she should ask for a 504 |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 09:43 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. Have to provide medical documentation that substantially interferes with her achievement. |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:49 PM Response to Reply #35 |
67. Moreover... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 08:30 AM Response to Reply #67 |
75. You can't have a 504 AND and IEP |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 08:53 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Did somebody say that you could? |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 11:39 PM Response to Reply #67 |
90. "mom is probably in a better position to know whether her daughter has a special need." |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 09:15 AM Response to Reply #90 |
91. I agree |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:18 PM Response to Reply #91 |
95. I have no opinion of Everyday Math. I've not used it before. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 08:28 AM Response to Reply #35 |
74. In my state, all testing is covered |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 10:06 PM Response to Reply #27 |
87. I'm reading through this and was just thinking the same thing. |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
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kaylynwright (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
63. switch classes |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
70. In 3rd grade, |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 08:25 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Actually the district can still test without parent approval |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 11:01 AM Response to Reply #73 |
83. My child isn't even disabled... |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Oh goodness mom! You may have just hit on the answer. |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 11:01 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. Here is a suggestion: |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:52 PM Response to Reply #83 |
98. Struggling with math does not mean special ed., IMO |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:36 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Is there anything that CoffeeCat can get online or order from EM? |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 03:42 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. I can check - she's 3rd grade? n/t |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. Yes. Third grade. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 04:52 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. I'm in Colorado. |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 12:15 AM Response to Reply #102 |
104. I think donco6 has accurately described many of the main advantages |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 06:07 PM Response to Reply #73 |
85. That reg. has been changed proud. Now its no longer possible even tho' it was used very, very rarely |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 09:27 AM Response to Reply #73 |
94. Good to know. |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 10:50 AM Response to Reply #70 |
82. Thanks for all of your suggestions/insight... |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 11:13 PM Response to Reply #82 |
89. In my experience, I'm not sure why this teacher presented special ed as the next step. |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 09:23 AM Response to Reply #89 |
92. Can I ask a question about educational advocates? |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:36 PM Response to Reply #92 |
96. It sounds like they are suggesting Resource (that is what we call it in California.) |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 09:26 AM Response to Reply #82 |
93. Every state and district |
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